| 120. An important conclusion from this thread: |
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It's been very helpful to hear so many views on Vista.
My conclusion from it all, fwiw, is that your reception to Vista is likely to dependon whether you have major, critical applications to migrate from your old os.
If you use your pc for business, you can't tolerate major interruptions for unexpected learning curves and programs that are critical tools for production being suddenly rendered useless.
It's equally unpleasant to have to lay out all over again for programs you've been using for years and have lost the original install disks for. I have some that go back to '95 and have been upgraded many times over the years. But the upgrade disks don't work without the prior base installation.
On the other hand, if you use your pc mainly around the house, to write, browse and handle email, you will probably find the transition to Vista relatively painless, and the entirely new look enchanting.
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| -Users force Dell to resurrect XP |
apnu |
Apr-20-07 11:43 AM |
#0 |
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Why do companies do stupid things like this? |
LisaM |
Apr-20-07 11:46 AM |
#1 |
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Effective Monoply |
Moochy |
Apr-20-07 12:01 PM |
#10 |
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Microsoft forces them to. |
baldguy |
Apr-20-07 12:45 PM |
#16 |
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"Classic Coke" |
KansDem |
Apr-23-07 09:42 AM |
#192 |
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Vista nightmare? |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 11:48 AM |
#2 |
| -
I meant its a nightmare for Micro$oft... |
apnu |
Apr-20-07 11:55 AM |
#6 |
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Vista is a humungous, bloated piece of software |
ryanmuegge |
Apr-20-07 03:43 PM |
#45 |
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I personally know a few users who have jumped to mac |
neohippie |
Apr-21-07 07:45 AM |
#108 |
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Macs are just intel boxes with a TCM chip plus OpenBSD. |
HypnoToad |
Apr-21-07 03:47 PM |
#124 |
| -
gobolinux has some "enhancements" |
SimpleTrend |
Apr-21-07 04:37 PM |
#128 |
| -
MacBook is $1000 and superb... |
candice |
Apr-21-07 07:38 PM |
#142 |
| -
As long as Apple has a version of MS Office |
Ignacio Upton |
Apr-21-07 05:41 PM |
#136 |
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neo-office is open office for the mac |
antifaschits |
Apr-22-07 12:05 PM |
#177 |
| -
Early adopters beware - for example |
pinkpops |
Apr-21-07 06:40 PM |
# |
| -
Early adopters beware - for example |
pinkpops |
Apr-21-07 06:40 PM |
#139 |
| -
Bought my first MAC over the weekend. |
EnviroBat |
Apr-23-07 12:16 PM |
#202 |
| -
i hate vista's licencing rule that lets them delete files off your |
samsingh |
Apr-20-07 05:29 PM |
#60 |
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Some licensing problems started with XP |
SimpleTrend |
Apr-21-07 01:04 AM |
#96 |
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Keep your hardware, and try Linux |
kdsusa |
Apr-23-07 12:37 PM |
#203 |
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Vista's not all new |
activevoter |
Apr-20-07 05:38 PM |
#62 |
| -
You're completely wrong about the Security and "reworked from the ground up" |
merwin |
Apr-20-07 06:19 PM |
#66 |
