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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #139
140. A-bombs are "tools" too
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  -D.C. Circuit panel holds that the District of Columbia's gun control laws violates individual rights AngryAmish  Mar-09-07 11:32 AM   #0 
  - As if the gun ban worked in DC anyway  Mike Daniels   Mar-09-07 11:37 AM   #1 
  - True  KevinJ   Mar-09-07 12:42 PM   #6 
     - Wait a minute  virginia mountainman   Mar-09-07 12:52 PM   #7 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-09-07 01:03 PM   #8 
  - About time  Solo_in_MD   Mar-09-07 11:50 AM   #2 
  - Good  bluestateguy   Mar-09-07 12:20 PM   #3 
  - They have always had the right to defend themselves  krispos42   Mar-11-07 12:48 AM   #143 
     - That's comforting given that the DC police are pretty imcompetent  Mike Daniels   Mar-12-07 07:49 AM   #211 
  - Another good precedent that reaffirms that "the people" are individuals  Squatch   Mar-09-07 12:29 PM   #4 
  - Finally! I was wondering when honest citizens could  winter999   Mar-09-07 12:30 PM   #5 
  - One small correction to the OP  derby378   Mar-09-07 02:40 PM   #9 
  - Potentially a huge decision. The article you link does mention  NoGOPZone   Mar-09-07 02:49 PM   #10 
  - en banc panals are quite rare  AngryAmish   Mar-10-07 08:29 AM   #69 
  - "If I didn't have this gun  Bukowski Fan   Mar-09-07 03:24 PM   #11 
  - "If I didn't have this gun  friendly_iconoclast   Mar-09-07 10:44 PM   #25 
  - Appeals Court Guts D.C. Gun Ban (Washington Post)  davepc   Mar-09-07 03:52 PM   #12 
  - Sweet!  meldroc   Mar-09-07 03:52 PM   #13 
  - Yes!  brokensymmetry   Mar-09-07 03:52 PM   #16 
  - AH-gree  torrentprime   Mar-15-07 12:17 PM   #264 
  - this was posted already.  napi21   Mar-09-07 03:52 PM   #14 
  - This will be good  NickB79   Mar-09-07 03:52 PM   #15 
  - Great news!  SlipperySlope   Mar-09-07 03:52 PM   #17 
  - That's right!  KevinJ   Mar-09-07 04:35 PM   #18 
  - Oh noes, now DC's gonna have guns everywhere!  Lilith Velkor   Mar-09-07 10:51 PM   #26 
  - Brady Campaign plays the "activist judges" card...  davepc   Mar-09-07 05:07 PM   #19 
  - Refresh my memory...where have I heard that term before?  Squatch   Mar-09-07 05:15 PM   #20 
  - Activist judges n/t  DemKR   Mar-09-07 06:02 PM   #21 
  - Owning a handgun isn't the problem; it's who owns the handgun  brentspeak   Mar-09-07 06:46 PM   #22 
  - Wingnut judges:  struggle4progress   Mar-09-07 07:26 PM   #23 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 08:34 PM   #126 
     - ...  Speaker   Mar-11-07 06:24 AM   #152 
  - a victory for the second amendment  mark414   Mar-09-07 08:29 PM   #24 
  - Major ruling against D.C. handgun ban  scavenger   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #27 
  - nt  onehandle   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #28 
  - sorry  scavenger   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #29 
  - It's still a good ruling, though!  piedmont   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #30 
     - It's bad thing if you support human life  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #31 
        - approx. 180,000,000 unarmed civillians were killed by their own governments (Germany, China, USSR)  piedmont   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #35 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #37 
        - BULLSHIT  ProudDad   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #51 
           - Uh, you just agreed with me on every point, right?  piedmont   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #54 
              - Nope  ProudDad   Mar-11-07 08:45 PM   #188 
                 - It's not the guns, it's the desperation in the people who use them to kill. nt  piedmont   Mar-11-07 10:52 PM   #203 
                    - No matter how desperate they are, they're generally less powerful w/o a gun  billbuckhead   Mar-12-07 09:37 PM   #227 
                       - Assault Rifle is newspeak nazi word, infantry  Pavulon   Mar-12-07 10:23 PM   #229 
                          - Actually, "assault weapon" is the term the gun-o-phobes invented for certain *scary* semi autos  piedmont   Mar-12-07 11:04 PM   #232 
                             - Actually Hitler invented the term  billbuckhead   Mar-13-07 07:51 PM   #238 
