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kellyj Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:34 AM
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220. Oops.
"New York City's DNA lab has done such speedy tests for very rare high-priority cases, said Robert Shaler, director of the department of forensic biology in the office of the city's chief medical examiner.

"'If you have a single sample and you stop everything else you're doing, you can get it done,' he said. That would occur, for example, if police have arrested a suspect and can hold him only temporarily unless DNA matches him to a serious crime, he said.

"'I'm not surprised' by reports that Saddam had been identified through DNA less than 24 hours after his capture, Shaler said Sunday."
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  -Congressman says capture may have been staged to help Bush!! Manix  Dec-16-03 01:14 AM   #0 
  - I think that would be Mc Dermott  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-16-03 01:15 AM   #1 
  - Or to get Dean off the newsmag covers.  Jim Sagle   Dec-16-03 01:21 AM   #2 
  - ...or both!  0007   Dec-16-03 05:16 AM   #33 
     - And also to upstage Wes Clark in The Hague  jumptheshadow   Dec-16-03 01:18 PM   #109 
  - here's a story....and a link...from Newsday  cthrumatrix   Dec-16-03 04:50 AM   #28 
  - I agree with McDermott completely!  tom_paine   Dec-16-03 11:05 AM   #76 
     - How is it that Saddam was jammed in a hole  realpolitik   Dec-17-03 01:29 AM   #158 
  - Exactly, what's up with the Halliburton probe?  sfg25   Dec-17-03 01:13 AM   #157 
     - Bloomberg news says that Pentagon comptroller says the  ignatius   Dec-17-03 11:58 AM   #171 
        - I like their version of a balanced budget too  nolabels   Dec-17-03 12:13 PM   #173 
  - wouldn't doubt it for one second  dwickham   Dec-16-03 01:22 AM   #3 
  - It was the first thing I thought.  ronnykmarshall   Dec-16-03 11:35 AM   #84 
  - Here's one article  Tinoire   Dec-16-03 01:23 AM   #4 
  - Republican Congressman Ray LaHood knew 2 weeks ago!  arcane1   Dec-16-03 01:24 AM   #5 
  - exactly...BUT that would take the press to point out the OBVIOUS  cthrumatrix   Dec-16-03 04:53 AM   #30 
  - Yes! And who was the US general that predicted last fall that we'd have,  0007   Dec-16-03 05:22 AM   #34 
  - The benefit of predictions. . . .  Tansy_Gold   Dec-16-03 10:01 AM   #69 
  - The Republicans have been saying that for a long time.  freethought23   Dec-16-03 12:50 PM   #105 
  - Or when Osama is "suprisingly"....  Blade   Dec-16-03 01:25 AM   #6 
  - damn hard to find a 6'8" arab on a mule hooked up to a dialysis machine?  kodi   Dec-16-03 01:28 AM   #7 
     - OMG!  PennyLane   Dec-18-03 03:35 AM   #200 
  - GOP criticizes McDermott over Saddam comments  Tinoire   Dec-16-03 01:29 AM   #8 
  - "Democrats are distancing themselves."  freethought23   Dec-16-03 01:34 AM   #9 
  - see my post  arcane1   Dec-16-03 01:38 AM   #12 
  - I guess Dems are either spineless or cranky. No in between.  Myra   Dec-16-03 01:46 AM   #14 
  - Agreed! He's my Representative and he is definitely  vidali   Dec-16-03 10:58 AM   #73 
  - It's baseless speculation.  freethought23   Dec-16-03 12:54 PM   #106 
     - Speculation - yes Baseless - don't think so. They have lied too often  54anickel   Dec-16-03 12:58 PM   #107 
  - Rush Limbaugh got a little cranky when he was exposed also, 'eh?  0007   Dec-16-03 05:26 AM   #36 
  - Great slideshow/audio presentation  freethought23   Dec-16-03 12:33 PM   #98 
  - If only you Dems could stick together and support each other.............  pink_poodle   Dec-16-03 09:40 AM   #65 
     - pink  matman00   Dec-16-03 08:46 PM   #142 
        - No. I'm neither Dem or Thug. I am here because I'm.................  pink_poodle   Dec-16-03 10:47 PM   #152 
  - Ohmygod. For those non-Seattlites, McDermott is our best congressperson.  Myra   Dec-16-03 01:37 AM   #10 
  - I wouldn' brag  zubeneshamali   Dec-16-03 06:31 AM   #41 
     - The work of the armed forces would be a bit easier if they  mbperrin   Dec-16-03 07:13 AM   #49 