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I concur with that |
Pigwidgeon |
Apr-20-07 09:33 PM |
#75 |
| -
Have you checked out DABO |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:38 AM |
#89 |
| -
This looks good |
Pigwidgeon |
Apr-21-07 01:31 AM |
#98 |
| -
I had a feeling that dot net was going to flop |
nebenaube |
Apr-21-07 08:46 AM |
#112 |
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Seconded, but I will say this: |
HypnoToad |
Apr-21-07 04:03 PM |
#125 |
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I completely agree with your description. |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 04:50 PM |
#130 |
| -
So you explain why it crashes as "sensible caching"? |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 01:02 AM |
#158 |
| -
What does caching have to do with crashing? |
merwin |
Apr-22-07 02:12 AM |
#159 |
| -
Not really. It'll force Microsoft to expedite Vista service pack 1. BTW, |
HypnoToad |
Apr-21-07 04:11 PM |
#126 |
| -
Don't go to Vista if you don't HAVE to. |
kgfnally |
Apr-20-07 11:59 AM |
#7 |
| -
You really should try it before knocking it. |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 12:52 PM |
#18 |
| -
But you can't. |
Atman |
Apr-20-07 02:17 PM |
#33 |
| -
I guess we will just have to disagree then. |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 02:51 PM |
#37 |
| -
!!! |
ends_dont_justify |
Apr-20-07 05:13 PM |
#55 |
| -
LOL! |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 05:14 PM |
#58 |
| -
never liked sliced bread. goes stale too fast. |
antifaschits |
Apr-22-07 12:15 PM |
#179 |
| -
let's be honest |
northzax |
Apr-22-07 08:52 PM |
#180 |
| -
I have tried it |
neohippie |
Apr-20-07 02:52 PM |
#38 |
| -
I would add that no computer is idiot proof |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 02:54 PM |
#39 |
| -
while I admit that... |
neohippie |
Apr-21-07 07:42 AM |
#106 |
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I'll add: the blind praise of Micro$oft/Vi$ta on this and other boards |
kgfnally |
Apr-21-07 11:57 PM |
#152 |
| -
You're going to praise it no matter what n/t |
kgfnally |
Apr-21-07 11:49 PM |
#151 |
| -
I take issue with this... |
Concerned GA Voter |
Apr-20-07 04:26 PM |
#51 |
| -
Listen to this man. He's "been there, done that". |
Pigwidgeon |
Apr-20-07 09:36 PM |
#77 |
| -
heeeheheh, |
kgfnally |
Apr-21-07 11:58 PM |
#153 |
| -
I have a question... |
Solon |
Apr-20-07 11:08 PM |
#84 |
| -
The only advantage to Vista |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:42 AM |
#90 |
| -
LOL |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 12:03 AM |
#155 |
| -
If that happened, it would be considered anti-competitive... |
Solon |
Apr-22-07 11:41 AM |
#176 |
| -
I just tried to find the article... no luck. |
kgfnally |
Apr-23-07 09:17 AM |
#191 |
| -
Agreed, wholly, and utterly. |
HypnoToad |
Apr-21-07 04:14 PM |
#127 |
| -
Your always top in my book HypnoToad. |
William769 |
Apr-21-07 05:29 PM |
#132 |
| -
His criticisms do well against Mac Fanboys... |
Solon |
Apr-24-07 12:11 AM |
#205 |
| -
I have, that's the thing |
kgfnally |
Apr-21-07 11:41 PM |
#150 |
| -
You build them? How do you eliminate a whine? |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 12:54 PM |
#19 |
| -
You'll have to open the case up |
B3Nut |
Apr-20-07 01:30 PM |
#25 |
| -
You forgot one small bit of advice |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Apr-20-07 02:02 PM |
#29 |
| -
No, no. Hard drives have my picture in their post office. |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 02:15 PM |
