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Reply #8: Would you agree that misinformation is a bad thing? [View All]

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8. Would you agree that misinformation is a bad thing?
They're trying to balance access (in schools no less, which is laudable) with the fact that the US government is doing everything it can to bring down the Cuban system, which includes working through misinformation.
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  Cuban official defends internet controls Bacchus39  Feb-13-07 12:21 PM   #0 
   "The wild colt of 'information' must be controlled" nt  LiberalVoice   Feb-13-07 12:24 PM   #1 
   This is very reasonable  manic expression   Feb-13-07 01:15 PM   #2 
   we certainly wouldn't want people using the internet to criticize the government  Bacchus39   Feb-13-07 02:51 PM   #3 
   Different scenario  manic expression   Feb-13-07 04:13 PM   #5 
      How could the internet be a threat to Cuba? nt  hack89   Feb-13-07 04:28 PM   #7 
      Would you agree that misinformation is a bad thing?  manic expression   Feb-13-07 04:32 PM   #8 
         Would you agree that having the government  hack89   Feb-13-07 05:38 PM   #15 
         Cubans have access to the internet IF they can afford it.  Mika   Feb-13-07 06:09 PM   #18 
         Ruh-roh, E-Net's site is running on .Net Framework  slackmaster   Feb-13-07 06:36 PM   #26 
         very well said  Bacchus39   Feb-13-07 06:36 PM   #25 
         The government is extremely responsive to the people  manic expression   Feb-13-07 07:15 PM   #33 
            What have I said that is so threatening to the Cuban regime ..  hack89   Feb-13-07 08:09 PM   #36 
            Cubans are not concerned about hack89  manic expression   Feb-13-07 08:17 PM   #38 
            You deserve the same rights as the Cuban people.  Mika   Feb-13-07 10:23 PM   #71 
               So why can't they have the right to a  hack89   Feb-13-07 10:42 PM   #74 
               Speaking of housing, you'd think Ernest Hemingway's house, declared as a nat'l treasure  ohio2007   Feb-14-07 01:11 PM   #108 
            so Cuba needs censorship?  Bacchus39   Feb-13-07 08:34 PM   #42 
               Cuba wants to block American misinformation  manic expression   Feb-13-07 08:50 PM   #46 
                  When someone has the job of deciding what is information and what is misinformation  slackmaster   Feb-13-07 09:23 PM   #59 
                  As I've said  manic expression   Feb-13-07 09:31 PM   #62 
                     I wouldn't want "the people" deciding ANYTHING for me  slackmaster   Feb-13-07 09:32 PM   #63 
                        You can not want it all you want  manic expression   Feb-13-07 09:33 PM   #64 
                           If a few individuals decide what most of the people get to read, hear, and see  slackmaster   Feb-13-07 09:58 PM   #67 
                              It's not the few  manic expression   Feb-13-07 10:18 PM   #70 
                                 Cubans tolerate blatant propoganda from their government  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 12:20 AM   #77 
                                 Support that statement  manic expression   Feb-14-07 12:07 PM   #100 
                                    State run media and programming are more than evidence  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 06:02 PM   #142 
                                       And what of CNN radio?  manic expression   Feb-14-07 06:12 PM   #148 
                                       its not from Cuba now is it??  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 08:11 PM   #172 
                                       People in Cuba can listen to it easily  manic expression   Feb-14-07 08:46 PM   #178 
                                 The whole body of the people does not vote on every book, news article, URL, etc.  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 10:42 AM   #97 
                                 I agree with part of your latter statement. End the embargo.  Mika   Feb-14-07 10:56 AM   #98 
                                    Before that will happen, "you know who" has to assume room temp  ohio2007   Feb-14-07 12:47 PM   #107 
                                 How do "the many"  sufrommich   Feb-14-07 02:52 PM   #113 
                                    Through many mediums  manic expression   Feb-14-07 04:13 PM   #116 
                                       All definitions are social definitions.  sufrommich   Feb-14-07 04:32 PM   #121 
                                          Not necessarily  manic expression   Feb-14-07 04:41 PM   #122 
                                          Oh please.  sufrommich   Feb-14-07 04:56 PM   #124 
                                          No damage  manic expression   Feb-14-07 05:01 PM   #126 
                                          What "significant wealth" would that be?  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 05:20 PM   #129 
                                          Anything more than personal possessions  manic expression   Feb-14-07 05:25 PM   #131 