     - Bush said before the war that Saddam could step down if he chose  arcane1   Dec-16-03 11:17 AM   #78 
     - Jim trivializes NOTHING about the armed forces!  party_line   Dec-16-03 08:40 AM   #57 
     - that is not to your credit  vidali   Dec-16-03 11:12 AM   #77 
  - Holy moly! Does he have more than a hunch? (n/t)  w4rma   Dec-16-03 01:37 AM   #11 
  - No. He says he doesn't "know" this.  freethought23   Dec-16-03 12:39 PM   #102 
     - if everything said about THIS incident is true  arcane1   Dec-16-03 02:07 PM   #115 
        - That's not good enough.  freethought23   Dec-16-03 02:17 PM   #117 
           - suspicion, not proof  arcane1   Dec-16-03 04:29 PM   #124 
              - Again, those are inductive grounds for suspicion, but they are not proof.  freethought23   Dec-17-03 01:38 AM   #159 
              - Look, this is how it works  WhereIsMyFreedom   Dec-17-03 04:44 PM   #188 
  - I had that thought before it even happened! n/t  holyrollerdem   Dec-16-03 01:41 AM   #13 
  - that's sort of been one of my theories...  Triana   Dec-16-03 01:47 AM   #15 
  - Tiny correction  Zhade   Dec-16-03 03:40 AM   #21 
  - Hey! I had your back lol  Tinoire   Dec-16-03 09:18 AM   #61 
     - thanks for having my back...  Triana   Dec-16-03 12:07 PM   #91 
        - THAT is a classic!  Tinoire   Dec-16-03 02:32 PM   #120 
  - I'm finding it ever harder to dislike McDermott.  JailBush   Dec-16-03 01:49 AM   #16 
  - McDermott is consistantly excellent  CWebster   Dec-16-03 06:14 AM   #40 
  - Great, but.......  tkmorris   Dec-16-03 03:19 AM   #17 
  - I'll have to read his exact words again, but I have no problem  JailBush   Dec-16-03 03:25 AM   #19 
  - It doesn't really matter.  demconfive   Dec-16-03 03:42 AM   #23 
  - I agree with you  tkmorris   Dec-16-03 03:47 AM   #24 
     - Not to mention, parts of the official story are demonstrably false; e.g.  Vitruvius   Dec-16-03 05:27 AM   #37 
        - additionally - the before-and-after shots  Tuttle   Dec-16-03 06:42 AM   #43 
        - The 1st thing my DH said...  cass71898   Dec-16-03 12:33 PM   #99 
           - How long does it take to grow a beard like that?  elbayl   Dec-16-03 10:11 PM   #150 
        - WH/Downing St. inside joke  Snazzy   Dec-16-03 10:31 PM   #151 
        - Oops.  kellyj   Dec-23-03 10:34 AM   #220 
  - Why do we need evidence but the repukes never do?  nannygoat   Dec-16-03 12:05 PM   #90 
  - Kick!  Matilda   Dec-16-03 03:19 AM   #18 
  - Believe it too  Kerridwyn   Dec-16-03 03:39 AM   #20 
  - I tend to agree...  w13rd0   Dec-16-03 03:41 AM   #22 
  - playing the ace in the hole!  Snazzy   Dec-16-03 03:49 AM   #25 
  - Thank you, Snazzy! ! !  dbt   Dec-16-03 04:50 AM   #29 
     - Cheers  Snazzy   Dec-16-03 02:27 PM   #119 
  - I don't have any reason  joanski01   Dec-16-03 04:22 AM   #26 
  - Seems stupid to me if they did!  AnnitaR   Dec-16-03 04:44 AM   #27 
  - Why would they do this now?  dbt   Dec-16-03 04:57 AM   #32 
  - Yep, I think they wanted to keep him under wraps longer, but too  54anickel   Dec-16-03 10:30 AM   #70 
  - Osama's in cryogenic storage in an underground facility near Kandahar  Enraged_Ape   Dec-16-03 07:23 AM   #51 
  - .....the gipper may even be on ice or a life support system until,  0007   Dec-16-03 10:39 AM   #72 
  - Why now?  Wednesdays   Dec-16-03 09:33 AM   #63 
  - He backed off just a bit  sierra_moon   Dec-16-03 04:53 AM   #31 
  - Cynthia McKinney.................  DumpGump   Dec-16-03 05:22 AM   #35 
  - No way is he vulnerable like McKinney  sierra_moon   Dec-16-03 05:43 AM   #38 
  - ...this is the most cynical, manipulative administration..  Manix   Dec-16-03 05:44 AM   #39 
  - Sure got our minds off of Halliburton's 61 Megabuck rip-off, didn't it?  BiggJawn   Dec-16-03 06:32 AM   #42 
  - Perhaps this would explain the Bush* trip to Baghdad...  pbl   Dec-16-03 06:57 AM   #44 
  - Right. That's it.  TomNickell   Dec-16-03 07:07 AM   #46 
  - Whoa!  catzies   Dec-16-03 02:21 PM   #118 
  - Right on.  Dommael   Dec-16-03 03:17 PM   #122 
