| 38. No way is he vulnerable like McKinney |
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McDermott relishes these confrontations. He knows he is right and will be proved right, as he has in the past.
The emperor has no clothes, and McD knows it, and says it.
His critics last year who excoriated him for saying that Bush would deceive the American public in order to wage war in Iraq looked pretty stupid in retrospect.
McD is just fine.
s_m
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| -Congressman says capture may have been staged to help Bush!! |
Manix |
Dec-16-03 01:14 AM |
#0 |
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I think that would be Mc Dermott |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Dec-16-03 01:15 AM |
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Or to get Dean off the newsmag covers. |
Jim Sagle |
Dec-16-03 01:21 AM |
#2 |
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...or both! |
0007 |
Dec-16-03 05:16 AM |
#33 |
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And also to upstage Wes Clark in The Hague |
jumptheshadow |
Dec-16-03 01:18 PM |
#109 |
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here's a story....and a link...from Newsday |
cthrumatrix |
Dec-16-03 04:50 AM |
#28 |
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I agree with McDermott completely! |
tom_paine |
Dec-16-03 11:05 AM |
#76 |
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How is it that Saddam was jammed in a hole |
realpolitik |
Dec-17-03 01:29 AM |
#158 |
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Exactly, what's up with the Halliburton probe? |
sfg25 |
Dec-17-03 01:13 AM |
#157 |
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Bloomberg news says that Pentagon comptroller says the |
ignatius |
Dec-17-03 11:58 AM |
#171 |
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I like their version of a balanced budget too |
nolabels |
Dec-17-03 12:13 PM |
#173 |
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wouldn't doubt it for one second |
dwickham |
Dec-16-03 01:22 AM |
#3 |
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It was the first thing I thought. |
ronnykmarshall |
Dec-16-03 11:35 AM |
#84 |
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Here's one article |
Tinoire |
Dec-16-03 01:23 AM |
#4 |
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Republican Congressman Ray LaHood knew 2 weeks ago! |
arcane1 |
Dec-16-03 01:24 AM |
#5 |
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exactly...BUT that would take the press to point out the OBVIOUS |
cthrumatrix |
Dec-16-03 04:53 AM |
#30 |
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Yes! And who was the US general that predicted last fall that we'd have, |
0007 |
Dec-16-03 05:22 AM |
#34 |
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The benefit of predictions. . . . |
Tansy_Gold |
Dec-16-03 10:01 AM |
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The Republicans have been saying that for a long time. |
freethought23 |
Dec-16-03 12:50 PM |
#105 |
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Or when Osama is "suprisingly".... |
Blade |
Dec-16-03 01:25 AM |
#6 |
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damn hard to find a 6'8" arab on a mule hooked up to a dialysis machine? |
kodi |
Dec-16-03 01:28 AM |
#7 |
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OMG! |
PennyLane |
Dec-18-03 03:35 AM |
#200 |
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GOP criticizes McDermott over Saddam comments |
Tinoire |
Dec-16-03 01:29 AM |
#8 |
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"Democrats are distancing themselves." |
freethought23 |
Dec-16-03 01:34 AM |
#9 |
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see my post |
arcane1 |
Dec-16-03 01:38 AM |
#12 |
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I guess Dems are either spineless or cranky. No in between. |
Myra |
Dec-16-03 01:46 AM |
#14 |
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Agreed! He's my Representative and he is definitely |
vidali |
Dec-16-03 10:58 AM |
#73 |
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It's baseless speculation. |
freethought23 |
Dec-16-03 12:54 PM |
#106 |
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Speculation - yes Baseless - don't think so. They have lied too often |
54anickel |
Dec-16-03 12:58 PM |
#107 |
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Rush Limbaugh got a little cranky when he was exposed also, 'eh? |
0007 |
Dec-16-03 05:26 AM |
#36 |
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Great slideshow/audio presentation |
freethought23 |
Dec-16-03 12:33 PM |
#98 |
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If only you Dems could stick together and support each other............. |
