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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 08:41 AM
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14. that doesn't matter
if your using the land which would otherwise be used to grow food is the main point I think.
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  -Castro criticizes U.S. biofuel policies Bacchus39  Mar-29-07 07:29 AM   #0 
  - K&R - this bears watching  BushOut06   Mar-29-07 07:32 AM   #1 
  - in Brazil its sugar cane  Bacchus39   Mar-29-07 07:49 AM   #4 
  - that doesn't matter  Pharaoh   Mar-29-07 08:41 AM   #14 
     - happens all the time  Bacchus39   Mar-29-07 09:14 AM   #15 
        - Chew tobacco? How novel. nt  bilgewaterbill   Mar-30-07 11:25 PM   #71 
  - It's not a lack of food  Marrah_G   Mar-29-07 11:36 AM   #23 
  - Once again, Castro embarasses the US by being right  semillama   Mar-29-07 07:34 AM   #2 
  - Actually you, and Castro, are both wrong  MadHound   Mar-30-07 05:53 AM   #46 
     - How was Mr Castro wrong?  Mika   Mar-30-07 07:03 AM   #53 
        - He was demonizing corn specifically,  MadHound   Mar-30-07 07:13 AM   #54 
           - Oh, I see. It was the "tone" of his op-ed.  Mika   Mar-30-07 07:23 AM   #57 
  - "He does not belong to MY occult cabal, so I'm not listening." - Commander AWOL  SpiralHawk   Mar-29-07 07:39 AM   #3 
  - is F.C. against all crop usage that is non-food?  razzleberry   Mar-29-07 07:50 AM   #5 
  - I think he is worried that crops will be exported to the US to satisfy  Bacchus39   Mar-29-07 08:03 AM   #8 
     - getting rid of tobacco planting would fix the food shortages  razzleberry   Mar-29-07 08:07 AM   #9 
     - good point!!  Bacchus39   Mar-29-07 08:13 AM   #10 
     - FC is no doubt aware that poor countries now export lots of food to US  wordpix   Mar-31-07 12:12 PM   #75 
  - Biofuels need not compete with food.  GOPBasher   Mar-29-07 07:55 AM   #6 
  - Algea seems the easiest to use - no real transport needed n/t  papau   Mar-29-07 08:00 AM   #7 
  - are non-food crops unethical?  razzleberry   Mar-29-07 08:21 AM   #12 
  - What about hemp?  twiceshy   Mar-29-07 08:30 AM   #13 
  - So if I replace 1000 acres of corn with 1000 acres of switchgrass  endarkenment   Mar-29-07 12:15 PM   #25 
  - Castro could replace his tobacco crop with food too  Bacchus39   Mar-29-07 12:56 PM   #29 
  - No reason to do so because Cuba is not short on food  rman   Mar-30-07 05:55 AM   #48 
     - well what's he complaining about then?  Bacchus39   Mar-30-07 08:29 AM   #60 
        - Unlike the US's H.O.S., he's intelligently reflecting his concern for poor peoples around the world.  Mika   Mar-30-07 09:17 AM   #63 
  - You don't replace it if you don't use the same land -  rman   Mar-30-07 05:54 AM   #47 
  - Apparently, you didnt' read my post. I specifically stated that switchgrass  GOPBasher   Mar-30-07 08:28 PM   #67 
  - Follow the money  ProudDad   Mar-29-07 07:19 PM   #42 
  - I can't seem to find the actual article.  gorbal   Mar-29-07 08:14 AM   #11 
  - Found a Prensa Latina article, still not entire article-  gorbal   Mar-29-07 10:09 AM   #16 
  - Food will always be available  formercia   Mar-29-07 10:11 AM   #17 
  - they don't have to use food crops - hemp is perfect  donsu   Mar-29-07 10:21 AM   #18 
  - they have to use land.  endarkenment   Mar-29-07 12:16 PM   #26 
     - Tell that to the "developers" who keep buying up great farm land  mycritters2   Mar-29-07 12:59 PM   #30 
     - Indeed, but even so planting houses is a minor problem.  endarkenment   Mar-29-07 01:11 PM   #32 
     - Yep, if you work in the city and live in the ex-urbs, expensive fuel to get to work  mycritters2   Mar-29-07 01:26 PM   #34 
     - "We need that farmland for food and fuel security!" Shout it whenever developers come your way  wordpix   Mar-31-07 12:18 PM   #76 
     - The thing is that hemp actually grows where other crops won't  MadHound   Mar-30-07 05:56 AM   #49 
        - yes, when I was young everything was about rotating crops, etc.  donsu   Mar-30-07 12:05 PM   #65 
