| 151. You're going to praise it no matter what n/t |
| -Users force Dell to resurrect XP |
apnu |
Apr-20-07 11:43 AM |
#0 |
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Why do companies do stupid things like this? |
LisaM |
Apr-20-07 11:46 AM |
#1 |
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Effective Monoply |
Moochy |
Apr-20-07 12:01 PM |
#10 |
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Microsoft forces them to. |
baldguy |
Apr-20-07 12:45 PM |
#16 |
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"Classic Coke" |
KansDem |
Apr-23-07 09:42 AM |
#192 |
| -
Vista nightmare? |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 11:48 AM |
#2 |
| -
I meant its a nightmare for Micro$oft... |
apnu |
Apr-20-07 11:55 AM |
#6 |
| -
Vista is a humungous, bloated piece of software |
ryanmuegge |
Apr-20-07 03:43 PM |
#45 |
| -
I personally know a few users who have jumped to mac |
neohippie |
Apr-21-07 07:45 AM |
#108 |
| -
Macs are just intel boxes with a TCM chip plus OpenBSD. |
HypnoToad |
Apr-21-07 03:47 PM |
#124 |
| -
gobolinux has some "enhancements" |
SimpleTrend |
Apr-21-07 04:37 PM |
#128 |
| -
MacBook is $1000 and superb... |
candice |
Apr-21-07 07:38 PM |
#142 |
| -
As long as Apple has a version of MS Office |
Ignacio Upton |
Apr-21-07 05:41 PM |
#136 |
| -
neo-office is open office for the mac |
antifaschits |
Apr-22-07 12:05 PM |
#177 |
| -
Early adopters beware - for example |
pinkpops |
Apr-21-07 06:40 PM |
# |
| -
Early adopters beware - for example |
pinkpops |
Apr-21-07 06:40 PM |
#139 |
| -
Bought my first MAC over the weekend. |
EnviroBat |
Apr-23-07 12:16 PM |
#202 |
| -
i hate vista's licencing rule that lets them delete files off your |
samsingh |
Apr-20-07 05:29 PM |
#60 |
| -
Some licensing problems started with XP |
SimpleTrend |
Apr-21-07 01:04 AM |
#96 |
| -
Keep your hardware, and try Linux |
kdsusa |
Apr-23-07 12:37 PM |
#203 |
| -
Vista's not all new |
activevoter |
Apr-20-07 05:38 PM |
#62 |
| -
You're completely wrong about the Security and "reworked from the ground up" |
merwin |
Apr-20-07 06:19 PM |
#66 |
| -
I concur with that |
Pigwidgeon |
Apr-20-07 09:33 PM |
#75 |
| -
Have you checked out DABO |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:38 AM |
#89 |
| -
This looks good |
Pigwidgeon |
Apr-21-07 01:31 AM |
#98 |
| -
I had a feeling that dot net was going to flop |
nebenaube |
Apr-21-07 08:46 AM |
#112 |
| -
Seconded, but I will say this: |
HypnoToad |
Apr-21-07 04:03 PM |
#125 |
| -
I completely agree with your description. |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 04:50 PM |
#130 |
| -
So you explain why it crashes as "sensible caching"? |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 01:02 AM |
#158 |
| -
What does caching have to do with crashing? |
merwin |
Apr-22-07 02:12 AM |
#159 |
| -
Not really. It'll force Microsoft to expedite Vista service pack 1. BTW, |
HypnoToad |
Apr-21-07 04:11 PM |
#126 |
| -
Don't go to Vista if you don't HAVE to. |
kgfnally |
Apr-20-07 11:59 AM |
#7 |
| -
You really should try it before knocking it. |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 12:52 PM |
#18 |
| -
But you can't. |
Atman |
Apr-20-07 02:17 PM |
#33 |
| -
I guess we will just have to disagree then. |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 02:51 PM |
#37 |
| -
!!! |
ends_dont_justify |
Apr-20-07 05:13 PM |
#55 |
| -
LOL! |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 05:14 PM |
#58 |
| -
never liked sliced bread. goes stale too fast. |
antifaschits |
Apr-22-07 12:15 PM |
#179 |
| -
let's be honest |
northzax |
Apr-22-07 08:52 PM |
#180 |
| -
I have tried it |
neohippie |
Apr-20-07 02:52 PM |
#38 |
| -
I would add that no computer is idiot proof |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 02:54 PM |
#39 |
| -
while I admit that... |
neohippie |
Apr-21-07 07:42 AM |
#106 |
| -