#32 |
| -
Best thing you can do, is learn as much as you can. |
beevul |
Apr-20-07 10:58 PM |
#82 |
| -
Well, hard drives don't have fans... |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 12:37 AM |
#156 |
| -
too late to edit |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 03:35 AM |
#166 |
| -
It could be a fan, but most PCs have several fans, you need to figure out... |
Up2Late |
Apr-23-07 12:59 AM |
#187 |
| -
Question... |
beevul |
Apr-20-07 11:27 PM |
#85 |
| -
That would be a yes |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 12:51 AM |
#157 |
| -
I should add |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 03:59 AM |
#169 |
| -
I like Vista. |
MuseRider |
Apr-20-07 11:59 AM |
#8 |
| -
You should have gotten a Mac |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:46 AM |
#91 |
| -
Not in a million years. |
MuseRider |
Apr-21-07 07:43 AM |
#107 |
| -
I use Win98SE at home, too |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-20-07 11:59 AM |
#9 |
| -
8 GIG for vista home premium |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:49 AM |
#92 |
| -
How could you like 98 more than XP? |
Bleachers7 |
Apr-20-07 01:02 PM |
#20 |
| -
It's like the home I grew up in. |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 04:26 PM |
#50 |
| -
I went from 98se to xp about a year ago |
UpInArms |
Apr-20-07 04:33 PM |
#52 |
| -
You have got to be kidding. |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 10:52 PM |
#80 |
| -
here's the background: Vista's legal fine print raises red flags |
UpInArms |
Apr-21-07 04:54 AM |
#100 |
| -
I upgraded my machine from Win98SE to XP Pro a month ago |
Frank Cannon |
Apr-21-07 06:33 AM |
#105 |
| -
you should think again |
neohippie |
Apr-21-07 07:46 AM |
#109 |
| -
XP is "venerable?" |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-07 11:50 AM |
#3 |
| -
I caught that, too |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-20-07 11:54 AM |
#5 |
| -
This is good news. |
SharonRB |
Apr-20-07 11:52 AM |
#4 |
| -
Get her a MAC |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:52 AM |
#93 |
| -
Those MAC commercials are a hoot, too |
TOJ |
Apr-20-07 12:04 PM |
#11 |
| -
Those Mac commercials annoy the hell out of me |
BushOut06 |
Apr-20-07 02:06 PM |
#30 |
| -
Those Mac commercials are TRUE. |
Atman |
Apr-20-07 03:06 PM |
#40 |
| -
Can Macs get viruses? |
BushOut06 |
Apr-20-07 03:56 PM |
#47 |
| -
Actually, no. They can't. |
Atman |
Apr-20-07 04:13 PM |
#49 |
| -
Here's a whole page of MAC bugs |
deadmessengers |
Apr-20-07 09:11 PM |
#71 |
| -
Nope, it's not just that they haven't gone after Mac as much as PC |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 12:58 AM |
#94 |
| -
This page describes the Month Of Apple Bugs much better: |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 06:16 AM |
#103 |
| -
Wow, 31 of them in a month |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 03:23 PM |
#121 |
| -
How does crap get installed on your computer all the time with Vista? |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 04:42 PM |
#129 |
| -
M$ is constantly |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 09:21 PM |
#147 |
| -
Like what? I've been using Vista since it was early beta and haven't |
merwin |
Apr-22-07 02:16 AM |
#160 |
| -
And you know this for a fact? |
William769 |
Apr-21-07 05:35 PM |
#133 |
| -
First, Vista does what you are saying that only the Mac's do. |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 12:36 AM |
