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Fri Feb-23-07 09:20 AM
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| 1. This is why you don't mix |
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business with education (or health care for that matter). That is 1.4 million that has evaporated and lost to education. The kids are the real losers here.
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| -Auditor: Closed charter school owes state $1.4 million |
LiberalFighter |
Feb-23-07 09:16 AM |
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This is why you don't mix |
AnneD |
Feb-23-07 09:20 AM |
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Accountable? |
gratuitous |
Feb-23-07 09:24 AM |
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Lather, rinse repeat. |
donco6 |
Feb-23-07 09:34 AM |
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Students in PA charter schools score lower on standardized tests |
PA Democrat |
Feb-23-07 03:54 PM |
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They found the same thing here. |
donco6 |
Feb-23-07 05:14 PM |
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Charter schools certainly aren't a "magic bullet", BUT |
alstephenson |
Feb-23-07 05:43 PM |
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Nope. They don't require state certifications for teachers. |
jazzjunkysue |
Mar-03-07 05:37 PM |
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Charter schools are not "privitized"... |
alstephenson |
Feb-23-07 05:52 PM |
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Privatize: |
PA Democrat |
Feb-23-07 07:25 PM |
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No they are NOT subject to the same oversight |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 07:42 AM |
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They need to improve the oversight. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 09:09 AM |
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I'll comment on curriculum |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 07:38 AM |
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Yes, that happens |
HockeyMom |
Feb-23-07 09:36 AM |
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It's the same in Arizona |
Tansy_Gold |
Feb-23-07 05:36 PM |
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So many bad stories about charter schools. |
demgurl |
Feb-23-07 06:15 PM |
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wow, lots of negative comments about charter schools here! |
genevat |
Feb-23-07 06:35 PM |
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Thank you for comments based on actual experience and facts |
Psephos |
Feb-23-07 08:06 PM |
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you're welcome. |
genevat |
Feb-23-07 10:36 PM |
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I agree that too many schools are too large |
LiberalFighter |
Feb-23-07 08:19 PM |
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it's not that schools are too large |
genevat |
Feb-23-07 10:39 PM |
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Many of your points underline why we need school vouchers! |
toopers |
Feb-24-07 06:33 AM |
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Yes let's take money away from public education! |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 07:45 AM |
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So a child who lives in a neighborhood with bad schools . . . |
toopers |
Feb-25-07 06:57 AM |
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Then let us fund and support that public school in order to make it better |
MadHound |
Feb-25-07 07:37 AM |
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In my city, they already spend more per student. |
toopers |
Feb-25-07 07:53 AM |
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What have they been spending that money on? How much more money per student are we talking about? |
MadHound |
Feb-25-07 08:15 AM |
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I understand your points . . . |
toopers |
Feb-25-07 08:53 AM |
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Please, stop pulling out the limiting others freedom canard. |
MadHound |
Feb-25-07 11:11 AM |
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Quit believing the hype |
proud2Blib |
Feb-25-07 10:57 AM |
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I never have believed the hype. |
LWolf |
Mar-03-07 01:52 PM |
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You've got to be kidding. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 09:35 AM |
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Individually, all of us support programs with disagree with . . |
toopers |
Feb-25-07 06:59 AM |
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And we all have the right to object to such use of taxes. |
donco6 |
Feb-25-07 09:54 AM |
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We have a ton of charters in my state |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 07:40 AM |
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Thankyou for the dose of REALITY. |
TankLV |
Feb-24-07 09:43 PM |
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Interesting. Now here's the flip side: |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 09:32 AM |
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I think that is despicable..... |
demgurl |
Feb-24-07 10:09 AM |
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And they differ from state to state. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 10:43 AM |
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we're not allowed to do that here. |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 11:50 AM |
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Our district schools are 60 to 65% Hispanic. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 11:57 AM |
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they go to other schools..... |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 12:00 PM |
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Well, you did, actually. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 12:07 PM |
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not so. |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 06:26 PM |
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Yes I know. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 08:11 PM |
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Our school may be different but I think we are used as a "default". |
demgurl |
Feb-25-07 11:14 AM |
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genvat.... |
demgurl |
Feb-24-07 12:58 PM |
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Does the charter provide transportation? n/t |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 08:00 PM |
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No, it does not provide transportation. |
demgurl |
Feb-24-07 09:11 PM |
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And with all due respect, there's a huge discriminator. |
donco6 |
Feb-25-07 09:42 AM |
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the lottery is the law. |
genevat |
Feb-25-07 10:16 AM |
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I think you truly have to know .... |
demgurl |
Feb-25-07 10:19 AM |
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Yes, it's been a good productive discussion. |
donco6 |
Feb-25-07 10:22 AM |
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BULLSHIT. Real world EXPERIENCE dictates otherwise. |
TankLV |
Feb-24-07 09:41 PM |
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that money follows the child. |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 11:05 PM |
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Nope - sorry - the money is "LOST" and does NOT "follow the child. |
TankLV |
Mar-03-07 08:47 PM |
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Charter schools have too many freedoms in how the money's handled. |
LiberalHeart |
Feb-25-07 12:08 AM |
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the school in your link is what the OP was about. |
genevat |
Feb-25-07 08:04 AM |
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That's just not true. I've read an audit of a charter school.... |
LiberalHeart |
Feb-25-07 10:58 AM |
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i was talking about the state i live in. |
genevat |
Feb-25-07 11:53 AM |
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Does your charter school teach the appropriate use of capital letters? |
Callous Taoboys |
Feb-25-07 06:23 AM |
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yes, why? |
genevat |
Feb-25-07 08:05 AM |
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Good stuff in this thread. |
rcdean |
Feb-24-07 07:28 AM |
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They can literally do whatever they want |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 07:46 AM |
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that's not true. see post #28. |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 09:56 AM |
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Yes it is true |
proud2Blib |
Feb-24-07 12:52 PM |
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I hope I can help answer your question. |
demgurl |
Feb-24-07 09:55 AM |
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excellent post. thank you! |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 10:04 AM |
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Not necessarily so. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 10:33 AM |
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donoco6... |
demgurl |
Feb-24-07 12:31 PM |
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No disagreement here. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 12:37 PM |
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CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE RUN BY PRIVATE CORPORATIONS FOR A PROFIT. PERIOD. |
TankLV |
Feb-24-07 09:48 PM |
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A charter school can act as a front for private businesses... |
LiberalHeart |
Feb-25-07 12:16 AM |
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Thanks very much, demgurl. This helps a lot. |
rcdean |
Feb-25-07 08:47 AM |
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rcdean, you are very welcome. |
demgurl |
Feb-25-07 11:04 AM |
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I'm not yelling, just in caps to diferentiate my comments from yours |
ProudDad |
Mar-04-07 02:38 AM |
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they are basically public schools |
genevat |
Feb-24-07 09:55 AM |
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At will employment is one thing. |
donco6 |
Feb-24-07 10:11 AM |
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Same thing happened here in Vegas a couple years ago in the middle of the term. |
TankLV |
Feb-24-07 09:37 PM |
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Edison, btw, is still in business in Las Vegas |
Nevernose |
Feb-26-07 08:54 AM |
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Thanks to all who contributed to this thread. |
rcdean |
Feb-26-07 06:44 AM |
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last night i did some googling |
genevat |
Feb-26-07 08:55 AM |
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Halliburton Elementary School For The Exceptionally Greedy |
jazzjunkysue |
Mar-03-07 05:48 PM |
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