pink_poodle |
Dec-16-03 09:40 AM |
#65 |
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pink |
matman00 |
Dec-16-03 08:46 PM |
#142 |
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No. I'm neither Dem or Thug. I am here because I'm................. |
pink_poodle |
Dec-16-03 10:47 PM |
#152 |
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Ohmygod. For those non-Seattlites, McDermott is our best congressperson. |
Myra |
Dec-16-03 01:37 AM |
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I wouldn' brag |
zubeneshamali |
Dec-16-03 06:31 AM |
#41 |
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The work of the armed forces would be a bit easier if they |
mbperrin |
Dec-16-03 07:13 AM |
#49 |
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Bush said before the war that Saddam could step down if he chose |
arcane1 |
Dec-16-03 11:17 AM |
#78 |
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Jim trivializes NOTHING about the armed forces! |
party_line |
Dec-16-03 08:40 AM |
#57 |
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that is not to your credit |
vidali |
Dec-16-03 11:12 AM |
#77 |
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Holy moly! Does he have more than a hunch? (n/t) |
w4rma |
Dec-16-03 01:37 AM |
#11 |
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No. He says he doesn't "know" this. |
freethought23 |
Dec-16-03 12:39 PM |
#102 |
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if everything said about THIS incident is true |
arcane1 |
Dec-16-03 02:07 PM |
#115 |
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That's not good enough. |
freethought23 |
Dec-16-03 02:17 PM |
#117 |
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suspicion, not proof |
arcane1 |
Dec-16-03 04:29 PM |
#124 |
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Again, those are inductive grounds for suspicion, but they are not proof. |
freethought23 |
Dec-17-03 01:38 AM |
#159 |
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Look, this is how it works |
WhereIsMyFreedom |
Dec-17-03 04:44 PM |
#188 |
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I had that thought before it even happened! n/t |
holyrollerdem |
Dec-16-03 01:41 AM |
#13 |
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that's sort of been one of my theories... |
Triana |
Dec-16-03 01:47 AM |
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Tiny correction |
Zhade |
Dec-16-03 03:40 AM |
#21 |
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Hey! I had your back lol |
Tinoire |
Dec-16-03 09:18 AM |
#61 |
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thanks for having my back... |
Triana |
Dec-16-03 12:07 PM |
#91 |
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THAT is a classic! |
Tinoire |
Dec-16-03 02:32 PM |
#120 |
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I'm finding it ever harder to dislike McDermott. |
JailBush |
Dec-16-03 01:49 AM |
#16 |
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McDermott is consistantly excellent |
CWebster |
Dec-16-03 06:14 AM |
#40 |
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Great, but....... |
tkmorris |
Dec-16-03 03:19 AM |
#17 |
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I'll have to read his exact words again, but I have no problem |
JailBush |
Dec-16-03 03:25 AM |
#19 |
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It doesn't really matter. |
demconfive |
Dec-16-03 03:42 AM |
#23 |
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I agree with you |
tkmorris |
Dec-16-03 03:47 AM |
#24 |
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Not to mention, parts of the official story are demonstrably false; e.g. |
Vitruvius |
Dec-16-03 05:27 AM |
#37 |
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additionally - the before-and-after shots |
Tuttle |
Dec-16-03 06:42 AM |
#43 |
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The 1st thing my DH said... |
cass71898 |
Dec-16-03 12:33 PM |
#99 |
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How long does it take to grow a beard like that? |
elbayl |
Dec-16-03 10:11 PM |
#150 |
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WH/Downing St. inside joke |
Snazzy |
Dec-16-03 10:31 PM |
#151 |
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Oops. |
kellyj |
Dec-23-03 10:34 AM |
#220 |
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Why do we need evidence but the repukes never do? |
nannygoat |
Dec-16-03 12:05 PM |
#90 |
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Kick! |
Matilda |
Dec-16-03 03:19 AM |
#18 |
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Believe it too |
Kerridwyn |
Dec-16-03 03:39 AM |
#20 |
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I tend to agree... |
w13rd0 |
Dec-16-03 03:41 AM |
