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Mon Feb-26-07 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #24 |
| 25. Funny that you mention "quacks." |
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But it seems clear to me that you're intentionally misintrepting Depakid's post. Because you realize you've lost the argument.
That said, it's irrelevant what Depakid intended. There's no public call for forced vaccinations.
So why are you upset over this vaccine?
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| -(Massachusetts) Patrick seeks $72m hike in health aid (includes Gardasil coverage) |
Bill McBlueState |
Feb-26-07 03:16 PM |
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So long as it's optional. |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 03:25 PM |
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Why all this worry about optional? |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 03:29 PM |
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GOD DAMN IT! |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 03:32 PM |
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There you go again with the "guinea pig" meme |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 03:52 PM |
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Give it a break. |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 03:54 PM |
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Ah |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 03:56 PM |
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I do NOT want this vaccine! |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 03:57 PM |
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Obviously. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 03:59 PM |
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Leftists are just as bad a rightists. |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:00 PM |
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LOL |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:00 PM |
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You can refuse it all you want- |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 04:49 PM |
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Cervical cancer kills 4000+ each year.. |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:52 PM |
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This is an issue among all who consider GARDASIL's |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 05:54 PM |
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Remember DES? Three cousins of mine are... |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:55 PM |
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Not in Big Pharma La La Land, it seems. |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:02 PM |
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Good one! |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 06:03 PM |
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Again with the "must" misconception. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:11 PM |
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What's the deal with pretending that "mandatory" means "voluntary"? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:13 PM |
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I'm not the one making an issue out of it being optional. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:14 PM |
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If you want it to be optional, why do you say "mandatory"? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:20 PM |
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I'm not saying mandatory. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:23 PM |
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How about just saying "opt in" instead? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:52 PM |
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Opt out is better. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:16 PM |
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And if this vaccine turns out to have worse risks than benefits? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 07:26 PM |
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Well then I'll eat my hat. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:27 PM |
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Wild conspiracy theories? You mean like Vioxx? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 07:31 PM |
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DES, DPT... |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 07:33 PM |
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No. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:34 PM |
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I reckon you also reject the British MHRA, Health Canada and |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 06:12 PM |
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Yes, this group of anglo nations is perfectly trustworthy when it comes |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:18 PM |
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Anglo nations? What about the Franco nations? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:20 PM |
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Or the World Health Organization |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 06:46 PM |
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Sounds like a case for public health education. |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 07:05 PM |
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Education is great. Propaganda is not. Compulsion is even worse. n/t |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 07:17 PM |
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Who said anything about compulsion? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:21 PM |
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I sense |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 07:30 PM |
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Indeed. |
yibbehobba |
Feb-26-07 05:51 PM |
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Well, cervical cancer obviously is misunderstood by the loud |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 05:56 PM |
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There's hard proof... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:13 PM |
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No, it is not at all like that. |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:59 PM |
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Why all this worry about if it IS optional? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 05:51 PM |
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Thank you for showing up. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:52 PM |
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Are you saying that it's not optional? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:13 PM |
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I'm saying that if it is optional, why is it called "mandatory"? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:22 PM |
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Why be disingenuous? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:25 PM |
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No. Tetanus vaccinations have been around since the 1920s. |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 07:02 PM |
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How long is a long enough wait for you, mhatrw? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:08 PM |
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Let's wait until there is a SHRED of evidence that GARDASIL actually |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 07:13 PM |
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Six to ten years down the road, eh? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:20 PM |
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Let's wait to see how many tens of thousands more women suffer and die |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 07:22 PM |
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Sorry to burst your fundamentalist bubble, but science is not black and white. |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 07:29 PM |
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The science is rather clear on this. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:30 PM |
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It's always been optional. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 03:55 PM |
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I call BULLSHIT! |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 03:58 PM |
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No one's ever been in favor of forced vaccination. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 03:59 PM |
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You suddenly forgot about those threads where your minions were... |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:03 PM |
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Rick Perry's program was always optional. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:03 PM |
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Then why is there an "opt out" option" instead of an "opt in" option? |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:04 PM |
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So that more people get the vaccine. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:04 PM |
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And why does the government use the term mandate? |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:07 PM |
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Why do you use the term mandate? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:08 PM |
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Because Depakid (your side) used the term! |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:11 PM |
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Is that why you're using it? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:13 PM |
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You are skirting around the question. |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:16 PM |
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Are you suggesting that depakid... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:18 PM |
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That's what it sounds like. |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:18 PM |
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Funny that you mention "quacks." |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:23 PM |
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You are now attacking me because you have nothing left. |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:26 PM |
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I'm attacking you? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:29 PM |