I'll add: the blind praise of Micro$oft/Vi$ta on this and other boards |
kgfnally |
Apr-21-07 11:57 PM |
#152 |
| -
You're going to praise it no matter what n/t |
kgfnally |
Apr-21-07 11:49 PM |
#151 |
| -
I take issue with this... |
Concerned GA Voter |
Apr-20-07 04:26 PM |
#51 |
| -
Listen to this man. He's "been there, done that". |
Pigwidgeon |
Apr-20-07 09:36 PM |
#77 |
| -
heeeheheh, |
kgfnally |
Apr-21-07 11:58 PM |
#153 |
| -
I have a question... |
Solon |
Apr-20-07 11:08 PM |
#84 |
| -
The only advantage to Vista |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:42 AM |
#90 |
| -
LOL |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 12:03 AM |
#155 |
| -
If that happened, it would be considered anti-competitive... |
Solon |
Apr-22-07 11:41 AM |
#176 |
| -
I just tried to find the article... no luck. |
kgfnally |
Apr-23-07 09:17 AM |
#191 |
| -
Agreed, wholly, and utterly. |
HypnoToad |
Apr-21-07 04:14 PM |
#127 |
| -
Your always top in my book HypnoToad. |
William769 |
Apr-21-07 05:29 PM |
#132 |
| -
His criticisms do well against Mac Fanboys... |
Solon |
Apr-24-07 12:11 AM |
#205 |
| -
I have, that's the thing |
kgfnally |
Apr-21-07 11:41 PM |
#150 |
| -
You build them? How do you eliminate a whine? |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 12:54 PM |
#19 |
| -
You'll have to open the case up |
B3Nut |
Apr-20-07 01:30 PM |
#25 |
| -
You forgot one small bit of advice |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Apr-20-07 02:02 PM |
#29 |
| -
No, no. Hard drives have my picture in their post office. |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 02:15 PM |
#32 |
| -
Best thing you can do, is learn as much as you can. |
beevul |
Apr-20-07 10:58 PM |
#82 |
| -
Well, hard drives don't have fans... |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 12:37 AM |
#156 |
| -
too late to edit |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 03:35 AM |
#166 |
| -
It could be a fan, but most PCs have several fans, you need to figure out... |
Up2Late |
Apr-23-07 12:59 AM |
#187 |
| -
Question... |
beevul |
Apr-20-07 11:27 PM |
#85 |
| -
That would be a yes |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 12:51 AM |
#157 |
| -
I should add |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 03:59 AM |
#169 |
| -
I like Vista. |
MuseRider |
Apr-20-07 11:59 AM |
#8 |
| -
You should have gotten a Mac |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:46 AM |
#91 |
| -
Not in a million years. |
MuseRider |
Apr-21-07 07:43 AM |
#107 |
| -
I use Win98SE at home, too |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-20-07 11:59 AM |
#9 |
| -
8 GIG for vista home premium |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:49 AM |
#92 |
| -
How could you like 98 more than XP? |
Bleachers7 |
Apr-20-07 01:02 PM |
#20 |
| -
It's like the home I grew up in. |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 04:26 PM |
#50 |
| -
I went from 98se to xp about a year ago |
UpInArms |
Apr-20-07 04:33 PM |
#52 |
| -
You have got to be kidding. |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 10:52 PM |
#80 |
| -
here's the background: Vista's legal fine print raises red flags |
UpInArms |
Apr-21-07 04:54 AM |
#100 |
| -
I upgraded my machine from Win98SE to XP Pro a month ago |
Frank Cannon |
Apr-21-07 06:33 AM |
#105 |
| -
you should think again |
neohippie |
Apr-21-07 07:46 AM |
#109 |
| -
XP is "venerable?" |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-07 11:50 AM |
#3 |
| -
I caught that, too |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-20-07 11:54 AM |
#5 |
| -
This is good news. |
SharonRB |
Apr-20-07 11:52 AM |
#4 |
| -
Get her a MAC |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:52 AM |
#93 |
| -
Those MAC commercials are a hoot, too |
TOJ |
Apr-20-07 12:04 PM |
#11 |
| -
Those Mac commercials annoy the hell out of me |
BushOut06 |
Apr-20-07 02:06 PM |
#30 |
