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80. Man was never horned until he fought with God- Danial Berrigan
And here we are in post revolution america knowing what Gil Scott heron said was true the revolution was not televised. I know this is true cause I was watching the stream of images like Dorthy watched Kansas when the tornadoe picked up the world and spun it hard- hard enough to make up look down. And now we are here in the plan for the new American Century although it doesn't look new but suspiciously Orwellian and it reminds me of another time I tried to stop iron bombs from a falling sky much bluer than this one so grey it seems four horsemen might burst galloping in apocalyptic condemnation of my lack of biblic fear of the demons of auto-geddon. Did I say autogeddon instead of armageddon- a slip of the freudian appendage to be sure but just maybe this is about the oil. Still i carry each murdered soul in iraq as I once did with the Vietmanese people. And the Mary kay cosmetic girls oooh and aaaah about how handsome the secret service men are and pay tribute to the King with pink hankie not as in code pink but a pulsating pastle fictionous pink which consumes other colors other races and other ways of life and things are spinning so fast that it is hard to know who is speaking from behind the curtain cause they know about that too and are way ahead of the minds ability to absorb leaving me only with my heart- to stand on- to offer in this darkness- the will to be ordinary in this mockery of life I hold up my hands not in surrender but to show they are free of blood.
Mitakuye oyasin
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  -NPR - Army officials confirm Uday and Qusay dead bill  Jul-22-03 12:01 PM   #0 
  - Good, I hope their father is not far behind.  demdave   Jul-22-03 12:02 PM   #1 
  - I second that....  sirshack   Jul-22-03 12:04 PM   #3 
  - The 12 year old kid they killed too? n/t  NNN0LHI   Jul-22-03 12:07 PM   #5 
  - Unfortunate casualty of war.  demdave   Jul-22-03 12:14 PM   # 
     - Bush's fault  Skittles   Jul-22-03 12:18 PM   #16 
     - While I dont agree with the war, I doubt it was "Illegal"  Sirius_on   Jul-22-03 10:08 PM   #108 
     - You should really join us on some of the US casualty threads  markses   Jul-22-03 12:19 PM   #18 
     - there is only one person to blame here...  leftchick   Jul-22-03 12:22 PM   #23 
     - Technically he is a deserter  LiberalFighter   Jul-22-03 10:19 PM   #110 
     - What war? It was an illegal invasion of another sovereign nation.  NNN0LHI   Jul-22-03 12:26 PM   #26 
     - If I am a fugitive on the run and I engage in a shootout with police  demdave   Jul-22-03 12:45 PM   #33 
     - sad and pathetic - an illegal invasion has morphed in your mind  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 01:05 PM   #37 
     - Perhaps you can keep the threads straight  demdave   Jul-22-03 01:13 PM   #41 
        - poor dave, when someone disagrees, they haven't read  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 01:19 PM   #47 
     - and what if gunmen  study_war_no_more   Jul-22-03 01:24 PM   #51 
     - Then it's OK with you if the Drunken Bush Twins go down when Papa  corarose   Jul-22-03 01:42 PM   #64 
        - Sure...just as soon as we have some evidence...  Set   Jul-22-03 11:49 PM   #120 
           - Yes. I can and I feel sorry for the Drunken Twins  corarose   Jul-23-03 09:01 AM   #127 
     - Try thinking of it this way...  slackmaster   Jul-22-03 01:26 PM   #54 
     - No one has been charged with a crime yet.  TheStranger   Jul-22-03 01:23 PM   #49 
     - isn't everyone SOMEONE's son?  northzax   Jul-22-03 01:29 PM   #56 
  - Yeah  lazarus   Jul-22-03 12:08 PM   #6 
  - we should have a national celebration  study_war_no_more   Jul-22-03 01:19 PM   #46 
     - Not murdered  Muddleoftheroad   Jul-22-03 02:05 PM   #70 
     - It was murder. Firefight means we did it with guns.  aquart   Jul-22-03 02:13 PM   #71 
        - War  Muddleoftheroad   Jul-22-03 10:34 PM   #112 
     - Should we have surrounded them?  Barry_Goldwater   Jul-22-03 04:15 PM   #87 
        - There were supposedly a total of SIX PEOPLE vs. an entire Army.  stickdog   Jul-22-03 10:50 PM   #116 
  - Late Breaking News...  random   Jul-22-03 12:04 PM   #2 
  - That's cute  demdave   Jul-22-03 12:05 PM   #4 