                  Would you  Big Pappa   Feb-14-07 01:32 AM   #83 
                  As I've said before  manic expression   Feb-14-07 12:18 PM   #104 
                     No  Big Pappa   Feb-14-07 10:28 PM   #180 
                  So everything that the Cuban government blocks is American  smitty   Feb-14-07 06:09 PM   #146 
                     They get radio and tv stations from Miami, from the other islands,  Judi Lynn   Feb-14-07 06:22 PM   #152 
                        If Cubans are so well informed why does the government  smitty   Feb-14-07 06:26 PM   #155 
                           This is something you're going to have to apply yourself to studying.  Judi Lynn   Feb-14-07 06:43 PM   #159 
                           Basically you have no answer to my question. I think the  smitty   Feb-14-07 06:54 PM   #165 
                           The only "restrictions" are against pirate IPs supplied by the US interests section &..  Mika   Feb-14-07 07:03 PM   #167 
                           You're misreading the information already given you on this board  Judi Lynn   Feb-14-07 07:17 PM   #170 
         So is the US sending adware directly to the Cuban population?  jhasp   Feb-14-07 09:44 AM   #93 
            Your US propaganda based post is astounding.  Mika   Feb-14-07 10:24 AM   #96 
               I wonder if Cubans have "acces denied" trying to open your link  ohio2007   Feb-14-07 01:17 PM   #110 
               Here's a new car in Cuba  killbotfactory   Feb-14-07 07:04 PM   #168 
      On that note.  Mika   Feb-14-07 09:30 AM   #92 
   I, for one, welcome our Wild Colt of Information overlords  Psephos   Feb-13-07 03:53 PM   #4 
   it's not reasonable at all  paulk   Feb-13-07 04:41 PM   #10 
   Neither of us know that  manic expression   Feb-13-07 04:45 PM   #11 
   It's amazing  spoony   Feb-13-07 05:24 PM   #13 
   It's amazing that people want to criticize  manic expression   Feb-13-07 07:07 PM   #29 
      no-one is criticizing Cuba for installing computers in schools  Bacchus39   Feb-13-07 08:44 PM   #44 
         They're just ignoring it  manic expression   Feb-13-07 08:53 PM   #47 
            and searching witth Google will obviously lead to "misinformation"  Bacchus39   Feb-13-07 09:02 PM   #48 
               Which country is trying to topple us  manic expression   Feb-13-07 09:05 PM   #50 
                  alternate sources of information besides State run media  Bacchus39   Feb-13-07 09:09 PM   #52 
                     There is no lack of that in Cuba  manic expression   Feb-13-07 09:11 PM   #53 
                        can you watch it??  Bacchus39   Feb-13-07 09:18 PM   #55 
                           American basic cable  manic expression   Feb-13-07 09:24 PM   #60 
                              American basic cable  ngant17   Feb-14-07 01:24 AM   #81 
   you can certainly make a pretty good guess  paulk   Feb-13-07 05:50 PM   #17 
      Only if you know about Cuba's system  manic expression   Feb-13-07 07:19 PM   #34 
         So, YOU deserve and have the right to full internet access but the Cubans  ohio2007   Feb-13-07 08:26 PM   #40 
         I never talked about what I deserve  manic expression   Feb-13-07 08:31 PM   #41 
            It's not just US "misinformation" that's being censored  ohio2007   Feb-13-07 09:03 PM   #49 
            Freedom  manic expression   Feb-13-07 09:09 PM   #51 
               But what else do they want none of?  hack89   Feb-13-07 09:21 PM   #58 
                  Obviously not  manic expression   Feb-13-07 09:27 PM   #61 
                     Are you willing to give up freedoms you presently enjoy ..  hack89   Feb-13-07 10:39 PM   #73 
                        Freedom  manic expression   Feb-13-07 11:03 PM   #76 
                           The people decided what was right in the Jim Crow south  AngryAmish   Feb-14-07 09:56 AM   #94 
                              So AngryAmish  manic expression   Feb-14-07 12:10 PM   #101 
                                 "There is no basis for rights"  sufrommich   Feb-14-07 03:05 PM   #114 
                                 I've been waiting  manic expression   Feb-14-07 04:21 PM   #118 
                                    What are you trying to do, start a philosophy debate here?  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 05:19 PM   #127 
                                    If people are going to evoke  manic expression   Feb-14-07 05:22 PM   #130 
                                    I'm confident you will have a snappy comeback no matter what anyone says  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 05:27 PM   #132 
                                    I try to offer disagreement  manic expression   Feb-14-07 05:31 PM   #134 
                                    You sound a lot like I did after taking a year of undergraduate philosophy classes  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 05:38 PM   #136 
                                    I've never taken a philosophy course  manic expression   Feb-14-07 05:42 PM   #137 
