Reply #93: That's well put -- that's the sense I'm getting from the people I know, too.

[AliceWonderland]

My partner is involved in the state Democratic party, and gives his energy there. He's a yellow dog Dem all the way -- though sometimes, he jokes that a nice yellow lab would actually be a refreshing change.

His crowd sees HRC's run as all about the money. They have their favourite candidates, they will work hard for them -- but, there's no excitement about HRC and the mega-$$$ war chest, and its relation to entrenched economic/political power. They'll vote for whomever the party puts forward, but excitement about Hillary... not so much. He's got a meeting tonight -- I'll ask him how folks are feeling.

All purely anecdotal observations, of course, and I live in a pretty progressive town where a lot of folks admire Kucinich. I imagine it's a mixed bag in different parts of the country. But, based on anecdotal evidence, you're seeing what I'm seeing.