                                - Then it must be EEEEEEEEVIL!!!!!!11111  piedmont   Mar-13-07 10:02 PM   #240 
                                - So a rifle is not a weapon?  billbuckhead   Mar-14-07 12:42 AM   #241 
                                   - The terms "assault rifle" and "assault weapon" describe two different sets of firearms.  piedmont   Mar-14-07 03:22 AM   #248 
                                      - Semantics semantics semantics from gun worshipping sophists  billbuckhead   Mar-14-07 09:39 AM   #252 
                                         - A rifle is a weapon. A weapon is not necessarily a rifle  krispos42   Mar-14-07 12:02 PM   #254 
                                            - An assault rifle is a weapon, 2nd amendment weapons are firearms  billbuckhead   Mar-14-07 08:20 PM   #257 
                                            - Okay, mom! :-)  krispos42   Mar-15-07 11:29 AM   #262 
                                            - If one carries an assault-style rifle,  slackmaster   Mar-15-07 11:31 AM   #263 
                                - "Storm Rifle". It is an accurate term, so I can't fault them for using it  krispos42   Mar-14-07 02:33 PM   #255 
        - DC Homicide rate  Hiram Abiff   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #53 
        - Any links to prove that assertion? I don't believe it  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 09:20 PM   #131 
        - D.C.homicide  Hiram Abiff   Mar-11-07 10:38 PM   #201 
        - Don't worry  ProudDad   Mar-11-07 08:50 PM   #189 
           - Are you interested in taking a wager on that?  slackmaster   Mar-12-07 03:57 PM   #222 
        - Those statistics have been gone through a dozen times by you and I  krispos42   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #57 
        - Comparing murder rates b/w Chicago and Gary is foolish  AngryAmish   Mar-10-07 08:33 AM   #70 
        - India has less murder than America and they're poorer than Gary, IN  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 06:52 PM   #113 
        - correlation does not equal causation  Odin2005   Mar-10-07 11:50 AM   #87 
           - These people are dying CAUSE they're getting shot. There's your causation  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 08:35 PM   #127 
  - This is a lousy thing  ProudDad   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #32 
  - That's odd-- you don't think the "founding fathers" were capable of expressing their thoughts?  piedmont   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #33 
  - I hope the Supremes rule for the 2nd!  hollowdweller   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #34 
  - ...  Speaker   Mar-11-07 07:05 AM   #155 
  - Im sure they didnt image phones and internet...  Endangered Specie   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #43 
  - WELL REGULATED MILITIA  ProudDad   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #48 
  - THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED  piedmont   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #55 
  - "The Constitution shall never be construed...to prevent the people of the United States  MGD   Mar-10-07 08:13 PM   #122 
  - THE RIGHT...SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.  poorinnaples   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #56 
  - Are YOU getting it?  krispos42   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #61 
  - So you're saying that the right to bear arms...  KevinJ   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #62 
     - I'm saying the militia is more than the National Guard  krispos42   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #64 
  - My part of the Unorganized Militia is very well regulated indeed  slackmaster   Mar-10-07 10:15 AM   #80 
  - So you shoot earthquakes?  KevinJ   Mar-10-07 08:01 PM   #118 
     - Shooting at something after it's happened serves no useful purpose  slackmaster   Mar-11-07 09:55 AM   #164 
  - The Miltia was covered in Art 1 Sec 8  shield20   Mar-10-07 03:24 PM   #101 
     - Every able bodied WHITE male  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 06:55 PM   #115 
        - The Constitution has since been updated  krispos42   Mar-10-07 07:52 PM   #117 
           - And it will be updated somemore, but one cannot deny the original context  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 09:16 PM   #130 
              - And your point is?  piedmont   Mar-11-07 10:53 PM   #204 