#88 |
| -
he's right |
neohippie |
Apr-21-07 07:55 AM |
#110 |
| -
You're a fucking moron. |
Exiled in America |
Apr-22-07 04:22 AM |
#171 |
| -
I don't alert on people who are just plain stupid. |
Atman |
Apr-22-07 10:15 AM |
#173 |
| -
I totally apologize. I don't know what got into me. |
Exiled in America |
Apr-23-07 09:00 AM |
#188 |
| -
Whoah! |
Red State Prisoner |
Apr-23-07 09:11 AM |
#190 |
| -
Macs could get viruses if people wrote them for Macs. |
Nabeshin |
Apr-20-07 07:36 PM |
#68 |
| -
Apple sends out free security updates...no yearly protection scheme needed... |
candice |
Apr-21-07 07:46 PM |
#144 |
| -
How about those that portray windows = business and mac = fun??? |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 12:34 AM |
#87 |
| -
True, there are more games out there for Windows, but |
LeftCoast |
Apr-21-07 05:44 AM |
#101 |
| -
There is no lack of DVD Authoring, Photo management, and audio editors |
merwin |
Apr-21-07 06:05 AM |
#102 |
| -
How true this is. |
TommyO |
Apr-21-07 06:28 AM |
#104 |
| -
And as long as Windows owns the game market they will own the home desktop market |
ToeBot |
Apr-21-07 09:32 PM |
#149 |
| -
It's the other way around... as long as they own the desktop, they own the game market. |
merwin |
Apr-22-07 02:21 AM |
#161 |
| -
I hate it when a friend tries to save money and goes with a Windows |
candice |
Apr-21-07 07:40 PM |
#143 |
| -
I haven't ever required a support call since starting to use Win 3.1 years and years ago |
kgfnally |
Apr-23-07 09:50 AM |
#193 |
| -
I've been putting off buying a laptop because I don't want Vista. |
Dr.Phool |
Apr-20-07 12:08 PM |
#12 |
| -
Dual boot |
mbergen |
Apr-20-07 12:14 PM |
#13 |
| -
yes.. |
frylock |
Apr-20-07 01:17 PM |
#22 |
| -
i just bought a new computer off ebay so i could get xp. |
ellenfl |
Apr-20-07 12:38 PM |
#14 |
| -
I got the second to last XP machine at Frys... |
snooper2 |
Apr-20-07 01:09 PM |
#21 |
| -
all of the computer stores and big box stores |
ellenfl |
Apr-20-07 08:26 PM |
#69 |
| -
I know someone who worked on Vista |
themartyred |
Apr-20-07 12:40 PM |
#15 |
| -
I have Vista and it is awesome. |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 12:48 PM |
#17 |
| -
I like it a lot as well. |
B3Nut |
Apr-20-07 01:26 PM |
#23 |
| -
My new computer has a hi-def monitor, and boy is it sweet! |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 01:48 PM |
#27 |
| -
Oooooooh. |
aquart |
Apr-20-07 02:20 PM |
#34 |
| -
export them to a file, then email 'em to yourself |
Moochy |
Apr-20-07 02:44 PM |
#36 |
| -
Tv tuners are fun! |
beevul |
Apr-20-07 10:42 PM |
#79 |
| -
Oooohhhh...been doing that for over a year with my Mac. |
Atman |
Apr-20-07 03:08 PM |
#41 |
| -
Good for you! |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 05:11 PM |
#54 |
| -
It's even funnier when it could be done in the previous Window$ version... |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 03:36 AM |
#167 |
| -
Yeah, it's kinda like when glassy-eyed Macintologists insist that $teve Job$ |
QC |
Apr-22-07 11:40 PM |
#186 |
| -
I thought it was Xerox that "invented" the GUI |
kgfnally |
Apr-23-07 09:51 AM |
#194 |
| -
Xerox did invent it, but |
QC |
Apr-23-07 10:33 AM |
#200 |
| -
Exactly, many Apple biggots think that Apple invented the windowing system that Apple |
VegasWolf |
Apr-23-07 10:39 AM |
#201 |
| -
How big is your high def? |
beevul |
Apr-20-07 10:27 PM |
#78 |
| -
21 inch flat screen. |
William769 |
Apr-21-07 05:41 PM |