  - Nearly impossible.  TomNickell   Dec-16-03 07:06 AM   #45 
  - Are you kidding?  Tinoire   Dec-16-03 09:25 AM   #62 
  - Don't forget...  Hell Hath No Fury   Dec-17-03 06:58 PM   #191 
  - I'm more inclined to believe they had his hideout...  alg0912   Dec-16-03 01:22 PM   #111 
  - the Lynch rescue was peppered with lies and "color"  arcane1   Dec-16-03 02:10 PM   #116 
  - either that  alarimer   Dec-16-03 07:09 AM   #47 
  - i believe it....also american public swallows slop everyday from bushco  ElsewheresDaughter   Dec-16-03 07:09 AM   #48 
  - Every time Bush* is eager to give up details  pbl   Dec-16-03 07:14 AM   #50 
  - Saddam capture means trouble for USofficials  jmcgowanjm   Dec-16-03 08:19 AM   #55 
     - &BTW-Family tortured to reveal Saddam will not get $25 mil  jmcgowanjm   Dec-16-03 08:45 AM   #58 
  - Well it certainly put  dusty64   Dec-16-03 07:24 AM   #52 
  - Saddam was not captured, he was rescued  jmcgowanjm   Dec-16-03 08:12 AM   #53 
  - Here is what the story would have been out of Iraq..  RPG-7   Dec-16-03 08:18 AM   #54 
  - We have no presence/control in Fallujah,Ramadi, Samarra  jmcgowanjm   Dec-16-03 08:35 AM   #56 
     - CHECK OUT BUZZFLASH  Ivote   Dec-16-03 08:53 AM   #60 
  - Everything bush does should be questioned by dems this way  party_line   Dec-16-03 08:46 AM   #59 
  - This crossed my mind the exact moment I heard of the capture.............  pink_poodle   Dec-16-03 09:38 AM   #64 
  - Rocknation said that within two hours of getting the news!  rocknation   Dec-16-03 09:41 AM   #66 
  - We need to get behind this senator  Cheswick   Dec-16-03 09:44 AM   #67 
  - Hmmm, Not Everyone Buys McD's Line Of Thinking  BenFranklinUSA   Dec-16-03 10:33 AM   #71 
     - It appears that you may not...  Hell Hath No Fury   Dec-16-03 11:28 AM   #81 
        - Of course it was, every  bobbyboucher   Dec-16-03 11:41 AM   #85 
  - Timed so that Bush could go on tv just before NFL football...  milkyway   Dec-16-03 09:54 AM   #68 
  - Yep....  arlib   Dec-16-03 01:21 PM   #110 
  - Bush has no idea it was staged  jokerman2004   Dec-16-03 10:59 AM   #74 
  - agreed  CaptainClark23   Dec-16-03 07:46 PM   #136 
  - McDermott:  vidali   Dec-16-03 11:02 AM   #75 
  - Actually, he's right  Frangible   Dec-16-03 11:19 AM   #79 
  - Sometimes a seeming absurdity reveals a broader truth  Snellius   Dec-16-03 11:20 AM   #80 
  - Saddam's capture was staged to hurt Bush  DoYouEverWonder   Dec-16-03 11:31 AM   #82 
  - That surprised me too.  ozone_man   Dec-16-03 12:14 PM   #93 
  - That's why they floated the idea  DoYouEverWonder   Dec-16-03 12:36 PM   #101 
  - And I doubt that Saddam will ever see the inside of a court room.  RebelOne   Dec-23-03 11:32 AM   #222 
  - I agree, I thought he would be captured dead for sure  elbayl   Dec-16-03 10:08 PM   #148 
  - How to lose credibility and an election 101  zwade   Dec-16-03 11:34 AM   #83 
  - Keep spouting the company line  bobbyboucher   Dec-16-03 11:45 AM   #86 
  - Why you giving bush so much credit  zwade   Dec-16-03 12:02 PM   #89 
     - More of the same shit,  bobbyboucher   Dec-16-03 12:16 PM   #94 
        - One or the other  zwade   Dec-16-03 12:28 PM   #96 
           - Probably Iraqis, not the military, were holding SH. See post 82. (nt)  jono   Dec-16-03 01:31 PM   #114 
  - sounds like a repuke talking point  ElsewheresDaughter   Dec-16-03 12:27 PM   #95 
  - Yep.  arlib   Dec-16-03 01:27 PM   #113 
  - "How to lose credibility". . . "Prez Bush" eom  DemBones DemBones   Dec-16-03 12:34 PM   #100 
  - They had him on ice probably when this regime stated he wasn't important.  tlcandie   Dec-16-03 11:51 AM   #87 
  - Fake Jessica Lynch rescue...  chelaque liberal   Dec-16-03 11:51 AM   #88 
  - Stealth Patriot Act II enacted during Saddam's capture.....  tlcandie   Dec-16-03 12:09 PM   #92 
  - this makes the most sense  vidali   Dec-16-03 12:28 PM   #97 
  - I posted several links to that expanded stealth Patriot bill a few  54anickel   Dec-16-03 12:45 PM   #104 
