| 12. Appeals Court Guts D.C. Gun Ban (Washington Post) |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20... A federal appellate panel today struck down parts of the District's gun law as unconstitutional, ruling that the city cannot bar people from keeping firearms in their homes.
The decision was a victory for six D.C. residents who said they wanted to keep firearms for self-defense. But it could have much broader implications: The case eventually could wind up before the U.S. Supreme Court as a test of the thorny issues surrounding the Second Amendment and the public's right to keep weapons. The District has one of the strictest gun laws in the nation -- barring all handguns unless they were registered prior to 1976 -- and that law has come under attack over the past three decades in Congress as well as the courts. Today's ruling guts key parts of the law, but does not address provisions that prohibit people from carrying unregistered guns outside the home.
Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D) and other D.C. officials were reviewing the opinion and planned a press conference for this afternoon.
The ruling came on a 2-to-1 vote by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit. Senior Judge Laurence H. Silberman wrote the majority opinion, also signed by Thomas B. Griffith. Karen LeCraft Henderson dissented.
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| -D.C. Circuit panel holds that the District of Columbia's gun control laws violates individual rights |
AngryAmish |
Mar-09-07 11:32 AM |
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As if the gun ban worked in DC anyway |
Mike Daniels |
Mar-09-07 11:37 AM |
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True |
KevinJ |
Mar-09-07 12:42 PM |
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Wait a minute |
virginia mountainman |
Mar-09-07 12:52 PM |
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Mar-09-07 01:03 PM |
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About time |
Solo_in_MD |
Mar-09-07 11:50 AM |
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Good |
bluestateguy |
Mar-09-07 12:20 PM |
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They have always had the right to defend themselves |
krispos42 |
Mar-11-07 12:48 AM |
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That's comforting given that the DC police are pretty imcompetent |
Mike Daniels |
Mar-12-07 07:49 AM |
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Another good precedent that reaffirms that "the people" are individuals |
Squatch |
Mar-09-07 12:29 PM |
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Finally! I was wondering when honest citizens could |
winter999 |
Mar-09-07 12:30 PM |
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One small correction to the OP |
derby378 |
Mar-09-07 02:40 PM |
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Potentially a huge decision. The article you link does mention |
NoGOPZone |
Mar-09-07 02:49 PM |
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en banc panals are quite rare |
AngryAmish |
Mar-10-07 08:29 AM |
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"If I didn't have this gun |
Bukowski Fan |
Mar-09-07 03:24 PM |
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"If I didn't have this gun |
friendly_iconoclast |
Mar-09-07 10:44 PM |
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Appeals Court Guts D.C. Gun Ban (Washington Post) |
davepc |
Mar-09-07 03:52 PM |
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Sweet! |
meldroc |
Mar-09-07 03:52 PM |
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Yes! |
brokensymmetry |
Mar-09-07 03:52 PM |
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AH-gree |
torrentprime |
Mar-15-07 12:17 PM |
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this was posted already. |
napi21 |
Mar-09-07 03:52 PM |
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This will be good |
NickB79 |
Mar-09-07 03:52 PM |
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Great news! |
SlipperySlope |
Mar-09-07 03:52 PM |
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That's right! |
KevinJ |
Mar-09-07 04:35 PM |
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Oh noes, now DC's gonna have guns everywhere! |
Lilith Velkor |
Mar-09-07 10:51 PM |
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Brady Campaign plays the "activist judges" card... |
davepc |
Mar-09-07 05:07 PM |
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Refresh my memory...where have I heard that term before? |
Squatch |
Mar-09-07 05:15 PM |
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Activist judges n/t |
DemKR |
Mar-09-07 06:02 PM |
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Owning a handgun isn't the problem; it's who owns the handgun |
brentspeak |
Mar-09-07 06:46 PM |
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Wingnut judges: |
struggle4progress |
Mar-09-07 07:26 PM |
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Mar-10-07 08:34 PM |
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... |
Speaker |
Mar-11-07 06:24 AM |
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a victory for the second amendment |
mark414 |
Mar-09-07 08:29 PM |
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Major ruling against D.C. handgun ban |
scavenger |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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nt |
onehandle |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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sorry |
scavenger |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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It's still a good ruling, though! |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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It's bad thing if you support human life |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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approx. 180,000,000 unarmed civillians were killed by their own governments (Germany, China, USSR) |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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BULLSHIT |