#137 |
| -
Make CERTAIN it supports HDCP n/t |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 04:00 AM |
#170 |
| -
I was wondering about that... |
beevul |
Apr-22-07 05:46 AM |
#172 |
| -
You may want to check out DLP sets too |
kgfnally |
Apr-23-07 09:57 AM |
#196 |
| -
Norton is its own resource hog |
mtnester |
Apr-20-07 03:16 PM |
#42 |
| -
Don't bother with Norton |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 01:02 AM |
#95 |
| -
Yup, I swear by AVG Free |
B3Nut |
Apr-21-07 10:37 AM |
#113 |
| -
Me too. Norton sucks, had to remove it. nt |
bemildred |
Apr-21-07 10:44 AM |
#114 |
| -
AVG Free |
utopiansecretagent |
Apr-21-07 06:47 PM |
#140 |
| -
Just ordered a new notebook... |
triguy46 |
Apr-20-07 01:29 PM |
#24 |
| -
.. |
loindelrio |
Apr-20-07 01:43 PM |
#26 |
| -
chuckle. Wish I'd seen your post before it was cleansed. n/t |
krkaufman |
Apr-28-07 10:06 AM |
#206 |
| -
Vista is a freaking NIGHTMARE (and I'm a techie!) |
rcdean |
Apr-20-07 01:56 PM |
#28 |
| -
As a fellow developer |
Moochy |
Apr-20-07 02:44 PM |
#35 |
| -
It's amusing how techs and developers are pretty much across the board |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 03:42 AM |
#168 |
| -
Do you mind a techie question, recdean? |
DODI |
Apr-20-07 03:23 PM |
#43 |
| -
I think that would work. |
rcdean |
Apr-21-07 01:52 AM |
#99 |
| -
Caution on that last suggestion. |
rcdean |
Apr-21-07 08:36 AM |
#111 |
| -
dell usually has the utilities available by model and OS |
neohippie |
Apr-22-07 10:25 PM |
#183 |
| -
One of my biggest clients switched to Vista...and has been trouble ever since |
Atman |
Apr-20-07 02:13 PM |
#31 |
| -
That's great news, speaking as someone who recently invested in CS2 |
JaneQPublic |
Apr-20-07 03:30 PM |
#44 |
| -
Jane....wrong! CS2 does run on Vista. |
Jazzgirl |
Apr-20-07 04:43 PM |
#53 |
| -
I don't mean to snap at you, but that's the second time on this thread |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 02:21 AM |
#162 |
| -
Oh good: now I can buy a new PC when I need to. |
damntexdem |
Apr-20-07 03:44 PM |
#46 |
| -
Michael "Dell" uses Ubuntu on his personal machine not Microsoft |
IChing |
Apr-20-07 04:07 PM |
#48 |
| -
Dell will start offering Linux pre-installed, possibly Ubuntu |
Ignacio Upton |
Apr-21-07 05:38 PM |
#135 |
| -
My sister bought a laptop with Vista |
CRF450 |
Apr-20-07 05:13 PM |
#56 |
| -
I want DOS...!!! |
bleedingheart |
Apr-20-07 05:13 PM |
#57 |
| -
Psst. |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 05:17 PM |
#59 |
| -
but i want it all in command line mode...no fancy stuff for me... |
bleedingheart |
Apr-20-07 05:38 PM |
#61 |
| -
to open a DOS based window, use CMD |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 05:40 PM |
#63 |
| -
i know all of this...I am just messin around... |
bleedingheart |
Apr-20-07 05:43 PM |
#64 |
| -
I figured that, I was just going along for the ride |
William769 |
Apr-20-07 05:51 PM |
#65 |
| -
that's hot. |
SayWhatYo |
Apr-20-07 09:32 PM |
#74 |
| -
not in IT |
bleedingheart |
Apr-20-07 10:54 PM |
#81 |
| -
Oh, trains are cool... |
SayWhatYo |
Apr-20-07 11:57 PM |
#86 |
| -
Go linux... :D |
SayWhatYo |
Apr-20-07 09:30 PM |
#73 |
| -
Nahh, not any more... |
SayWhatYo |
Apr-20-07 09:29 PM |
#72 |
| -
My GF just bought a new HP laptop, |
policypunk |
Apr-20-07 06:27 PM |
#67 |
| -
So glad I bought a MacBook! |
supernova |
Apr-20-07 08:37 PM |
#70 |
| -
I've been in love with my 20" iMac Core Duo ever since I bought it |
Chovexani |
Apr-21-07 08:48 PM |