  - We need an email campaign to get all the Dems onboard  nn2004   Dec-16-03 12:39 PM   #103 
  - We need people like this Congressman  Democat   Dec-16-03 01:10 PM   #108 
  - Send McDermott a "thank you" note  Barrett808   Dec-16-03 03:05 PM   #121 
  - I hope McDermott stays away from planes  GloriaSmith   Dec-16-03 01:23 PM   #112 
  - Of course, we may never know the truth,...  Just Me   Dec-16-03 03:25 PM   #123 
  - Not a bad idea  AlFrankenFan   Dec-16-03 05:27 PM   #125 
  - Don't get excited.  westman   Dec-16-03 05:58 PM   #126 
  - oh, well then, on your word alone  arcane1   Dec-16-03 06:08 PM   #127 
  - McDermott's blatherings  westman   Dec-16-03 06:13 PM   #128 
     - as opposed to your non-blather, your pearls of wisdom  thebigidea   Dec-16-03 06:30 PM   #131 
     - If this comment is representative  westman   Dec-16-03 07:47 PM   #137 
     - where is your foundation?  arcane1   Dec-16-03 06:39 PM   #133 
        - Due diligence  westman   Dec-16-03 07:34 PM   #135 
           - wouldn't your same standard apply...  arcane1   Dec-16-03 08:14 PM   #138 
              - I would suggest  westman   Dec-16-03 08:45 PM   #141 
                 - In real life, for A to imply B  RainDog   Dec-16-03 10:10 PM   #149 
                 - Illegal invasion?  westman   Dec-16-03 10:49 PM   #153 
                    - get informed  RainDog   Dec-16-03 11:30 PM   #154 
                       - I shake my head as I leave this thread.  westman   Dec-17-03 07:54 AM   #162 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-17-03 03:03 PM   #184 
                          - I wave my hand as you leave this thread  RainDog   Dec-17-03 04:43 PM   #187 
                             - My comments stand  westman   Dec-17-03 05:03 PM   #189 
                                - If you will be working to prevent another '72, then  TruthIsAll   Dec-17-03 09:03 PM   #196 
                                   - Us? I am us (or someting like that).  westman   Dec-18-03 12:02 PM   #205 
                 - Let me assist you with your study of logic  WhereIsMyFreedom   Dec-17-03 05:17 PM   #190 
                 - Precisely!  westman   Dec-17-03 07:06 PM   #192 
                    - In the real world  WhereIsMyFreedom   Dec-18-03 02:28 AM   #198 
                       - Spoken like a true Bayesian!  westman   Dec-18-03 11:57 AM   #203 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-17-03 08:53 PM   #195 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-17-03 10:00 PM   #197 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-16-03 06:28 PM   #130 
     - Presenting an opinion different  westman   Dec-16-03 07:31 PM   #134 
        - you've contributed nothing to the thread..  arcane1   Dec-16-03 08:18 PM   #139 
           - One cannot "discredit"  westman   Dec-16-03 08:50 PM   #143 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-16-03 09:04 PM   #144 
              - Belief implies  westman   Dec-16-03 09:13 PM   #145 
                 - His claims may be unsubstantiated regarding THIS STORY AT THIS TIME  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-16-03 09:16 PM   #146 
                 - Are you willing to believe him on this issue?  westman   Dec-16-03 09:19 PM   #147 
                    - You just answered a question with a question  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-17-03 02:20 AM   #161 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-17-03 08:22 AM   #166 
                       - So then you have no evidence simply an opinion  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-17-03 11:16 AM   #169 
                          - ...and Al Gore MAY have taken money from the Buddhists.  westman   Dec-17-03 11:20 AM   #170 
                             - It does? Funny, all those accusations that were unfounded against  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-17-03 12:03 PM   #172 
                                - So, are you saying that  westman   Dec-17-03 12:21 PM   #174 