                 - The 2nd amendment was steeped in racism, classism and manifest destiny  billbuckhead   Mar-14-07 01:01 AM   #244 
  - What it means is well established. The right to keep arms is for the purpose of a militia.  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-10-07 05:21 PM   #108 
     - The first clause doesn't place any restriction on the action of the sentence.  piedmont   Mar-10-07 08:24 PM   #123 
     - The decision is directly contradictory to legal precedent.  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-11-07 08:36 PM   #185 
        - So was Brown v. Board of Education  piedmont   Mar-12-07 02:43 AM   #206 
     - Assuming you mean that  sass29429   Mar-11-07 01:48 AM   #148 
        - If the militia is an anachronism, then so is the second amendment. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-11-07 08:42 PM   #186 
        - Well, if they require me to...  krispos42   Mar-12-07 12:09 PM   #214 
  - Repuke judges do help  KevinJ   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #36 
  - The dissenting opinion wasn't against the basic findings...  LibMan11   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #42 
     - Ha!  piedmont   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #44 
     - Like I said, right-wing judges help  KevinJ   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #45 
  - I see the constitution  scavenger   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #39 
  - Ok then, so lets all nuke up.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #47 
     - The government is your friend. Governments NEVER kill their people.  piedmont   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #58 
     - Governments are capable of great evil.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-10-07 09:44 AM   #75 
     - Glad you agree  piedmont   Mar-10-07 12:23 PM   #93 
     - Oh dear, am I being painted as an expert?  krispos42   Mar-11-07 01:47 AM   #147 
     - One fatal flaw with that argument...  krispos42   Mar-11-07 01:17 AM   #145 
     - But corporate arms merchants are our friends  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 08:31 PM   #125 
        - The fact that corporations make many of them doesn't make them eeeeevil.  piedmont   Mar-10-07 08:37 PM   #128 
           - Corporations make weapons  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 10:41 PM   #134 
              - Corporations make similac, and grow green beans, and... n/t  Speaker   Mar-11-07 07:58 AM   #157 
              - And the use of weapons can be either good, or bad  krispos42   Mar-11-07 12:47 PM   #178 
                 - Eisenhower's warning about the military industrial complex  billbuckhead   Mar-11-07 07:54 PM   #184 
                    - The military-industrial complex only has one big customer...  krispos42   Mar-12-07 12:20 PM   #215 
     - not a controlled weapon  scavenger   Mar-10-07 06:26 AM   #68 
        - Nonsense.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-10-07 09:37 AM   #73 
           - Are you honestly  Pavulon   Mar-10-07 10:04 AM   #78 
           - Suggesting? I'm 100% sure they would.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-10-07 10:25 AM   #82 
              - Well I disagree  Pavulon   Mar-10-07 12:03 PM   #90 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-12-07 03:44 PM   #220 
              - I'm more interested in your "distinct possibility statement."  Show_Me _The_Truth   Mar-10-07 08:01 PM   #119 
              - No people are not ready to riot.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-11-07 10:46 AM   #170 
              - ROTFLMAO  Speaker   Mar-11-07 08:10 AM   #159 
                 - The congress at that point  Warren Stupidity   Mar-11-07 10:35 AM   #167 
           - Give me an example  scavenger   Mar-10-07 10:59 AM   #84 
              - In any civil war, the army would fragment  krispos42   Mar-10-07 11:50 AM   #86 
                 - Yeah, but if more than one side had nukes, you'd be back to MAD-- which is pretty stable. nt  piedmont   Mar-10-07 12:05 PM   #91 
                 - But the redundency would be gone  krispos42   Mar-11-07 09:59 PM   #199 
                    - hmm, good point.  piedmont   Mar-12-07 03:41 AM   #208 
                       - Probably not in the face of power struggles within the rebels themselves  krispos42   Mar-12-07 11:58 AM   #212 