| -
Those Mac commercials are TRUE. |
Atman |
Apr-20-07 03:06 PM |
#40 |
| -
Can Macs get viruses? |
BushOut06 |
Apr-20-07 03:56 PM |
#47 |
| -
Actually, no. They can't. |
Atman |
Apr-20-07 04:13 PM |
#49 |
| -
Here's a whole page of MAC bugs |
deadmessengers |
Apr-20-07 09:11 PM |
#71 |
| -
Nope, it's not just that they haven't gone after Mac as much as PC |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:58 AM |
#94 |
| -
This page describes the Month Of Apple Bugs much better: |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 06:16 AM |
#103 |
| -
Wow, 31 of them in a month |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 03:23 PM |
#121 |
| -
How does crap get installed on your computer all the time with Vista? |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 04:42 PM |
#129 |
| -
M$ is constantly |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 09:21 PM |
#147 |
| -
Like what? I've been using Vista since it was early beta and haven't |
merwin |
Apr-22-07 02:16 AM |
#160 |
| -
And you know this for a fact? |
William769 |
Apr-21-07 05:35 PM |
#133 |
| -
First, Vista does what you are saying that only the Mac's do. |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 12:36 AM |
#88 |
| -
he's right |
neohippie |
Apr-21-07 07:55 AM |
#110 |
| -
You're a fucking moron. |
Exiled in America |
Apr-22-07 04:22 AM |
#171 |
| -
I don't alert on people who are just plain stupid. |
Atman |
Apr-22-07 10:15 AM |
#173 |
| -
I totally apologize. I don't know what got into me. |
Exiled in America |
Apr-23-07 09:00 AM |
#188 |
| -
Whoah! |
Red State Prisoner |
Apr-23-07 09:11 AM |
#190 |
| -
Macs could get viruses if people wrote them for Macs. |
Nabeshin |
Apr-20-07 07:36 PM |
#68 |
| -
Apple sends out free security updates...no yearly protection scheme needed... |
candice |
Apr-21-07 07:46 PM |
#144 |
| -
How about those that portray windows = business and mac = fun??? |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 12:34 AM |
#87 |
| -
True, there are more games out there for Windows, but |
LeftCoast |
Apr-21-07 05:44 AM |
#101 |
| -
There is no lack of DVD Authoring, Photo management, and audio editors |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 06:05 AM |
#102 |
| -
How true this is. |
TommyO |
Apr-21-07 06:28 AM |
#104 |
| -
And as long as Windows owns the game market they will own the home desktop market |
ToeBot |
Apr-21-07 09:32 PM |
#149 |
| -
It's the other way around... as long as they own the desktop, they own the game market. |
merwin |
Apr-22-07 02:21 AM |
#161 |
| -
I hate it when a friend tries to save money and goes with a Windows |
candice |
Apr-21-07 07:40 PM |
#143 |
| -
I haven't ever required a support call since starting to use Win 3.1 years and years ago |
kgfnally |
Apr-23-07 09:50 AM |
#193 |
| -
I've been putting off buying a laptop because I don't want Vista. |
Dr.Phool |
Apr-20-07 12:08 PM |
#12 |
| -
Dual boot |
mbergen |
Apr-20-07 12:14 PM |
#13 |
| -
yes.. |
frylock |
Apr-20-07 01:17 PM |
#22 |
| -
i just bought a new computer off ebay so i could get xp. |
ellenfl |
Apr-20-07 12:38 PM |
#14 |
| -
I got the second to last XP machine at Frys... |
snooper2 |
Apr-20-07 01:09 PM |
#21 |
| -
all of the computer stores and big box stores |
ellenfl |
Apr-20-07 08:26 PM |
#69 |
| -
I know someone who worked on Vista |
themartyred |
Apr-20-07 12:40 PM |
#15 |
| -
I have Vista and it is awesome. |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 12:48 PM |
#17 |
| -
I like it a lot as well. |
B3Nut |
Apr-20-07 01:26 PM |
#23 |
| -
My new computer has a hi-def monitor, and boy is it sweet! |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 01:48 PM |
#27 |
| -
Oooooooh. |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 02:20 PM |
#34 |
| -
export them to a file, then email 'em to yourself |
Moochy |
Apr-20-07 02:44 PM |
#36 |
| -
Tv tuners are fun! |
beevul |
