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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:19 PM
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23. its not evil
there is no such thing.

the sunnis have been the 'rich' of iraq during the hussein era. what we see is a combination of groups:
1. baathist "dead enders" - republican guards providing logistics, strategy, training, leadership
2. sunni civilians - financing, leg work, attacks, but not suicide bombers, men like those described by col. kurtz below.
3. foreign jihadis - suicide troops

cheney & rumsfeld were outstrategized. the only way to 'win' at this point is to decimate the population with brutality to the point where they cannot resist anymore. i would hope that we prefer defeat to victory at that cost to our souls.


KURTZ
" I've seen horrors...horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call
me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that...But
you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is
necessary to those who do not know what horror means.
Horror. Horror has a face...And you must make a friend of horror. Horror and
moral terrorare your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to be feared.
They are truly enemies. I remember when I was with Special Forces...Seems
a thousand centuries ago...We went into a camp to innoculate the children.
We left the camp after we had innoculated the children for Polio, and this old
man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went
back there and they had come and hacked off every innoculated arm. There
they were in a pile...A pile of little arms. And I remember...I...I...I cried...
I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I
wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want
to forget. And then I realized...like I was shot...Like I was shot with a
diamond...a diamond bullet right through my forehead...And I thought:
My God...the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect,
genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were
stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not
monsters...These were men...trained cadres...these men who fought with
their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with
love...but they had the strength...the strength...to do that. If I had ten
divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly. You
have to have men who are moral...and at the same time who are able to
utilize their primordal instincts to kill without feeling...without passion...
without judgement...without judgement. Because it's judgement that
defeats us. "
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