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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:14 AM
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17. I agree that blaming Iran makes no sense.
Iran "could" have an interest in attacking the troops of the Great Satan in a Muslim country, but not Shia civilians. (And there is no proof of the former either.)

The attackers here could be Sunni "insurgents" resisting American occupation by attacking civilians, thereby creating chaos and prompting a troop withdrawal. (That would be bloodthirsty strategy, but perhaps a successful one in the end. At least if the attackers are of this mind, there is hope that the slaughter would stop once we withdraw.

The other possibility it is just the Sunni side of the civil war killing as many Shia as possible as fast as possible. (We saw much the same killing in the Balkans in the 1990's.) If that is the case and the level of mutual violence is at such a high level, pulling out security forces of any kind (unless you replace them with some from another source) will likely not help the killing. (The lid was only put on the violence in the Balkans when the UN went in and stayed.)

Of course, one last wonderful option is the the violence is a combination of the two above. "Patriotic" opponents of an American occupation who are able to "kill two birds with one stone", so to speak, by creating the chaos mentioned in the first possibility and killing some Shiites as a bonus to further their civil war objectives.

If one accepts the first option, we should get out as soon as possible. The Iraqis can handle the rest, since the violence should decline when the reason for it is gone. To the extent that the mass killing of civilians is the result of a civil war, in whole or in part, which we helped create through an illegal invasion and incompetent occupation, we should do all we can to be sure that some security force replaces us to provide some protection for the civilians.
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