                                    I told you my philosophy is based on my own personal observation and thought  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 05:44 PM   #138 
                                    In other words  manic expression   Feb-14-07 05:49 PM   #140 
                                    You're more interested in "proving" you are right than in basic human needs  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 06:18 PM   #149 
                                    I'm still waiting for a real basis  manic expression   Feb-14-07 06:20 PM   #150 
                                    You have failed as well  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 06:25 PM   #154 
                                    Not really  manic expression   Feb-14-07 06:42 PM   #158 
                                    Show of hands please - How many minds has manic expression changed here?  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 06:50 PM   #160 
                                    This is a bad excuse  manic expression   Feb-14-07 06:52 PM   #162 
                                    What's the basis for saying that people directing their own communities is justified?  nick303   Feb-14-07 08:37 PM   #176 
                                    The difference you neglected  manic expression   Feb-14-07 09:09 PM   #179 
                                    I think that you are trying to make  Amused Musings   Feb-14-07 05:37 PM   #135 
                                       Not exactly  manic expression   Feb-14-07 06:06 PM   #144 
                                       Class is concrete?  Amused Musings   Feb-14-07 06:40 PM   #157 
                                       Yes  manic expression   Feb-14-07 06:50 PM   #161 
                                       This forum is for Democrats of all stripes  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 06:53 PM   #163 
                                       This forum is also for 'other progressives'  manic expression   Feb-14-07 06:54 PM   #164 
                                       I consider your politics to be regressive, not progressive  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 06:55 PM   #166 
                                       I guess I should respond in order  Amused Musings   Feb-14-07 08:13 PM   #173 
                                       OK  manic expression   Feb-14-07 08:43 PM   #177 
                                 So you would accept it if American society ..  hack89   Feb-14-07 04:00 PM   #115 
                                    Strawman argument  manic expression   Feb-14-07 04:23 PM   #119 
                                       No - we are arguing the fundamental source of freedom  hack89   Feb-14-07 04:53 PM   #123 
                                          That's not what you're arguing  manic expression   Feb-14-07 04:57 PM   #125 
                                          Speaking of American lies, there is the time the Cuban "exiles" who run, at U.S. taxpayers' expense,  Judi Lynn   Feb-14-07 05:20 PM   #128 
                                          What do Cuban exiles have to do with  sufrommich   Feb-14-07 05:27 PM   #133 
                                          Cuban right-wing reactionaries are creating the information which flows to Cuba  Judi Lynn   Feb-14-07 06:07 PM   #145 
                                          Judi Lynn, would you favor the USA censoring US right-wing reactionaries too?  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 06:35 PM   #156 
                                          What's not to grasp in what Mika wrote earlier in the thread?  Judi Lynn   Feb-14-07 07:14 PM   #169 
                                          Apparently,there is only one truth and it is yours.  sufrommich   Feb-14-07 07:48 PM   #171 
                                          No one has ever implied that. Try stretching your mind to take in the history between  Judi Lynn   Feb-14-07 08:20 PM   #174 
                                          I know history well enough  sufrommich   Feb-14-07 08:30 PM   #175 
            There are some good lines from a Canadian article I stumbled across tonight:  Judi Lynn   Feb-13-07 09:19 PM   #56 
            "Bombarded by US misinformation"...Oh PULEEEZ!  rayofreason   Feb-13-07 09:36 PM   #65 
               Do you live in Cuba?  manic expression   Feb-13-07 09:45 PM   #66 
                  you can set your Home Page to DU or Yahoo or www.granma.cu  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 12:25 AM   #78 
                     Like I said  manic expression   Feb-14-07 12:29 AM   #79 
                        give an example of the propaganda that Cubans would be subjected to  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 08:42 AM   #90 
                           First of all  manic expression   Feb-14-07 12:15 PM   #103 
                              I think there is plenty of evidence if you bother to google  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 06:20 PM   #151 
         "Cuba's government is a government of and for the people."  paulk   Feb-14-07 02:15 PM   #111 