ProudDad |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Uh, you just agreed with me on every point, right? |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Nope |
ProudDad |
Mar-11-07 08:45 PM |
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It's not the guns, it's the desperation in the people who use them to kill. nt |
piedmont |
Mar-11-07 10:52 PM |
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No matter how desperate they are, they're generally less powerful w/o a gun |
billbuckhead |
Mar-12-07 09:37 PM |
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Assault Rifle is newspeak nazi word, infantry |
Pavulon |
Mar-12-07 10:23 PM |
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Actually, "assault weapon" is the term the gun-o-phobes invented for certain *scary* semi autos |
piedmont |
Mar-12-07 11:04 PM |
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Actually Hitler invented the term |
billbuckhead |
Mar-13-07 07:51 PM |
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Then it must be EEEEEEEEVIL!!!!!!11111 |
piedmont |
Mar-13-07 10:02 PM |
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So a rifle is not a weapon? |
billbuckhead |
Mar-14-07 12:42 AM |
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The terms "assault rifle" and "assault weapon" describe two different sets of firearms. |
piedmont |
Mar-14-07 03:22 AM |
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Semantics semantics semantics from gun worshipping sophists |
billbuckhead |
Mar-14-07 09:39 AM |
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A rifle is a weapon. A weapon is not necessarily a rifle |
krispos42 |
Mar-14-07 12:02 PM |
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An assault rifle is a weapon, 2nd amendment weapons are firearms |
billbuckhead |
Mar-14-07 08:20 PM |
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Okay, mom! :-) |
krispos42 |
Mar-15-07 11:29 AM |
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If one carries an assault-style rifle, |
slackmaster |
Mar-15-07 11:31 AM |
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"Storm Rifle". It is an accurate term, so I can't fault them for using it |
krispos42 |
Mar-14-07 02:33 PM |
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DC Homicide rate |
Hiram Abiff |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Any links to prove that assertion? I don't believe it |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 09:20 PM |
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D.C.homicide |
Hiram Abiff |
Mar-11-07 10:38 PM |
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Don't worry |
ProudDad |
Mar-11-07 08:50 PM |
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Are you interested in taking a wager on that? |
slackmaster |
Mar-12-07 03:57 PM |
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Those statistics have been gone through a dozen times by you and I |
krispos42 |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Comparing murder rates b/w Chicago and Gary is foolish |
AngryAmish |
Mar-10-07 08:33 AM |
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India has less murder than America and they're poorer than Gary, IN |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 06:52 PM |
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correlation does not equal causation |
Odin2005 |
Mar-10-07 11:50 AM |
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These people are dying CAUSE they're getting shot. There's your causation |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 08:35 PM |
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This is a lousy thing |
ProudDad |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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That's odd-- you don't think the "founding fathers" were capable of expressing their thoughts? |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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I hope the Supremes rule for the 2nd! |
hollowdweller |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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... |
Speaker |
Mar-11-07 07:05 AM |
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Im sure they didnt image phones and internet... |
Endangered Specie |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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WELL REGULATED MILITIA |
ProudDad |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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"The Constitution shall never be construed...to prevent the people of the United States |
MGD |
Mar-10-07 08:13 PM |
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THE RIGHT...SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. |
poorinnaples |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Are YOU getting it? |
krispos42 |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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So you're saying that the right to bear arms... |
KevinJ |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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I'm saying the militia is more than the National Guard |
krispos42 |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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My part of the Unorganized Militia is very well regulated indeed |
slackmaster |
Mar-10-07 10:15 AM |
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So you shoot earthquakes? |
KevinJ |
Mar-10-07 08:01 PM |
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Shooting at something after it's happened serves no useful purpose |
slackmaster |
Mar-11-07 09:55 AM |
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The Miltia was covered in Art 1 Sec 8 |
shield20 |
Mar-10-07 03:24 PM |
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Every able bodied WHITE male |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 06:55 PM |
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The Constitution has since been updated |
krispos42 |
Mar-10-07 07:52 PM |