#22 |
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playing the ace in the hole! |
Snazzy |
Dec-16-03 03:49 AM |
#25 |
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Thank you, Snazzy! ! ! |
dbt |
Dec-16-03 04:50 AM |
#29 |
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Cheers |
Snazzy |
Dec-16-03 02:27 PM |
#119 |
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I don't have any reason |
joanski01 |
Dec-16-03 04:22 AM |
#26 |
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Seems stupid to me if they did! |
AnnitaR |
Dec-16-03 04:44 AM |
#27 |
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Why would they do this now? |
dbt |
Dec-16-03 04:57 AM |
#32 |
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Yep, I think they wanted to keep him under wraps longer, but too |
54anickel |
Dec-16-03 10:30 AM |
#70 |
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Osama's in cryogenic storage in an underground facility near Kandahar |
Enraged_Ape |
Dec-16-03 07:23 AM |
#51 |
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.....the gipper may even be on ice or a life support system until, |
0007 |
Dec-16-03 10:39 AM |
#72 |
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Why now? |
Wednesdays |
Dec-16-03 09:33 AM |
#63 |
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He backed off just a bit |
sierra_moon |
Dec-16-03 04:53 AM |
#31 |
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Cynthia McKinney................. |
DumpGump |
Dec-16-03 05:22 AM |
#35 |
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No way is he vulnerable like McKinney |
sierra_moon |
Dec-16-03 05:43 AM |
#38 |
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...this is the most cynical, manipulative administration.. |
Manix |
Dec-16-03 05:44 AM |
#39 |
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Sure got our minds off of Halliburton's 61 Megabuck rip-off, didn't it? |
BiggJawn |
Dec-16-03 06:32 AM |
#42 |
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Perhaps this would explain the Bush* trip to Baghdad... |
pbl |
Dec-16-03 06:57 AM |
#44 |
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Right. That's it. |
TomNickell |
Dec-16-03 07:07 AM |
#46 |
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Whoa! |
catzies |
Dec-16-03 02:21 PM |
#118 |
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Right on. |
Dommael |
Dec-16-03 03:17 PM |
#122 |
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Nearly impossible. |
TomNickell |
Dec-16-03 07:06 AM |
#45 |
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Are you kidding? |
Tinoire |
Dec-16-03 09:25 AM |
#62 |
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Don't forget... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Dec-17-03 06:58 PM |
#191 |
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I'm more inclined to believe they had his hideout... |
alg0912 |
Dec-16-03 01:22 PM |
#111 |
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the Lynch rescue was peppered with lies and "color" |
arcane1 |
Dec-16-03 02:10 PM |
#116 |
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either that |
alarimer |
Dec-16-03 07:09 AM |
#47 |
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i believe it....also american public swallows slop everyday from bushco |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Dec-16-03 07:09 AM |
#48 |
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Every time Bush* is eager to give up details |
pbl |
Dec-16-03 07:14 AM |
#50 |
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Saddam capture means trouble for USofficials |
jmcgowanjm |
Dec-16-03 08:19 AM |
#55 |
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&BTW-Family tortured to reveal Saddam will not get $25 mil |
jmcgowanjm |
Dec-16-03 08:45 AM |
#58 |
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Well it certainly put |
dusty64 |
Dec-16-03 07:24 AM |
#52 |
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Saddam was not captured, he was rescued |
jmcgowanjm |
Dec-16-03 08:12 AM |
#53 |
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Here is what the story would have been out of Iraq.. |
RPG-7 |
Dec-16-03 08:18 AM |
#54 |
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We have no presence/control in Fallujah,Ramadi, Samarra |
jmcgowanjm |
Dec-16-03 08:35 AM |
#56 |
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CHECK OUT BUZZFLASH |
Ivote |
Dec-16-03 08:53 AM |
#60 |
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Everything bush does should be questioned by dems this way |
party_line |
Dec-16-03 08:46 AM |
#59 |
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This crossed my mind the exact moment I heard of the capture............. |
pink_poodle |
Dec-16-03 09:38 AM |
#64 |