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I got one of those. You see, we are not anti-vaccine... |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:31 PM |
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But you're not against mandating this vaccine.... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:33 PM |
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Cervical cancer is NOT an epidemic. |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:35 PM |
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No, but HPV is an epidemic. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:37 PM |
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How can GARDASIL possibly put an end to the HPV epidemic? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:08 PM |
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I have made no attacks against Depakid, I simply used his... |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:43 PM |
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Are you familiar with the term "strawman?" |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:47 PM |
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This is not a strawman, it is a fact. |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:51 PM |
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It is a fact... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:52 PM |
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Not "forced", but "mandated". |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:54 PM |
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As in Perry's program. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:54 PM |
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LOL. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:05 PM |
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Unfortunately, you don't know what mandates I referred to |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 04:56 PM |
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Of course this is semantics... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 04:58 PM |
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Americans just amaze me |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 04:59 PM |
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Yeah, other Western countries... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 05:01 PM |
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Funny that you should speak of the "mentally ill". |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:23 PM |
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OH MY GOD! |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 05:25 PM |
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Clinton was one Hell of a President, I have no problem with that... |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:27 PM |
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Obviously we have some catching up to do in the US. n/t |
yibbehobba |
Feb-26-07 05:53 PM |
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Maybe you should limit your kids to having sex with other Big Pharmabots? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:11 PM |
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bad should be in quotation marks... |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 06:13 PM |
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"Semantics"? |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:59 PM |
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You might want to check your dictionary. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 05:02 PM |
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Your friend is wrong than. You are for mandates. |
R_M |
Feb-26-07 04:59 PM |
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You think so? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 05:00 PM |
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??? |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 05:02 PM |
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Again, you are showing just how blinded you are by Science. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:21 PM |
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Once again you're blinded by puritanism. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 05:24 PM |
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Your smear is just that. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:26 PM |
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It's right there for everybody to see. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 05:28 PM |
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And here is the BULLSHIT answer. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:31 PM |
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Are you expecting to be taken seriously? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 05:31 PM |
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After all of what? |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:43 PM |
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Well, let's see... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 05:46 PM |
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Because you don't agree with me. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:49 PM |
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Science is just a method |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 05:55 PM |
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Your scientific conclusions versus other scientific conclusions. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:56 PM |
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There's scientific disagreement... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 05:59 PM |
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We have a scientific disagreement here. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 05:59 PM |
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No, we don't. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:04 PM |
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Other "sciences???" |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 06:04 PM |
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Then why not make it opt in? You would then get rid of the issue. |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:04 PM |
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No, that wouldn't get rid of the issue |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 06:06 PM |
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Because you for mandating it. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 06:08 PM |
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We're for an opt out program. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:16 PM |
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I simply advocate placing it on the immunization schedule that parents |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 06:36 PM |
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We are for an opt in program. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 06:42 PM |
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Well then what's all this nonsense about "mandatory?" |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:47 PM |
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That's what the current flawed law says. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 06:49 PM |
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No, AX10... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:07 PM |
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Feb-26-07 06:49 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Feb-26-07 06:50 PM |
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It's a perfectly valid frame |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 06:56 PM |
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The vaccine has not been proven over the long run term. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 07:00 PM |
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Real doctors and scientists disagree with you. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:09 PM |
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Certain Doctors and Scientists agree with you and certain ones.. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 07:10 PM |
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How long, AX10? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:12 PM |
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When you answer my question regarding the mandates. |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 07:13 PM |
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I answered your questions. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:15 PM |
#124 |
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The efficacy of the vaccine has been thoroughly tested with large "n's" |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 07:10 PM |
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So not saying "How high?" when Big Pharma says "Jump!" is |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 07:23 PM |
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Letting a kid get a disease... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:25 PM |
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So, the problem comes down to not enough sheep to fully immunize the herd? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 07:06 PM |
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Why is it always about sex? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 07:18 PM |
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You see, if you didn't have sex with everyone you met... |
AX10 |
Feb-26-07 07:36 PM |
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Because opt out is preferable. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-26-07 06:07 PM |
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How about if we make women "opt out" of annual HPV screenings? |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 06:50 PM |
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At least you might consider being honest |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 06:58 PM |
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It is largely untested on it targeted population. It is completely |
mhatrw |
Feb-26-07 07:09 PM |
#116 |
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That's untrue- and also utter sophistry |
depakid |
Feb-26-07 07:17 PM |
#126 |
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I would be willing to be that this Governor also has Merk stock. |
sarcasmo |
Feb-26-07 06:15 PM |
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Find out and let us know. |
Bill McBlueState |
Feb-26-07 07:14 PM |
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Locking |
mcscajun |
Feb-26-07 07:36 PM |
#143 |
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