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And it will be updated somemore, but one cannot deny the original context |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 09:16 PM |
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And your point is? |
piedmont |
Mar-11-07 10:53 PM |
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The 2nd amendment was steeped in racism, classism and manifest destiny |
billbuckhead |
Mar-14-07 01:01 AM |
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What it means is well established. The right to keep arms is for the purpose of a militia. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-10-07 05:21 PM |
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The first clause doesn't place any restriction on the action of the sentence. |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 08:24 PM |
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The decision is directly contradictory to legal precedent. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-11-07 08:36 PM |
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So was Brown v. Board of Education |
piedmont |
Mar-12-07 02:43 AM |
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Assuming you mean that |
sass29429 |
Mar-11-07 01:48 AM |
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If the militia is an anachronism, then so is the second amendment. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-11-07 08:42 PM |
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Well, if they require me to... |
krispos42 |
Mar-12-07 12:09 PM |
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Repuke judges do help |
KevinJ |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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The dissenting opinion wasn't against the basic findings... |
LibMan11 |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Ha! |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Like I said, right-wing judges help |
KevinJ |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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I see the constitution |
scavenger |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Ok then, so lets all nuke up. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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The government is your friend. Governments NEVER kill their people. |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Governments are capable of great evil. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-10-07 09:44 AM |
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Glad you agree |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 12:23 PM |
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Oh dear, am I being painted as an expert? |
krispos42 |
Mar-11-07 01:47 AM |
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One fatal flaw with that argument... |
krispos42 |
Mar-11-07 01:17 AM |
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But corporate arms merchants are our friends |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 08:31 PM |
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The fact that corporations make many of them doesn't make them eeeeevil. |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 08:37 PM |
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Corporations make weapons |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 10:41 PM |
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Corporations make similac, and grow green beans, and... n/t |
Speaker |
Mar-11-07 07:58 AM |
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And the use of weapons can be either good, or bad |
krispos42 |
Mar-11-07 12:47 PM |
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Eisenhower's warning about the military industrial complex |
billbuckhead |
Mar-11-07 07:54 PM |
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The military-industrial complex only has one big customer... |
krispos42 |
Mar-12-07 12:20 PM |
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not a controlled weapon |
scavenger |
Mar-10-07 06:26 AM |
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Nonsense. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-10-07 09:37 AM |
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Are you honestly |
Pavulon |
Mar-10-07 10:04 AM |
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Suggesting? I'm 100% sure they would. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-10-07 10:25 AM |
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Well I disagree |
Pavulon |
Mar-10-07 12:03 PM |
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Mar-12-07 03:44 PM |
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I'm more interested in your "distinct possibility statement." |
Show_Me _The_Truth |
Mar-10-07 08:01 PM |
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No people are not ready to riot. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-11-07 10:46 AM |
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ROTFLMAO |
Speaker |
Mar-11-07 08:10 AM |
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The congress at that point |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-11-07 10:35 AM |
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Give me an example |
scavenger |
Mar-10-07 10:59 AM |
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In any civil war, the army would fragment |
krispos42 |
Mar-10-07 11:50 AM |
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Yeah, but if more than one side had nukes, you'd be back to MAD-- which is pretty stable. nt |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 12:05 PM |
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But the redundency would be gone |
krispos42 |
Mar-11-07 09:59 PM |
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hmm, good point. |
piedmont |
Mar-12-07 03:41 AM |
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Probably not in the face of power struggles within the rebels themselves |
krispos42 |
Mar-12-07 11:58 AM |
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Are you familiar |
Pavulon |
Mar-10-07 12:07 PM |
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So in a civil war some of those 'civilians' would be on one |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-10-07 12:40 PM |