           - Hemp is an amazing crop, I've read that it can go 20 seasons.  joshcryer   Mar-30-07 10:58 PM   #70 
  - U.S. ethanol promotion is economic warfare against Latin America.  hunter   Mar-29-07 10:34 AM   #19 
  - When did America become founded as a Western European sort of democracy?  DanWithAngel   Mar-29-07 05:21 PM   #38 
  - If it competed with food production, then why do we  Amused Musings   Mar-29-07 10:43 AM   #20 
  - subsidies keep US food prices low  Bacchus39   Mar-29-07 10:58 AM   # 
  - Woops, you are right-not  Amused Musings   Mar-29-07 11:06 AM   #22 
  - If there is a mass transition to ethanol  endarkenment   Mar-29-07 12:26 PM   #27 
     - I think circumstances will pass this issue by  Bacchus39   Mar-29-07 12:52 PM   #28 
        - Once again, it ain't the plant used, it is the land used.  endarkenment   Mar-29-07 01:08 PM   #31 
           - many things compete with food for land including your house  Bacchus39   Mar-29-07 01:15 PM   #33 
              - Right now it is not a problem.  endarkenment   Mar-29-07 01:37 PM   #35 
  - It's a good policy, nations should not be exporting their food.  joshcryer   Mar-29-07 11:54 PM   #45 
     - Cuba's only food crop is sugar cane?? WTF?  Mika   Mar-30-07 07:20 AM   #56 
        - Statist communist reading comprehension isn't very good is it?  joshcryer   Mar-30-07 10:34 PM   #68 
           - Hypothetical irrelevent.  Mika   Mar-31-07 06:20 PM   #78 
              - I support Cuba, just not cash crops.  joshcryer   Mar-31-07 07:35 PM   #80 
  - subsidies keep US food prices low  Bacchus39   Mar-29-07 10:58 AM   #21 
  - The grave destruction of Mexican farms began years ago, after CAFTA,  Judi Lynn   Mar-29-07 04:15 PM   #36 
     - talk about old news!!  Bacchus39   Mar-30-07 08:42 AM   #61 
        - It's easy to attempt to be flippant when you don't know what you're talking about.  Judi Lynn   Mar-30-07 11:06 AM   #64 
  - Whatever else you think about Fidel, he is right about this. nt.  endarkenment   Mar-29-07 12:13 PM   #24 
  - No, he's not, and neither are you. See post 46 above n/t  MadHound   Mar-30-07 05:59 AM   #50 
     - So Castro is right, since US bio fuel policy is not to use algae,  rman   Mar-30-07 06:03 AM   #52 
        - Actually US biofuel policy is involved with both ethanol and biodiesel  MadHound   Mar-30-07 07:15 AM   #55 
           - the issue is with the crops used, not with the kind of bio fuel  rman   Mar-30-07 08:13 AM   #59 
              - Seems to me he's against our exploitation of the third world.  Chemical Bill   Mar-30-07 10:54 PM   #69 
                 - Of course he is, and this is just one current example of it  rman   Mar-31-07 08:12 AM   #72 
  - castro is a complete and utter moron  DanWithAngel   Mar-29-07 05:15 PM   #37 
  - The problem is we could convert ALL our food to fuel...  hunter   Mar-29-07 06:22 PM   #40 
  - About half the global population is suffering from malnutrition.  rman   Mar-30-07 05:59 AM   #51 
  - Combustible comestibles?  Qutzupalotl   Mar-29-07 06:18 PM   #39 
  - No wonder ADM and Cargil hate Fidel  ProudDad   Mar-29-07 07:17 PM   #41 
  - Interestingly, ADM and Cargil are prime Big Ag forces in the 'end-the-Cuba-sanctions' efforts.  Mika   Mar-30-07 07:28 AM   #58 
  - Tough titty  Pavulon   Mar-29-07 10:06 PM   #43 
  - agreed  Bacchus39   Mar-30-07 08:43 AM   #62 
  - Fidel is right....  unkachuck   Mar-29-07 10:31 PM   #44 
  - ActionAid: US/Brazil Biofuel Plans May Destroy Livelihoods, Promote Food Shortages  Mika   Mar-30-07 06:34 PM   #66 
  - and your thoughts on oil??  Bacchus39   Mar-31-07 12:11 PM   #74 
     - Better to sell oil than the food hungry people could eat.  Mika   Mar-31-07 06:24 PM   #79 
  - he makes some good points---warm, sunny locales should be going solar, anyway  wordpix   Mar-31-07 12:10 PM   #73 
  - Ok, this is one issue where we can't have our cake and eat it too...  ALiberalSailor   Mar-31-07 04:36 PM   #77 

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