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Sat Feb-24-07 10:09 AM
Response to Reply #25 |
| 31. I think that is despicable..... |
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I am not sure what state lets schools discriminate against blacks and lets schools only choose whites but if that is what is happening then they need to be sued. Charter schools are bound by all public school regulations in the state in which they reside and if the state allows this kind of prejudice then all officials need to be ousted and the schools need to be shut down - all of them.
If, on the other hand, it is simply that they are on the outskirts of town then people of all color are still able to attend. One nice thing about charters is they are not districted. One charter school, here, teaches kids from SIX counties! The longest commute is over an hour.
I can not speak to how they trick people into going away. The only thing I know is that if a state requires public schools to teach special education kids then the school is REQUIRED to have teachers on staff for those kids whether they attend or not. The charter school I am familiar with has something like 8 special needs teachers on staff. This includes everything from speech therapy, occupational therapy and children who are special education children. Some of these are 'children' who still need someone to even bring them to the bathroom.
But as I have stated in my other posts, I can only talk for schools I am familiar with and not each and every charter. As with any school system, there will be good and bad schools everywhere.
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| -Auditor: Closed charter school owes state $1.4 million |
LiberalFighter |
Feb-23-07 09:16 AM |
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This is why you don't mix |
AnneD |
Feb-23-07 09:20 AM |
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Accountable? |
gratuitous |
Feb-23-07 09:24 AM |
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Lather, rinse repeat. |
donco6 |
Feb-23-07 09:34 AM |
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Students in PA charter schools score lower on standardized tests |
PA Democrat |
Feb-23-07 03:54 PM |
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They found the same thing here. |
donco6 |
Feb-23-07 05:14 PM |
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Charter schools certainly aren't a "magic bullet", BUT |
alstephenson |
Feb-23-07 05:43 PM |
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Nope. They don't require state certifications for teachers. |
jazzjunkysue |
Mar-03-07 05:37 PM |
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Charter schools are not "privitized"... |
alstephenson |
Feb-23-07 05:52 PM |
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Privatize: |
PA Democrat |
Feb-23-07 07:25 PM |
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No they are NOT subject to the same oversight |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 07:42 AM |
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They need to improve the oversight. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 09:09 AM |
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I'll comment on curriculum |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 07:38 AM |
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Yes, that happens |
HockeyMom |
Feb-23-07 09:36 AM |
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It's the same in Arizona |
Tansy_Gold |
Feb-23-07 05:36 PM |
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So many bad stories about charter schools. |
demgurl |
Feb-23-07 06:15 PM |
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wow, lots of negative comments about charter schools here! |
genevat |
Feb-23-07 06:35 PM |
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Thank you for comments based on actual experience and facts |
Psephos |
Feb-23-07 08:06 PM |
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you're welcome. |
genevat |
Feb-23-07 10:36 PM |
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I agree that too many schools are too large |
LiberalFighter |
Feb-23-07 08:19 PM |
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it's not that schools are too large |
genevat |
Feb-23-07 10:39 PM |
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Many of your points underline why we need school vouchers! |
toopers |
Feb-24-07 06:33 AM |
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Yes let's take money away from public education! |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 07:45 AM |
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So a child who lives in a neighborhood with bad schools . . . |
toopers |
Feb-25-07 06:57 AM |
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Then let us fund and support that public school in order to make it better |
MadHound |
Feb-25-07 07:37 AM |
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In my city, they already spend more per student. |
toopers |
Feb-25-07 07:53 AM |
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What have they been spending that money on? How much more money per student are we talking about? |
MadHound |
Feb-25-07 08:15 AM |
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I understand your points . . . |
toopers |
Feb-25-07 08:53 AM |
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Please, stop pulling out the limiting others freedom canard. |
MadHound |
Feb-25-07 11:11 AM |
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Quit believing the hype |
proud2Blib |
Feb-25-07 10:57 AM |
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I never have believed the hype. |
LWolf |
Mar-03-07 01:52 PM |
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You've got to be kidding. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 09:35 AM |
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Individually, all of us support programs with disagree with . . |
toopers |
Feb-25-07 06:59 AM |
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And we all have the right to object to such use of taxes. |
donco6 |
Feb-25-07 09:54 AM |
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We have a ton of charters in my state |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 07:40 AM |
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Thankyou for the dose of REALITY. |
TankLV |
Feb-24-07 09:43 PM |
