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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:47 AM
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2. One can't approach "decision" via one factor at a time - if electric cars should hybrid
engine be fueled by E85 via algae, or should we only use E15 or no alcohol? And are we using diesel or not for that hybrid engine in 2020?
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  -Warning is sounded on ethanol use Rose Siding  Apr-18-07 07:40 AM   #0 
  - Annual food crops (which must be re-planted every year) are an inefficent source  mod mom   Apr-18-07 07:44 AM   #1 
  - One can't approach "decision" via one factor at a time - if electric cars should hybrid  papau   Apr-18-07 07:47 AM   #2 
  - Who sponsored the study?  DemReadingDU   Apr-18-07 07:52 AM   #3 
  - Not that I agree with the study, but...  Odin2005   Apr-18-07 07:55 AM   #4 
  - I agree, but...  SmokingJacket   Apr-18-07 08:19 AM   #8 
  - How do you feel about the attitude...  Pacifist Patriot   Apr-18-07 09:51 AM   #11 
  - Ethanol is no magic bullet. Smog is one of the known trade-offs.  Eugene   Apr-18-07 08:03 AM   #6 
     - big oil hates ethanol  razzleberry   Apr-18-07 08:22 AM   #9 
        - true, but ethanol simply maintains another inefficient, undemocratic status quo. Centralized energy  cryingshame   Apr-18-07 01:43 PM   #19 
           - Interestingly enough...  Chemical Bill   Apr-18-07 02:32 PM   #23 
           - lust for easy-petroleum-money, warps the politics of the world  razzleberry   Apr-18-07 03:36 PM   #24 
  - IIRC, Corn-based ethanol burns more energy to make than it provides.  meldroc   Apr-18-07 08:00 AM   #5 
  - sugar cane/beets won't grow in a lot of places corn will  frogcycle   Apr-18-07 08:17 AM   #7 
  - Interesting.  meldroc   Apr-18-07 12:24 PM   #15 
  - yes, a comprehensive strategy will include many methods/sources  frogcycle   Apr-18-07 09:29 PM   #26 
  - how about fuel from invasive plants? We've got tons of the stuff just in one lake in my town  wordpix   Apr-18-07 02:18 PM   #21 
  - Or yard waste.  trogdor   Apr-18-07 12:32 PM   #16 
  - That "fact" was made possible by big oil money.  Chemical Bill   Apr-18-07 02:13 PM   #20 
  - The air in Los Angeles now is so polluted now I don't know how anyone lives there  RedEarth   Apr-18-07 09:48 AM   #10 
  - Crops grown for he purpose of conversion to energy, ...  CRH   Apr-18-07 10:22 AM   #12 
  - wrong on the generalization; right on the corn  frogcycle   Apr-18-07 09:31 PM   #27 
  - WATER is also effected!  benld74   Apr-18-07 12:09 PM   #13 
  - It's the population.  Gregorian   Apr-18-07 12:23 PM   #14 
  - Can any one thing go back and not alter everything else?  NoMoreMyths   Apr-18-07 12:35 PM   #17 
     - Well, we are going to go back in a sense.  Gregorian   Apr-18-07 01:12 PM   #18 
  - We can almost eliminate ozone now.  Chemical Bill   Apr-18-07 02:28 PM   #22 
  - Totally off topic...but,  saddlesore   Apr-18-07 03:50 PM   #25 
  - One of my key issues is that we need a Ethanol plant  MayorCandidate08   Apr-19-07 07:28 AM   #28 
     - Please let me add....  MayorCandidate08   Apr-19-07 07:32 AM   #29 

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