Apr-20-07 10:42 PM |
#79 |
| -
Oooohhhh...been doing that for over a year with my Mac. |
Atman |
Apr-20-07 03:08 PM |
#41 |
| -
Good for you! |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 05:11 PM |
#54 |
| -
It's even funnier when it could be done in the previous Window$ version... |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 03:36 AM |
#167 |
| -
Yeah, it's kinda like when glassy-eyed Macintologists insist that $teve Job$ |
QC |
Apr-22-07 11:40 PM |
#186 |
| -
I thought it was Xerox that "invented" the GUI |
kgfnally |
Apr-23-07 09:51 AM |
#194 |
| -
Xerox did invent it, but |
QC |
Apr-23-07 10:33 AM |
#200 |
| -
Exactly, many Apple biggots think that Apple invented the windowing system that Apple |
VegasWolf |
Apr-23-07 10:39 AM |
#201 |
| -
How big is your high def? |
beevul |
Apr-20-07 10:27 PM |
#78 |
| -
21 inch flat screen. |
William769 |
Apr-21-07 05:41 PM |
#137 |
| -
Make CERTAIN it supports HDCP n/t |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 04:00 AM |
#170 |
| -
I was wondering about that... |
beevul |
Apr-22-07 05:46 AM |
#172 |
| -
You may want to check out DLP sets too |
kgfnally |
Apr-23-07 09:57 AM |
#196 |
| -
Norton is its own resource hog |
mtnester |
Apr-20-07 03:16 PM |
#42 |
| -
Don't bother with Norton |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 01:02 AM |
#95 |
| -
Yup, I swear by AVG Free |
B3Nut |
Apr-21-07 10:37 AM |
#113 |
| -
Me too. Norton sucks, had to remove it. nt |
bemildred |
Apr-21-07 10:44 AM |
#114 |
| -
AVG Free |
utopiansecretagent |
Apr-21-07 06:47 PM |
#140 |
| -
Just ordered a new notebook... |
triguy46 |
Apr-20-07 01:29 PM |
#24 |
| -
.. |
loindelrio |
Apr-20-07 01:43 PM |
#26 |
| -
chuckle. Wish I'd seen your post before it was cleansed. n/t |
krkaufman |
Apr-28-07 10:06 AM |
#206 |
| -
Vista is a freaking NIGHTMARE (and I'm a techie!) |
rcdean |
Apr-20-07 01:56 PM |
#28 |
| -
As a fellow developer |
Moochy |
Apr-20-07 02:44 PM |
#35 |
| -
It's amusing how techs and developers are pretty much across the board |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 03:42 AM |
#168 |
| -
Do you mind a techie question, recdean? |
DODI |
Apr-20-07 03:23 PM |
#43 |
| -
I think that would work. |
rcdean |
Apr-21-07 01:52 AM |
#99 |
| -
Caution on that last suggestion. |
rcdean |
Apr-21-07 08:36 AM |
#111 |
| -
dell usually has the utilities available by model and OS |
neohippie |
Apr-22-07 10:25 PM |
#183 |
| -
One of my biggest clients switched to Vista...and has been trouble ever since |
Atman |
Apr-20-07 02:13 PM |
#31 |
| -
That's great news, speaking as someone who recently invested in CS2 |
JaneQPublic |
Apr-20-07 03:30 PM |
#44 |
| -
Jane....wrong! CS2 does run on Vista. |
Jazzgirl |
Apr-20-07 04:43 PM |
#53 |
| -
I don't mean to snap at you, but that's the second time on this thread |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 02:21 AM |
#162 |
| -
Oh good: now I can buy a new PC when I need to. |
damntexdem |
Apr-20-07 03:44 PM |
#46 |
| -
Michael "Dell" uses Ubuntu on his personal machine not Microsoft |
IChing |
Apr-20-07 04:07 PM |
#48 |
| -
Dell will start offering Linux pre-installed, possibly Ubuntu |
Ignacio Upton |
Apr-21-07 05:38 PM |
#135 |
| -
My sister bought a laptop with Vista |
CRF450 |
Apr-20-07 05:13 PM |
#56 |
| -
I want DOS...!!! |
bleedingheart |
Apr-20-07 05:13 PM |
#57 |
| -
Psst. |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 05:17 PM |
#59 |
| -
but i want it all in command line mode...no fancy stuff for me... |
bleedingheart |
Apr-20-07 05:38 PM |
#61 |
| -
to open a DOS based window, use CMD |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 05:40 PM |
#63 |
| -
i know all of this...I am just messin around... |
bleedingheart |
Apr-20-07 05:43 PM |
#64 |
| -
I figured that, I was just going along for the ride |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 05:51 PM |
#65 |
| -
that's hot. |