                 - Are you familiar  Pavulon   Mar-10-07 12:07 PM   #92 
                 - So in a civil war some of those 'civilians' would be on one  Warren Stupidity   Mar-10-07 12:40 PM   #94 
                    - The same thing could be said with the entire constitution  scavenger   Mar-10-07 01:50 PM   #97 
                 - So where are all the bomber basses at in Afghanistan and Iraq?  scavenger   Mar-10-07 01:23 PM   #95 
  - How are you going to stand  lazer47   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #40 
  - Exactly-- see post #8 nt  piedmont   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #41 
  - The same way  ProudDad   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #49 
     - LOL  Speaker   Mar-11-07 08:05 AM   #158 
  - I thought the DC circuit was lefty central?  krispos42   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #59 
  - Hardly - see my post 21  KevinJ   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #60 
  - And that's another thing to worry about.  zanne   Mar-11-07 10:53 AM   #173 
  - DC Circuit is the appellate court  AngryAmish   Mar-10-07 08:37 AM   #71 
  - Of course they did  shield20   Mar-10-07 03:39 PM   #104 
  - ...  Speaker   Mar-11-07 06:54 AM   #154 
     - What part of  ProudDad   Mar-11-07 09:03 PM   #190 
        - See post #61 et al.  krispos42   Mar-11-07 09:51 PM   #198 
  - I couldn't agree more.  Vexatious Ape   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #38 
  - It is a bad thing if you are familiar with DC. nt.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #46 
  - You've got that right, friend.  ProudDad   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #50 
  - And will everyone comply?  shield20   Mar-10-07 03:34 PM   #103 
  - No law will ever "get rid of the fucking things"  MGD   Mar-10-07 06:23 PM   #112 
  - Logic Errors:  ProudDad   Mar-11-07 09:07 PM   #192 
     - Do you doubt the ability of Americans to manufacture guns and their ammunition at home?  piedmont   Mar-12-07 02:47 AM   #207 
     - I, for one, do not doubt the ability at all  krispos42   Mar-13-07 12:50 PM   #233 
        - Smokeless powder could also be produced in home labs.  piedmont   Mar-13-07 05:13 PM   #237 
        - True, although I would not want to try it  krispos42   Mar-14-07 03:38 AM   #249 
        - This is SICK!!!  ProudDad   Mar-14-07 02:24 AM   #246 
           - So are meth labs and bath-tub gin. See the connection? nt  piedmont   Mar-14-07 03:19 AM   #247 
           - No  ProudDad   Mar-14-07 09:15 PM   #258 
           - Knowledge does not die  krispos42   Mar-14-07 03:54 AM   #250 
     - Straw man fallacies:  MGD   Mar-12-07 01:57 PM   #216 
  - .  Speaker   Mar-11-07 08:15 AM   #160 
     - And this is a good thing?  ProudDad   Mar-11-07 09:05 PM   #191 
        - Fortunately, my rights are not subject to the approval of your neighbors. n/t  Speaker   Mar-12-07 02:26 AM   #205 
  - DC certainly has more than its share of crooks and criminals  slackmaster   Mar-10-07 09:58 AM   #76 
  - Why? Doesn't make sense...  shield20   Mar-10-07 03:33 PM   #102 
  - Fuck this  ProudDad   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #52 
  - I used to be pro-gun control .....  Doremus   Mar-10-07 05:35 AM   #63 
  - You are a smart person...  FyurFly   Mar-10-07 05:36 AM   #66 
  - Guns are pretty much ineffective against tanks  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 11:34 AM   #85 
  - Not according to .50 Caliber Terror.com!!!!!!  piedmont   Mar-10-07 11:58 AM   #89 
  - There are other ways a citizenry can deal with tanks than with guns  NickB79   Mar-10-07 02:23 PM   #100 
  - Not generally against tanks. Softer targets yes.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-10-07 03:58 PM   #105 
     - I don't understand the fixation with tanks  piedmont   Mar-10-07 06:52 PM   #114 
        - Tanks have done a damn good job against 2nd amend type guns  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 08:04 PM   #120 
        - You do undestand that IEDs are IMPROVISED?  piedmont   Mar-10-07 08:11 PM   #121 
           - I rather my county have antitank missiles than the next door idiot have a gun  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 08:25 PM   #124 
              - While that may be your preference, it isn't grounded in reality. nt  piedmont   Mar-10-07 08:38 PM   #129 