   Cuban leaders want to control all free thought. and open exchange of ideas  ohio2007   Feb-13-07 06:31 PM   #24 
   No its not  Pavulon   Feb-13-07 10:12 PM   #69 
   Are you for real?  yibbehobba   Feb-14-07 08:38 AM   #88 
   There will never be a DU in Cuba.  hack89   Feb-13-07 04:27 PM   #6 
   The entire nation of Cuba is an advanced DU  ngant17   Feb-13-07 04:54 PM   #12 
      So there are forums for the free exchange of ideas ..  hack89   Feb-13-07 05:35 PM   #14 
      Cuba's Revolution  ngant17   Feb-13-07 06:19 PM   #21 
         The Cuba TV show "The Round Table" is DU TV. eom  Mika   Feb-13-07 06:23 PM   #22 
         Yet is such a fragile social system  hack89   Feb-13-07 08:15 PM   #37 
            No system should be forced to withstand foreign interference  manic expression   Feb-13-07 08:21 PM   #39 
               Why is it so important to you to personalize this discusion?  hack89   Feb-13-07 09:16 PM   #54 
               First  manic expression   Feb-13-07 09:20 PM   #57 
                  But why can't they simply ignore it?  hack89   Feb-13-07 10:31 PM   #72 
                     Many reasons  manic expression   Feb-13-07 10:57 PM   #75 
                        I feel that the Cuban people are strong enough to resist ..  hack89   Feb-14-07 09:58 AM   #95 
                           A condescending attitude indeed  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 11:58 AM   #99 
                           They most certainly are  manic expression   Feb-14-07 12:10 PM   #102 
                              and the propaganda that they would be subjected to  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 12:35 PM   #105 
                                 If you're good at one thing  manic expression   Feb-14-07 12:43 PM   #106 
                                    you cannot answer how they would be exposed to misinformation  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 04:20 PM   #117 
                                       I have  manic expression   Feb-14-07 04:25 PM   #120 
                                          I would be delighted to read your posts. please list the post numbers  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 05:48 PM   #139 
                                             How about  manic expression   Feb-14-07 05:51 PM   #141 
                                                purely speculative, and Cubans would have to look  Bacchus39   Feb-14-07 06:24 PM   #153 
               Not only are they not scared of it...  yibbehobba   Feb-14-07 08:54 AM   #91 
      You forgot to mention Bill Gates, Steve Jobs et el  ohio2007   Feb-13-07 07:10 PM   #32 
         Who invented the internet?  manic expression   Feb-13-07 08:03 PM   #35 
            Al Gore??  Bacchus39   Feb-13-07 08:36 PM   #43 
               That has nothing to do with my post  manic expression   Feb-13-07 08:44 PM   #45 
               LOL, thats right, AL Gore said that one  ohio2007   Feb-14-07 08:42 AM   #89 
   There is considerable editorializing  Flanker   Feb-13-07 04:38 PM   #9 
   Do you think they have access to DU?  hack89   Feb-13-07 05:39 PM   #16 
      I would welcome their contribution  Bacchus39   Feb-13-07 06:16 PM   #19 
      Yes they do.  Mika   Feb-13-07 06:16 PM   #20 
         and the restrictions are in place because....??  Bacchus39   Feb-13-07 06:24 PM   #23 
         And then there's the knee-jerk "All problems in Cuba are USA's fault"  slackmaster   Feb-13-07 06:41 PM   #27 
            This is a statment devoid of reasoning or economics  Flanker   Feb-13-07 06:56 PM   #28 
            Without internet access for the public...they don't know  ohio2007   Feb-13-07 07:07 PM   #30 
            Cuban literacy  ngant17   Feb-14-07 01:28 AM   #82 
            Literacy is what gets the doctors out of Cuba  ohio2007   Feb-14-07 08:31 AM   #86 
               totally wrong on that point  ngant17   Feb-15-07 01:44 AM   #181 
            Cubans have free access to the internet in most all libraries.  Mika   Feb-14-07 08:35 AM   #87 
            Set aside some time and start getting the information you need, as we all do,  Judi Lynn   Feb-13-07 07:08 PM   #31 
            I guess that you didn't read the article posted in the OP.  Mika   Feb-14-07 08:20 AM   #84 
               Without the US to blame, Cuba will have to face up to its problems  slackmaster   Feb-14-07 02:20 PM   #112 
   "The wild colt of new technologies can and must be controlled"  joshcryer   Feb-13-07 10:03 PM   #68 
   No matter how you twist and rationalize it, it stinks of government  smitty   Feb-14-07 06:06 PM   #143 
   I love Cuba. I support the Revolution.  roody   Feb-14-07 12:29 AM   #80 
   The "cult of Fidel" only exists in the USA. Primarily in Miami & Washington.  Mika   Feb-14-07 08:25 AM   #85 
      I like the cult of Fidel lovers. I could easily be one.  roody   Feb-14-07 06:11 PM   #147 
   So Cuba is doing what Bush wants to do?  ItNerd4life   Feb-14-07 01:16 PM   #109 
 

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