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The same thing could be said with the entire constitution |
scavenger |
Mar-10-07 01:50 PM |
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So where are all the bomber basses at in Afghanistan and Iraq? |
scavenger |
Mar-10-07 01:23 PM |
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How are you going to stand |
lazer47 |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Exactly-- see post #8 nt |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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The same way |
ProudDad |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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LOL |
Speaker |
Mar-11-07 08:05 AM |
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I thought the DC circuit was lefty central? |
krispos42 |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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Hardly - see my post 21 |
KevinJ |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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And that's another thing to worry about. |
zanne |
Mar-11-07 10:53 AM |
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DC Circuit is the appellate court |
AngryAmish |
Mar-10-07 08:37 AM |
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Of course they did |
shield20 |
Mar-10-07 03:39 PM |
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... |
Speaker |
Mar-11-07 06:54 AM |
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What part of |
ProudDad |
Mar-11-07 09:03 PM |
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See post #61 et al. |
krispos42 |
Mar-11-07 09:51 PM |
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I couldn't agree more. |
Vexatious Ape |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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It is a bad thing if you are familiar with DC. nt. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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You've got that right, friend. |
ProudDad |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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And will everyone comply? |
shield20 |
Mar-10-07 03:34 PM |
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No law will ever "get rid of the fucking things" |
MGD |
Mar-10-07 06:23 PM |
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Logic Errors: |
ProudDad |
Mar-11-07 09:07 PM |
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Do you doubt the ability of Americans to manufacture guns and their ammunition at home? |
piedmont |
Mar-12-07 02:47 AM |
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I, for one, do not doubt the ability at all |
krispos42 |
Mar-13-07 12:50 PM |
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Smokeless powder could also be produced in home labs. |
piedmont |
Mar-13-07 05:13 PM |
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True, although I would not want to try it |
krispos42 |
Mar-14-07 03:38 AM |
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This is SICK!!! |
ProudDad |
Mar-14-07 02:24 AM |
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So are meth labs and bath-tub gin. See the connection? nt |
piedmont |
Mar-14-07 03:19 AM |
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No |
ProudDad |
Mar-14-07 09:15 PM |
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Knowledge does not die |
krispos42 |
Mar-14-07 03:54 AM |
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Straw man fallacies: |
MGD |
Mar-12-07 01:57 PM |
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. |
Speaker |
Mar-11-07 08:15 AM |
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And this is a good thing? |
ProudDad |
Mar-11-07 09:05 PM |
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Fortunately, my rights are not subject to the approval of your neighbors. n/t |
Speaker |
Mar-12-07 02:26 AM |
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DC certainly has more than its share of crooks and criminals |
slackmaster |
Mar-10-07 09:58 AM |
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Why? Doesn't make sense... |
shield20 |
Mar-10-07 03:33 PM |
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Fuck this |
ProudDad |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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I used to be pro-gun control ..... |
Doremus |
Mar-10-07 05:35 AM |
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You are a smart person... |
FyurFly |
Mar-10-07 05:36 AM |
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Guns are pretty much ineffective against tanks |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 11:34 AM |
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Not according to .50 Caliber Terror.com!!!!!! |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 11:58 AM |
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There are other ways a citizenry can deal with tanks than with guns |
NickB79 |
Mar-10-07 02:23 PM |
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Not generally against tanks. Softer targets yes. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-10-07 03:58 PM |
#105 |
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I don't understand the fixation with tanks |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 06:52 PM |
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Tanks have done a damn good job against 2nd amend type guns |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 08:04 PM |
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You do undestand that IEDs are IMPROVISED? |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 08:11 PM |
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I rather my county have antitank missiles than the next door idiot have a gun |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 08:25 PM |
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While that may be your preference, it isn't grounded in reality. nt |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 08:38 PM |