     - Nobody ever heard of Uday and Qusay until * wanted to get his war on...  random   Jul-22-03 12:28 PM   #27 
        - I you didn't know who his sons were until recently  demdave   Jul-22-03 01:11 PM   #39 
        - I heard of them before  Sirius_on   Jul-22-03 10:10 PM   #109 
  - How do we know? Cause they say so?  democrat in Tallahassee   Jul-22-03 12:09 PM   #7 
  - Actually, at this point  htuttle   Jul-22-03 12:10 PM   #8 
     - NPR: WMDs Found  WorstPresidentEver   Jul-22-03 12:29 PM   #29 
  - Yeah, and Chemical Ali may be dead!  demnan   Jul-22-03 12:10 PM   #9 
  - Assassination?  carolinayellowdog   Jul-22-03 12:10 PM   #10 
  - the US Army has adopted the Enron-Balance-Sheet-Strategy...  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 12:11 PM   #11 
  - Since we all know the insurgency has nothing to do with Saddam  markses   Jul-22-03 12:12 PM   #12 
  - Murdering the families of heads of state is a great precedence to set  Generic Other   Jul-22-03 12:14 PM   #13 
  - To the credit of the 101st Airborne  markses   Jul-22-03 12:17 PM   #14 
  - sure...and they raided a hospital to "rescue" Pvt. Lynch...  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 12:39 PM   #32 
  - sniveling about murder of foriegn nationals does no good  study_war_no_more   Jul-22-03 01:31 PM   #57 
  - Nice of you to tell us all that needs to be said.  aquart   Jul-22-03 02:20 PM   #73 
  - Do any of the Kurdish residents of the town confirm this?  stickdog   Jul-23-03 10:05 AM   #128 
  - I'll do a google. If I can find the address, you can send  dwillison   Jul-22-03 12:19 PM   #19 
  - LOL  markses   Jul-22-03 12:21 PM   #21 
  - "frown on any jerk that calls our military murderers"...think MY LAI  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 12:37 PM   #31 
  - They were murderers after a court martial convicted and  dwillison   Jul-22-03 01:06 PM   #38 
     - actually, they were "called murderers" when they were accused...  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 01:17 PM   #44 
        - No US citizen is guilty of a crime until convicted. It's called  dwillison   Jul-22-03 01:22 PM   #48 
           - Acheive=achieve  dwillison   Jul-22-03 01:23 PM   #50 
           - and the difference between "called" and "accused" is what???  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 01:26 PM   #53 
           - If you can't differentiate between a convicted murderer and an accused  dwillison   Jul-22-03 01:31 PM   #58 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-22-03 01:34 PM   #59 
              - So you have no problem with this statement:  dwillison   Jul-22-03 01:41 PM   #63 
                 - you give no context for the statement...and I suspect that you are  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 01:47 PM   #66 
              - The Difference is Minor  atreides1   Jul-22-03 03:50 PM   #83 
              - never mind...  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 05:58 PM   #90 
              - I clearly made that distinction, pity you didn't read before you replied  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 06:08 PM   #93 
           - The victims cried, "murderer!"  sal   Jul-22-03 09:17 PM   #104 
           - A murderer is still a murderer without being convicted  LiberalFighter   Jul-22-03 10:41 PM   #113 
  - I Have a Question  atreides1   Jul-22-03 01:25 PM   # 
  - Good thing the Bush twins don't like travel any more than Dad.  aquart   Jul-22-03 01:13 PM   #42 
  - Hmmm.... if China. North Korea.. France.. Afghanistan  LiberalFighter   Jul-22-03 10:33 PM   #111 
  - Wire services are Not reporting the death of the sons - yet.  papau   Jul-22-03 12:18 PM   #15 
  - Seems odd  Maple   Jul-22-03 12:18 PM   #17 
  - they found 4 charred bodies..this is too soon to be accurate.  Gin   Jul-22-03 12:20 PM   #20 
  - Agreed.  berry   Jul-22-03 02:50 PM   #79 
     - Charred?  LiberalFighter   Jul-22-03 10:45 PM   #114 
  - yes, it's a really dumb place to hide  qandnotq   Jul-22-03 12:23 PM   #25 
     - No...  LeftPeopleFinishFirst   Jul-22-03 12:28 PM   #28 
  - That doesn't make sense.  LeftPeopleFinishFirst   Jul-22-03 12:21 PM   #22 
  - It's good to know  yella_dawg   Jul-22-03 12:22 PM   #24 
  - bush will get a short term bounce from this...  expatriot   Jul-22-03 12:30 PM   #30 
  - Repukes are Quite Efficient at Killing Children  dubyadubya3   Jul-22-03 12:51 PM   #34 