              - Guerillas can't win with guns but they sure can win with missiles  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 09:23 PM   #132 
                 - Guerillas can't win WITHOUT guns, bill.  piedmont   Mar-10-07 09:26 PM   #133 
                    - When the Christians took over Rome  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 11:09 PM   #135 
                       - Not insurgencies.  piedmont   Mar-10-07 11:21 PM   #137 
                          - Actual revolutions trump "insurgencies" everywhere except gunnerworld  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 11:54 PM   #138 
                             - And we were discussing situations that call for insurgencies before you entered the thread.  piedmont   Mar-11-07 12:03 AM   #139 
                             - A-bombs are "tools" too  billbuckhead   Mar-11-07 12:12 AM   #140 
                                - And useless for civilian-led insurgencies. Try to keep up. nt  piedmont   Mar-11-07 12:13 AM   #141 
                                   - A-bombs are useless for civilian led insurgencies?  billbuckhead   Mar-11-07 12:17 AM   #142 
                                   - If not useless, then virtually impossible to acquire and manage.  piedmont   Mar-11-07 12:51 AM   #144 
                                   - Concede, concede, concede. I'm supposed to take your arguments serious?  billbuckhead   Mar-11-07 07:37 PM   #180 
                                   - That's the best you can do? nt  piedmont   Mar-11-07 10:50 PM   #202 
                             - Says the guy who's only argument is:  krispos42   Mar-11-07 01:53 AM   #149 
                                - I thought guns had no effect in our high murder rate, it's all societal problems  billbuckhead   Mar-11-07 07:44 PM   #181 
                                   - Ummmm.... I was referring to you... n/t  krispos42   Mar-12-07 12:03 PM   #213 
                                      - All these nations with low murder rates have no problems, like France?  billbuckhead   Mar-14-07 12:58 AM   #243 
                                      - Never mind  krispos42   Mar-14-07 03:57 AM   #251 
                                      - Only America has social problems that cause gunfire  billbuckhead   Mar-14-07 09:55 AM   #253 
              - Part of any insurgency is stealing from the invaders  krispos42   Mar-13-07 12:56 PM   #234 
        - I'm not sure that is correct.  Warren Stupidity   Mar-11-07 10:51 AM   #172 
           - There are other problems  krispos42   Mar-11-07 01:13 PM   #179 
  - My point, which I'm sure you already know, is that an armed citizenry  Doremus   Mar-10-07 05:51 PM   #109 
  - they are pretty ineffective against tanks.  ProudDad   Mar-11-07 09:09 PM   #193 
  - Does it really matter  madville   Mar-10-07 05:36 AM   #65 
     - You see the logical disconnect at the core of most attempted gun bans  slackmaster   Mar-10-07 10:00 AM   #77 
        - But when we see someone with an assault rifle we'll know for sure he's the enemy  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 07:51 PM   #116 
           - And then what? Use harsh language?  krispos42   Mar-11-07 01:57 AM   #150 
  - all it takes is the votes, and we'll come for your guns  anotherdrew   Mar-10-07 06:12 AM   #67 
  - That's sarcasm, right? (n/t)  benEzra   Mar-10-07 09:32 AM   #72 
  - I suppose it is  anotherdrew   Mar-10-07 01:35 PM   #96 
  - molon labe, friend.  aikoaiko   Mar-10-07 02:00 PM   #98 
  - Good, It is a political nightmare issue  Pavulon   Mar-10-07 09:39 AM   #74 
  - So I don't have a right to be safe.  zanne   Mar-10-07 10:21 AM   #81 
     - You most certainly do have a right to BE safe  slackmaster   Mar-10-07 10:44 AM   #83 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-10-07 02:11 PM   #99 
     - It is already ILLEGAL for kids to have guns  Pavulon   Mar-10-07 04:31 PM   #106 
  - This is a great ruling for privacy  slackmaster   Mar-10-07 10:11 AM   #79 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 11:55 AM   #88 
  - This *was* settled law. See Quilci vs. Morton Grove.  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-10-07 05:17 PM   #107 
  - the DC circuit is not bound by other circuit courts  Bacchus39   Mar-10-07 05:57 PM   #110 
  - The DC law went much further...  benEzra   Mar-10-07 05:58 PM   #111 