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Guerillas can't win with guns but they sure can win with missiles |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 09:23 PM |
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Guerillas can't win WITHOUT guns, bill. |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 09:26 PM |
#133 |
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When the Christians took over Rome |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 11:09 PM |
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Not insurgencies. |
piedmont |
Mar-10-07 11:21 PM |
#137 |
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Actual revolutions trump "insurgencies" everywhere except gunnerworld |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 11:54 PM |
#138 |
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And we were discussing situations that call for insurgencies before you entered the thread. |
piedmont |
Mar-11-07 12:03 AM |
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A-bombs are "tools" too |
billbuckhead |
Mar-11-07 12:12 AM |
#140 |
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And useless for civilian-led insurgencies. Try to keep up. nt |
piedmont |
Mar-11-07 12:13 AM |
#141 |
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A-bombs are useless for civilian led insurgencies? |
billbuckhead |
Mar-11-07 12:17 AM |
#142 |
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If not useless, then virtually impossible to acquire and manage. |
piedmont |
Mar-11-07 12:51 AM |
#144 |
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Concede, concede, concede. I'm supposed to take your arguments serious? |
billbuckhead |
Mar-11-07 07:37 PM |
#180 |
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That's the best you can do? nt |
piedmont |
Mar-11-07 10:50 PM |
#202 |
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Says the guy who's only argument is: |
krispos42 |
Mar-11-07 01:53 AM |
#149 |
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I thought guns had no effect in our high murder rate, it's all societal problems |
billbuckhead |
Mar-11-07 07:44 PM |
#181 |
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Ummmm.... I was referring to you... n/t |
krispos42 |
Mar-12-07 12:03 PM |
#213 |
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All these nations with low murder rates have no problems, like France? |
billbuckhead |
Mar-14-07 12:58 AM |
#243 |
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Never mind |
krispos42 |
Mar-14-07 03:57 AM |
#251 |
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Only America has social problems that cause gunfire |
billbuckhead |
Mar-14-07 09:55 AM |
#253 |
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Part of any insurgency is stealing from the invaders |
krispos42 |
Mar-13-07 12:56 PM |
#234 |
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I'm not sure that is correct. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-11-07 10:51 AM |
#172 |
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There are other problems |
krispos42 |
Mar-11-07 01:13 PM |
#179 |
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My point, which I'm sure you already know, is that an armed citizenry |
Doremus |
Mar-10-07 05:51 PM |
#109 |
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they are pretty ineffective against tanks. |
ProudDad |
Mar-11-07 09:09 PM |
#193 |
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Does it really matter |
madville |
Mar-10-07 05:36 AM |
#65 |
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You see the logical disconnect at the core of most attempted gun bans |
slackmaster |
Mar-10-07 10:00 AM |
#77 |
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But when we see someone with an assault rifle we'll know for sure he's the enemy |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 07:51 PM |
#116 |
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And then what? Use harsh language? |
krispos42 |
Mar-11-07 01:57 AM |
#150 |
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all it takes is the votes, and we'll come for your guns |
anotherdrew |
Mar-10-07 06:12 AM |
#67 |
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That's sarcasm, right? (n/t) |
benEzra |
Mar-10-07 09:32 AM |
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I suppose it is |
anotherdrew |
Mar-10-07 01:35 PM |
#96 |
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molon labe, friend. |
aikoaiko |
Mar-10-07 02:00 PM |
#98 |
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Good, It is a political nightmare issue |
Pavulon |
Mar-10-07 09:39 AM |
#74 |
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So I don't have a right to be safe. |
zanne |
Mar-10-07 10:21 AM |
#81 |
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You most certainly do have a right to BE safe |
slackmaster |
Mar-10-07 10:44 AM |
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Mar-10-07 02:11 PM |
#99 |
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It is already ILLEGAL for kids to have guns |
Pavulon |
Mar-10-07 04:31 PM |
#106 |
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This is a great ruling for privacy |
slackmaster |
Mar-10-07 10:11 AM |
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Mar-10-07 11:55 AM |
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This *was* settled law. See Quilci vs. Morton Grove. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-10-07 05:17 PM |
#107 |
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the DC circuit is not bound by other circuit courts |
Bacchus39 |
Mar-10-07 05:57 PM |
#110 |
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The DC law went much further... |
benEzra |
Mar-10-07 05:58 PM |
#111 |
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Let's let rednecks&neocons tell African Americans how to govern themselves |
billbuckhead |
Mar-10-07 11:17 PM |
#136 |
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Clarify who is better |
sass29429 |
Mar-11-07 01:35 AM |
#146 |
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The problem with your logic is... |
zanne |