SayWhatYo |
Apr-20-07 09:32 PM |
#74 |
| -
not in IT |
bleedingheart |
Apr-20-07 10:54 PM |
#81 |
| -
Oh, trains are cool... |
SayWhatYo |
Apr-20-07 11:57 PM |
#86 |
| -
Go linux... :D |
SayWhatYo |
Apr-20-07 09:30 PM |
#73 |
| -
Nahh, not any more... |
SayWhatYo |
Apr-20-07 09:29 PM |
#72 |
| -
My GF just bought a new HP laptop, |
policypunk |
Apr-20-07 06:27 PM |
#67 |
| -
So glad I bought a MacBook! |
supernova |
Apr-20-07 08:37 PM |
#70 |
| -
I've been in love with my 20" iMac Core Duo ever since I bought it |
Chovexani |
Apr-21-07 08:48 PM |
#146 |
| -
Keeping it on VMware for now... |
SayWhatYo |
Apr-20-07 09:34 PM |
#76 |
| -
Dells are pieces of shit, and that's just the hardware... |
Solon |
Apr-20-07 11:03 PM |
#83 |
| -
HOT GLUED the heatsink? |
B3Nut |
Apr-21-07 10:52 AM |
#115 |
| -
This was my little sister's computer... |
Solon |
Apr-21-07 11:51 AM |
#117 |
| -
Well...the heatsink does have to come off before |
B3Nut |
Apr-21-07 01:43 PM |
#119 |
| -
My experience has been with mostly AMD chips... |
Solon |
Apr-21-07 05:57 PM |
#138 |
| -
I use Arctic Silver |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 02:38 AM |
#163 |
| -
Almost sounds like an issue with overall airflow |
B3Nut |
Apr-23-07 10:12 AM |
#198 |
| -
Unfortunately, Dell is an extremely Red company |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 01:06 AM |
#97 |
| -
Bill Gates was a big Bush donor in 04! Apple has Al Gore on its BofD |
candice |
Apr-21-07 07:50 PM |
#145 |
| -
Not surprising |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 09:23 PM |
#148 |
| -
What are the chances |
StarryNite |
Apr-21-07 11:37 AM |
#116 |
| -
I just purchased a dual core Pentium Gateway machine with Vista. I am pleasantly |
VegasWolf |
Apr-21-07 12:09 PM |
#118 |
| -
An important conclusion from this thread: |
rcdean |
Apr-21-07 02:15 PM |
#120 |
| -
Addendum |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 03:33 PM |
#122 |
| -
Addendum 2: I use computers for my livelihood. I use Vista. I have extreme |
VegasWolf |
Apr-21-07 07:33 PM |
#141 |
| -
Do you have Vista 64-bit? |
rcdean |
Apr-22-07 12:03 AM |
#154 |
| -
I have XP 64-bit |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 02:49 AM |
#165 |
| -
Yep, my new dual core Pentium D chip works dandy, and without all of the |
VegasWolf |
Apr-22-07 12:11 PM |
#178 |
| -
You are correct, the machine is important. The reason for Vista is as I stated, |
VegasWolf |
Apr-22-07 11:31 AM |
#175 |
| -
And you're not using Unix to crunch those numbers because.....? n/t |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 02:43 AM |
#164 |
| -
Because Vista works fine and I do other things besides crunch numbers. I've |
VegasWolf |
Apr-22-07 11:28 AM |
#174 |
| -
. |
HypnoToad |
Apr-21-07 03:44 PM |
#123 |
| -
Great new laptop (with Turion64X2) + NVIDIA 256MB graphics |
Amonester |
Apr-21-07 04:51 PM |
#131 |
| -
Good for you! |
William769 |
Apr-21-07 05:37 PM |
#134 |
| -
Unless you need to do anything substantial with it n/t |
ProudDad |
Apr-22-07 09:14 PM |
#181 |
| -
Well, let's see |
ProudDad |
Apr-22-07 09:18 PM |
#182 |
| -
Never EVER upgrade to Vista! |
johnnyrocket |
Apr-22-07 10:58 PM |
#184 |
| -
Well, this thread has certainly proved one thing: |
QC |
Apr-22-07 11:38 PM |
#185 |
| -
It Only Gets Worse |
Red State Prisoner |
Apr-23-07 09:07 AM |
#189 |
| -
You have a link for that? MS always supports two back OSs. nt |
VegasWolf |
Apr-23-07 09:55 AM |
#195 |
| -
As far as I could find on Google, that's not *entirely* true |
kgfnally |
Apr-23-07 10:05 AM |
#197 |
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Given the implication of his statement, I would say that *none* of his assertion |
VegasWolf |
Apr-23-07 10:21 AM |
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Hasta la Vista... |
benEzra |
Apr-23-07 01:27 PM |
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