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Interesting. Now here's the flip side: |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 09:32 AM |
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I think that is despicable..... |
demgurl |
Feb-24-07 10:09 AM |
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And they differ from state to state. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 10:43 AM |
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we're not allowed to do that here. |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 11:50 AM |
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Our district schools are 60 to 65% Hispanic. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 11:57 AM |
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they go to other schools..... |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 12:00 PM |
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Well, you did, actually. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 12:07 PM |
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not so. |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 06:26 PM |
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Yes I know. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 08:11 PM |
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Our school may be different but I think we are used as a "default". |
demgurl |
Feb-25-07 11:14 AM |
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genvat.... |
demgurl |
Feb-24-07 12:58 PM |
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Does the charter provide transportation? n/t |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 08:00 PM |
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No, it does not provide transportation. |
demgurl |
Feb-24-07 09:11 PM |
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And with all due respect, there's a huge discriminator. |
donco6 |
Feb-25-07 09:42 AM |
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the lottery is the law. |
genevat |
Feb-25-07 10:16 AM |
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I think you truly have to know .... |
demgurl |
Feb-25-07 10:19 AM |
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Yes, it's been a good productive discussion. |
donco6 |
Feb-25-07 10:22 AM |
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BULLSHIT. Real world EXPERIENCE dictates otherwise. |
TankLV |
Feb-24-07 09:41 PM |
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that money follows the child. |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 11:05 PM |
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Nope - sorry - the money is "LOST" and does NOT "follow the child. |
TankLV |
Mar-03-07 08:47 PM |
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Charter schools have too many freedoms in how the money's handled. |
LiberalHeart |
Feb-25-07 12:08 AM |
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the school in your link is what the OP was about. |
genevat |
Feb-25-07 08:04 AM |
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That's just not true. I've read an audit of a charter school.... |
LiberalHeart |
Feb-25-07 10:58 AM |
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i was talking about the state i live in. |
genevat |
Feb-25-07 11:53 AM |
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Does your charter school teach the appropriate use of capital letters? |
Callous Taoboys |
Feb-25-07 06:23 AM |
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yes, why? |
genevat |
Feb-25-07 08:05 AM |
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Good stuff in this thread. |
rcdean |
Feb-24-07 07:28 AM |
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They can literally do whatever they want |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 07:46 AM |
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that's not true. see post #28. |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 09:56 AM |
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Yes it is true |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 12:52 PM |
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I hope I can help answer your question. |
demgurl |
Feb-24-07 09:55 AM |
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excellent post. thank you! |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 10:04 AM |
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Not necessarily so. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 10:33 AM |
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donoco6... |
demgurl |
Feb-24-07 12:31 PM |
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No disagreement here. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 12:37 PM |
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CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE RUN BY PRIVATE CORPORATIONS FOR A PROFIT. PERIOD. |
TankLV |
Feb-24-07 09:48 PM |
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A charter school can act as a front for private businesses... |
LiberalHeart |
Feb-25-07 12:16 AM |
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Thanks very much, demgurl. This helps a lot. |
rcdean |
Feb-25-07 08:47 AM |
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rcdean, you are very welcome. |
demgurl |
Feb-25-07 11:04 AM |
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I'm not yelling, just in caps to diferentiate my comments from yours |
ProudDad |
Mar-04-07 02:38 AM |
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they are basically public schools |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 09:55 AM |
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At will employment is one thing. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 10:11 AM |
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Same thing happened here in Vegas a couple years ago in the middle of the term. |
TankLV |
Feb-24-07 09:37 PM |
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Edison, btw, is still in business in Las Vegas |
Nevernose |
Feb-26-07 08:54 AM |
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Thanks to all who contributed to this thread. |
rcdean |
Feb-26-07 06:44 AM |
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last night i did some googling |
genevat |
Feb-26-07 08:55 AM |
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Halliburton Elementary School For The Exceptionally Greedy |
jazzjunkysue |
Mar-03-07 05:48 PM |
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