                                   - No I didn't say that..I simply rebutted the point you failed to make  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-17-03 01:17 PM   #175 
                                      - McDermott proves my assertion  westman   Dec-17-03 01:41 PM   #177 
                                         - He said MAY HAVE and if you have a record, then the burden is on you to  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-17-03 01:52 PM   #180 
                                            - Your comments  westman   Dec-17-03 01:58 PM   #181 
                                            - How so? Again the burden is on you.  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-17-03 02:06 PM   #182 
                                            - Your comments and mine both stand.  westman   Dec-17-03 04:05 PM   #186 
                    - Are you willing to face the truth with facts Mr. westman?  0007   Dec-17-03 08:04 AM   #163 
                       - Number one,  westman   Dec-17-03 08:17 AM   #164 
                       - Why change the subject we're talking about this vidio  0007   Dec-18-03 02:25 PM   #210 
                          - I, too, am talking about the video.  westman   Dec-18-03 03:17 PM   #214 
                             - The video is showing you the truth in Bush's own words -  0007   Dec-18-03 04:04 PM   #216 
                                - Hi 0007!  westman   Dec-18-03 06:11 PM   #217 
                       - By the way,  westman   Dec-17-03 01:49 PM   #179 
                 - Well, would you believe this guy? He's a republican:  cat_girl25   Dec-16-03 11:47 PM   #155 
                 - Your point?  westman   Dec-17-03 08:18 AM   #165 
                 - three points  Design8edGrouch   Dec-17-03 09:04 AM   #167 
              - you are making no sense at all  arcane1   Dec-17-03 01:27 PM   #176 
                 - Fine...  westman   Dec-17-03 01:42 PM   #178 
  - Given the staged productions we have become accustumed to  Marianne   Dec-16-03 06:25 PM   #129 
  - Yah, this was presented right before the NFL games.....Yep, staged!!!!!  goforit   Dec-16-03 06:38 PM   #132 
  - You have got to love Jim!  cqhayes   Dec-16-03 08:20 PM   #140 
  - Check out riverbend blog  wabeewoman   Dec-17-03 01:03 AM   #156 
  - DNA testing  sheeeeeesh   Dec-17-03 01:53 AM   #160 
  - Other than stirring up a hornets nest, Saddams capture does nothing  nolabels   Dec-17-03 10:46 AM   #168 
  - I can buy the first part but then they start spinning like tops  DoYouEverWonder   Dec-17-03 03:16 PM   #185 
     - After all he was thier puppet, In what ever stroke of luck that he .......  nolabels   Dec-18-03 03:25 AM   #199 
  - McDermott has been consistently right about the neofascists.  govegan   Dec-17-03 02:29 PM   #183 
  - Some would say that OUR troops did NOT find Saddam ...  tlcandie   Dec-17-03 07:14 PM   #193 
  - The PUK had a mighty fine ax to grind for that guy  nolabels   Dec-18-03 03:49 AM   #201 
  - Let's recap...  SmokeyBlues   Dec-17-03 08:36 PM   #194 
  - Great recap Smokey! . . .  TeeYiYi   Dec-18-03 04:16 AM   #202 
     - You got it! -eom  SmokeyBlues   Dec-18-03 06:41 PM   #219 
  - Oh, Gee. Ya Think??  bushisanidiot   Dec-18-03 12:01 PM   #204 
  - Schwarzenegger helped them  LiberalFighter   Dec-18-03 01:27 PM   #209 
  - And of course the right is "shocked and appalled..."  RUFUS_T_FIREFLY   Dec-18-03 12:23 PM   #206 
  - Fascinating Asia Times article  Danieljay   Dec-18-03 12:37 PM   #207 
  - Great article - takes a little time to go through it,  0007   Dec-18-03 01:19 PM   #208 
  - Even this excellent summary only scratches the surface  Barrett808   Dec-18-03 02:39 PM   #211 
  - Another keeper  nolabels   Dec-18-03 02:54 PM   #212 
  - My files are so disorganized!  0007   Dec-18-03 03:03 PM   #213 
  - that's bogus, McDermott's a fool  radical_dem   Dec-18-03 03:44 PM   #215 
  - Have to disagree with that radical remark *radical*_dem  Myra   Dec-18-03 06:23 PM   #218 
  - Any doubt at all ?  bearfan454   Dec-23-03 11:19 AM   #221 
 

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