Mar-11-07 10:50 AM |
#171 |
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No one can be trusted with firearms, law enforcement by necessity. |
billbuckhead |
Mar-12-07 07:25 PM |
#225 |
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Umm. |
Pavulon |
Mar-12-07 10:14 PM |
#228 |
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How are you different from the Authoritarian Neocons, then? |
krispos42 |
Mar-13-07 01:16 PM |
#235 |
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So people who believe that the 2ndA is an individual right are "rednecks and neocons"? |
benEzra |
Mar-11-07 06:41 AM |
#153 |
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No, not all. Many of us Democrats cherish our rifles and shotguns. n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-07 09:21 AM |
#163 |
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I'm a Democrat and I love my... |
FyurFly |
Mar-11-07 09:47 PM |
#197 |
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Mar-11-07 09:14 PM |
#194 |
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NeoCONS and rednecks are the leaders of the "gun rights" movement |
billbuckhead |
Mar-12-07 05:43 PM |
#224 |
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You're slipping... |
poorinnaples |
Mar-11-07 07:56 AM |
#156 |
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Mar-11-07 09:10 AM |
#161 |
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Not at all... |
poorinnaples |
Mar-11-07 09:59 AM |
#165 |
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Wow! Thanks! |
zanne |
Mar-11-07 10:09 AM |
#166 |
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Actions... |
poorinnaples |
Mar-11-07 10:38 AM |
#168 |
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You're so right. |
zanne |
Mar-11-07 10:44 AM |
#169 |
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Mar-11-07 10:55 AM |
#174 |
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And... |
poorinnaples |
Mar-11-07 11:48 AM |
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Mar-11-07 11:55 AM |
#176 |
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And... |
poorinnaples |
Mar-11-07 12:16 PM |
#177 |
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Interesting |
ProudDad |
Mar-11-07 09:16 PM |
#195 |
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I love Jim Webb!!! |
FyurFly |
Mar-11-07 09:22 PM |
#196 |
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A majority of all American economic classes are for stronger gun laws |
billbuckhead |
Mar-12-07 07:46 PM |
#226 |
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Nope, quickest way |
Pavulon |
Mar-12-07 10:29 PM |
#231 |
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Bullshit. All the POTUS candidates in the lead lap are pro gun regulation |
billbuckhead |
Mar-14-07 12:44 AM |
#242 |
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Thank you for reminding me of the gun-grabbers' prejudice against me |
dmesg |
Mar-15-07 02:43 PM |
#265 |
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Settled Law |
Thothmes |
Mar-12-07 06:59 AM |
#210 |
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Good. The vast majority of gun problems in DC are rooted in poverty, not the legality of guns. (nt) |
w4rma |
Mar-11-07 03:26 AM |
#151 |
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Poverty isn't KILLING these people, BULLETS are KILLING these Americans |
billbuckhead |
Mar-11-07 07:46 PM |
#182 |
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and the hand gun ban did what to save them? |
Bacchus39 |
Mar-11-07 07:49 PM |
#183 |
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You seem to be quite ignorant as to the cause of violence... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Mar-12-07 02:25 PM |
#217 |
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Firearms enhance violence and escalate fights into murders |
billbuckhead |
Mar-12-07 05:32 PM |
#223 |
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I have lots of bullets now |
Pavulon |
Mar-12-07 10:26 PM |
#230 |
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And how were bullets killing them if there was a gun ban in effect |
Mike Daniels |
Mar-13-07 01:18 PM |
#236 |
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BTW, lets legalize murder cause crooks won't the obey the laws. Gunner logic |
billbuckhead |
Mar-13-07 07:56 PM |
#239 |
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Excellent, Now we can liquidate the Homeland Security Department |
ShortnFiery |
Mar-11-07 09:16 AM |
#162 |
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Just a minor point - The National Cathedral is Episcopal, not Roman Catholic. n/t |
Springster |
Mar-12-07 05:47 AM |
#209 |
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Another GREAT decision from the DC Circuit |
ProudDad |
Mar-11-07 08:43 PM |
#187 |
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Consider your fear n/t |
FyurFly |
Mar-11-07 10:01 PM |
#200 |
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My fear? |
ProudDad |
Mar-14-07 02:22 AM |
#245 |
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Guns will never go away EVER! |
FyurFly |
Mar-14-07 02:36 PM |
#256 |
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Why, thank you for your support... |
ProudDad |
Mar-14-07 09:16 PM |
#259 |
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This is the longest thread I ever started |
AngryAmish |
Mar-12-07 02:41 PM |
#218 |
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Are you really angry? |
ProudDad |
Mar-14-07 09:18 PM |
#260 |
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I'm suprised it hasent been exiled to the gungeon by now... |
davepc |
Mar-12-07 03:37 PM |
#219 |
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I totally disagree that this in any way overturns 70-odd years of law |
slackmaster |
Mar-12-07 03:56 PM |
#221 |
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The only change it would make would be to replace the |
benEzra |
Mar-14-07 10:25 PM |
#261 |
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Well, my beloved hometown (DC) doesn't actually "ban" handguns |
dmesg |
Mar-15-07 02:57 PM |
#266 |