  - I'm glad they're dead.  SyracuseDemocrat   Jul-22-03 12:55 PM   #35 
  - Is America now safer because they're dead?  NewYorkerfromMass   Jul-22-03 01:13 PM   #43 
  - This feminist...  Hell Hath No Fury   Jul-22-03 01:28 PM   #55 
  - Hear hear  AliceWonderland   Jul-22-03 06:35 PM   #98 
     - Isn't it interesting that the Republicans...  LiberalFighter   Jul-22-03 10:52 PM   #117 
  - because he is an Iraqian rapist  study_war_no_more   Jul-22-03 01:34 PM   #60 
  - I don't believe ANY of the US propaganda about these guys  Tinoire   Jul-22-03 01:54 PM   #68 
  - I would agree....  DeathvadeR   Jul-22-03 06:25 PM   #96 
  - Clinton thought that they were bad people....  Set   Jul-22-03 11:55 PM   #121 
  - Guess we're just feminazis after all.  aquart   Jul-22-03 02:25 PM   #75 
  - It's too bad all the "sick" people were eliminated...  LiberalFighter   Jul-22-03 10:48 PM   #115 
  - Are you glad that tall guy in Afghanistan is dead?  Sick of Bullshit   Jul-22-03 11:33 PM   #119 
  - As opposed to Bin-Laden I thought the rewards fo Saddam  fizzana   Jul-22-03 01:01 PM   # 
  - As opposed to Bin-Laden I thought the rewards fo Saddam  fizzana   Jul-22-03 01:01 PM   #36 
  - Great  Corgigal   Jul-22-03 01:12 PM   #40 
  - If true, we just turned two despicable men...  FubarFly   Jul-22-03 01:18 PM   #45 
  - With the patriot act and Johnny k. they would never get a trail anyway  nolabels   Jul-22-03 01:25 PM   #52 
  - Jihad? who said anything about a Jihad?  study_war_no_more   Jul-22-03 01:36 PM   #61 
  - Martyrs indeed...  lightbulb   Jul-22-03 02:16 PM   #72 
  - Man was never horned until he fought with God- Danial Berrigan  study_war_no_more   Jul-22-03 02:50 PM   #80 
  - I would agree.....  DeathvadeR   Jul-22-03 06:05 PM   #92 
     - Doubtful....  Set   Jul-22-03 11:59 PM   #122 
  - FubarFly...I don't think arrest was an option  ewagner   Jul-22-03 02:59 PM   #81 
     - Exactly...  FubarFly   Jul-22-03 06:35 PM   #99 
  - God Bless America...  Stanchetalarooni   Jul-22-03 01:37 PM   #62 
  - Hurrah Qusar and Udder are dead....  Uzybone   Jul-22-03 01:43 PM   #65 
  - This will knock the lies off the front page, eh?  Catshrink   Jul-22-03 01:51 PM   #67 
  - Ding, ding, ding!!!  maryallen   Jul-22-03 09:19 PM   #105 
  - Hooray! They killed somebody!!  casual_observer   Jul-22-03 01:57 PM   #69 
  - Just in the nick of time...........again.  haymaker   Jul-22-03 02:23 PM   #74 
  - CNN  indigo32   Jul-22-03 02:26 PM   #76 
  - Time to say a war prayer  Rex   Jul-22-03 02:39 PM   #77 
  - So what?  teryang   Jul-22-03 02:43 PM   #78 
  - The US has no leg to stand on when it comes to unilaterally  Emillereid   Jul-22-03 03:22 PM   #82 
  - Targeted assasinations  muchacho   Jul-22-03 04:09 PM   #84 
  - How is Saddam taking this news?  Barry_Goldwater   Jul-22-03 04:10 PM   #85 
  - How Many Times..  1984ever   Jul-22-03 04:11 PM   #86 
  - DISPLAY THE BODIES  grasswire   Jul-22-03 04:16 PM   #88 
     - I doubt they'll display them publicly...  Set   Jul-23-03 12:01 AM   #123 
  - I celebrate the death of these animals  Herschel   Jul-22-03 04:25 PM   #89 
  - it seems that you suffer a poverty of principle...  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 06:01 PM   #91 
     - Please explain yourself  Herschel   Jul-22-03 08:46 PM   #102 
  - How'd they know?  agincourt   Jul-22-03 06:12 PM   #94 
  - BBC Link - Iraqis are "celebrating" the "death" of Saddam's sons+grandson  Pert_UK   Jul-22-03 06:14 PM   #95 
  - Reading some of the posts here  NickB79   Jul-22-03 06:32 PM   #97 
  - some people, here and elsewhere, believe in going about things  I AM SPARTACUS   Jul-22-03 06:46 PM   #100 
  - Please tell us simply  Herschel   Jul-22-03 08:49 PM   #103 
  - Can you imagine their value if they had been captured alive?  FubarFly   Jul-22-03 07:03 PM   #101 
     - Is that the sound of crickets fubarfly?  babzilla   Jul-22-03 09:44 PM   #106 
     - Their real value...  LiberalFighter   Jul-22-03 10:58 PM   #118 
  - Is this one of those Bush killings where they turn up alive again three  leesa   Jul-22-03 09:55 PM   #107 
  - we can only hope.  study_war_no_more   Jul-23-03 01:24 AM   #124 
  - I'm frustrated.  philodox   Jul-23-03 01:36 AM   #125 
     - Exactly  Robb   Jul-23-03 07:23 AM   #126 

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