#146 |
| -
Keeping it on VMware for now... |
SayWhatYo |
Apr-20-07 09:34 PM |
#76 |
| -
Dells are pieces of shit, and that's just the hardware... |
Solon |
Apr-20-07 11:03 PM |
#83 |
| -
HOT GLUED the heatsink? |
B3Nut |
Apr-21-07 10:52 AM |
#115 |
| -
This was my little sister's computer... |
Solon |
Apr-21-07 11:51 AM |
#117 |
| -
Well...the heatsink does have to come off before |
B3Nut |
Apr-21-07 01:43 PM |
#119 |
| -
My experience has been with mostly AMD chips... |
Solon |
Apr-21-07 05:57 PM |
#138 |
| -
I use Arctic Silver |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 02:38 AM |
#163 |
| -
Almost sounds like an issue with overall airflow |
B3Nut |
Apr-23-07 10:12 AM |
#198 |
| -
Unfortunately, Dell is an extremely Red company |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 01:06 AM |
#97 |
| -
Bill Gates was a big Bush donor in 04! Apple has Al Gore on its BofD |
candice |
Apr-21-07 07:50 PM |
#145 |
| -
Not surprising |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 09:23 PM |
#148 |
| -
What are the chances |
StarryNite |
Apr-21-07 11:37 AM |
#116 |
| -
I just purchased a dual core Pentium Gateway machine with Vista. I am pleasantly |
VegasWolf |
Apr-21-07 12:09 PM |
#118 |
| -
An important conclusion from this thread: |
rcdean |
Apr-21-07 02:15 PM |
#120 |
| -
Addendum |
ProudDad |
Apr-21-07 03:33 PM |
#122 |
| -
Addendum 2: I use computers for my livelihood. I use Vista. I have extreme |
VegasWolf |
Apr-21-07 07:33 PM |
#141 |
| -
Do you have Vista 64-bit? |
rcdean |
Apr-22-07 12:03 AM |
#154 |
| -
I have XP 64-bit |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 02:49 AM |
#165 |
| -
Yep, my new dual core Pentium D chip works dandy, and without all of the |
VegasWolf |
Apr-22-07 12:11 PM |
#178 |
| -
You are correct, the machine is important. The reason for Vista is as I stated, |
VegasWolf |
Apr-22-07 11:31 AM |
#175 |
| -
And you're not using Unix to crunch those numbers because.....? n/t |
kgfnally |
Apr-22-07 02:43 AM |
#164 |
| -
Because Vista works fine and I do other things besides crunch numbers. I've |
VegasWolf |
Apr-22-07 11:28 AM |
#174 |
| -
. |
HypnoToad |
Apr-21-07 03:44 PM |
#123 |
| -
Great new laptop (with Turion64X2) + NVIDIA 256MB graphics |
Amonester |
Apr-21-07 04:51 PM |
#131 |
| -
Good for you! |
William769 |
Apr-21-07 05:37 PM |
#134 |
| -
Unless you need to do anything substantial with it n/t |
ProudDad |
Apr-22-07 09:14 PM |
#181 |
| -
Well, let's see |
ProudDad |
Apr-22-07 09:18 PM |
#182 |
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Never EVER upgrade to Vista! |
johnnyrocket |
Apr-22-07 10:58 PM |
#184 |
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Well, this thread has certainly proved one thing: |
QC |
Apr-22-07 11:38 PM |
#185 |
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It Only Gets Worse |
Red State Prisoner |
Apr-23-07 09:07 AM |
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You have a link for that? MS always supports two back OSs. nt |
VegasWolf |
Apr-23-07 09:55 AM |
#195 |
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As far as I could find on Google, that's not *entirely* true |
kgfnally |
Apr-23-07 10:05 AM |
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Given the implication of his statement, I would say that *none* of his assertion |
VegasWolf |
Apr-23-07 10:21 AM |
#199 |
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Hasta la Vista... |
benEzra |
Apr-23-07 01:27 PM |
#204 |
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