  - Let's let rednecks&neocons tell African Americans how to govern themselves  billbuckhead   Mar-10-07 11:17 PM   #136 
     - Clarify who is better  sass29429   Mar-11-07 01:35 AM   #146 
     - The problem with your logic is...  zanne   Mar-11-07 10:50 AM   #171 
     - No one can be trusted with firearms, law enforcement by necessity.  billbuckhead   Mar-12-07 07:25 PM   #225 
        - Umm.  Pavulon   Mar-12-07 10:14 PM   #228 
        - How are you different from the Authoritarian Neocons, then?  krispos42   Mar-13-07 01:16 PM   #235 
     - So people who believe that the 2ndA is an individual right are "rednecks and neocons"?  benEzra   Mar-11-07 06:41 AM   #153 
     - No, not all. Many of us Democrats cherish our rifles and shotguns. n/t  ShortnFiery   Mar-11-07 09:21 AM   #163 
     - I'm a Democrat and I love my...  FyurFly   Mar-11-07 09:47 PM   #197 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-11-07 09:14 PM   #194 
     - NeoCONS and rednecks are the leaders of the "gun rights" movement  billbuckhead   Mar-12-07 05:43 PM   #224 
     - You're slipping...  poorinnaples   Mar-11-07 07:56 AM   #156 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-11-07 09:10 AM   #161 
     - Not at all...  poorinnaples   Mar-11-07 09:59 AM   #165 
        - Wow! Thanks!  zanne   Mar-11-07 10:09 AM   #166 
           - Actions...  poorinnaples   Mar-11-07 10:38 AM   #168 
              - You're so right.  zanne   Mar-11-07 10:44 AM   #169 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-11-07 10:55 AM   #174 
                 - And...  poorinnaples   Mar-11-07 11:48 AM   #175 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-11-07 11:55 AM   #176 
                       - And...  poorinnaples   Mar-11-07 12:16 PM   #177 
     - Interesting  ProudDad   Mar-11-07 09:16 PM   #195 
     - I love Jim Webb!!!  FyurFly   Mar-11-07 09:22 PM   #196 
     - A majority of all American economic classes are for stronger gun laws  billbuckhead   Mar-12-07 07:46 PM   #226 
        - Nope, quickest way  Pavulon   Mar-12-07 10:29 PM   #231 
           - Bullshit. All the POTUS candidates in the lead lap are pro gun regulation  billbuckhead   Mar-14-07 12:44 AM   #242 
     - Thank you for reminding me of the gun-grabbers' prejudice against me  dmesg   Mar-15-07 02:43 PM   #265 
  - Settled Law  Thothmes   Mar-12-07 06:59 AM   #210 
  - Good. The vast majority of gun problems in DC are rooted in poverty, not the legality of guns. (nt)  w4rma   Mar-11-07 03:26 AM   #151 
  - Poverty isn't KILLING these people, BULLETS are KILLING these Americans  billbuckhead   Mar-11-07 07:46 PM   #182 
     - and the hand gun ban did what to save them?  Bacchus39   Mar-11-07 07:49 PM   #183 
     - You seem to be quite ignorant as to the cause of violence...  Jack_DeLeon   Mar-12-07 02:25 PM   #217 
     - Firearms enhance violence and escalate fights into murders  billbuckhead   Mar-12-07 05:32 PM   #223 
     - I have lots of bullets now  Pavulon   Mar-12-07 10:26 PM   #230 
     - And how were bullets killing them if there was a gun ban in effect  Mike Daniels   Mar-13-07 01:18 PM   #236 
        - BTW, lets legalize murder cause crooks won't the obey the laws. Gunner logic  billbuckhead   Mar-13-07 07:56 PM   #239 
  - Excellent, Now we can liquidate the Homeland Security Department  ShortnFiery   Mar-11-07 09:16 AM   #162 
  - Just a minor point - The National Cathedral is Episcopal, not Roman Catholic. n/t  Springster   Mar-12-07 05:47 AM   #209 
  - Another GREAT decision from the DC Circuit  ProudDad   Mar-11-07 08:43 PM   #187 
  - Consider your fear n/t  FyurFly   Mar-11-07 10:01 PM   #200 
     - My fear?  ProudDad   Mar-14-07 02:22 AM   #245 
        - Guns will never go away EVER!  FyurFly   Mar-14-07 02:36 PM   #256 
           - Why, thank you for your support...  ProudDad   Mar-14-07 09:16 PM   #259 
  - This is the longest thread I ever started  AngryAmish   Mar-12-07 02:41 PM   #218 
  - Are you really angry?  ProudDad   Mar-14-07 09:18 PM   #260 
  - I'm suprised it hasent been exiled to the gungeon by now...  davepc   Mar-12-07 03:37 PM   #219 
  - I totally disagree that this in any way overturns 70-odd years of law  slackmaster   Mar-12-07 03:56 PM   #221 
  - The only change it would make would be to replace the  benEzra   Mar-14-07 10:25 PM   #261 
  - Well, my beloved hometown (DC) doesn't actually "ban" handguns  dmesg   Mar-15-07 02:57 PM   #266 
 

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