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Rocknation said that within two hours of getting the news! |
rocknation |
Dec-16-03 09:41 AM |
#66 |
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We need to get behind this senator |
Cheswick |
Dec-16-03 09:44 AM |
#67 |
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Hmmm, Not Everyone Buys McD's Line Of Thinking |
BenFranklinUSA |
Dec-16-03 10:33 AM |
#71 |
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It appears that you may not... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Dec-16-03 11:28 AM |
#81 |
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Of course it was, every |
bobbyboucher |
Dec-16-03 11:41 AM |
#85 |
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Timed so that Bush could go on tv just before NFL football... |
milkyway |
Dec-16-03 09:54 AM |
#68 |
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Yep.... |
arlib |
Dec-16-03 01:21 PM |
#110 |
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Bush has no idea it was staged |
jokerman2004 |
Dec-16-03 10:59 AM |
#74 |
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agreed |
CaptainClark23 |
Dec-16-03 07:46 PM |
#136 |
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McDermott: |
vidali |
Dec-16-03 11:02 AM |
#75 |
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Actually, he's right |
Frangible |
Dec-16-03 11:19 AM |
#79 |
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Sometimes a seeming absurdity reveals a broader truth |
Snellius |
Dec-16-03 11:20 AM |
#80 |
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Saddam's capture was staged to hurt Bush |
DoYouEverWonder |
Dec-16-03 11:31 AM |
#82 |
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That surprised me too. |
ozone_man |
Dec-16-03 12:14 PM |
#93 |
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That's why they floated the idea |
DoYouEverWonder |
Dec-16-03 12:36 PM |
#101 |
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And I doubt that Saddam will ever see the inside of a court room. |
RebelOne |
Dec-23-03 11:32 AM |
#222 |
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I agree, I thought he would be captured dead for sure |
elbayl |
Dec-16-03 10:08 PM |
#148 |
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How to lose credibility and an election 101 |
zwade |
Dec-16-03 11:34 AM |
#83 |
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Keep spouting the company line |
bobbyboucher |
Dec-16-03 11:45 AM |
#86 |
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Why you giving bush so much credit |
zwade |
Dec-16-03 12:02 PM |
#89 |
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More of the same shit, |
bobbyboucher |
Dec-16-03 12:16 PM |
#94 |
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One or the other |
zwade |
Dec-16-03 12:28 PM |
#96 |
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Probably Iraqis, not the military, were holding SH. See post 82. (nt) |
jono |
Dec-16-03 01:31 PM |
#114 |
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sounds like a repuke talking point |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Dec-16-03 12:27 PM |
#95 |
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Yep. |
arlib |
Dec-16-03 01:27 PM |
#113 |
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"How to lose credibility". . . "Prez Bush" eom |
DemBones DemBones |
Dec-16-03 12:34 PM |
#100 |
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They had him on ice probably when this regime stated he wasn't important. |
tlcandie |
Dec-16-03 11:51 AM |
#87 |
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Fake Jessica Lynch rescue... |
chelaque liberal |
Dec-16-03 11:51 AM |
#88 |
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Stealth Patriot Act II enacted during Saddam's capture..... |
tlcandie |
Dec-16-03 12:09 PM |
#92 |
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this makes the most sense |
vidali |
Dec-16-03 12:28 PM |
#97 |
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I posted several links to that expanded stealth Patriot bill a few |
54anickel |
Dec-16-03 12:45 PM |
#104 |
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We need an email campaign to get all the Dems onboard |
nn2004 |
Dec-16-03 12:39 PM |
#103 |
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We need people like this Congressman |
Democat |
Dec-16-03 01:10 PM |
#108 |
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Send McDermott a "thank you" note |
Barrett808 |
Dec-16-03 03:05 PM |
#121 |
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I hope McDermott stays away from planes |
GloriaSmith |
Dec-16-03 01:23 PM |
#112 |
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Of course, we may never know the truth,... |
Just Me |
Dec-16-03 03:25 PM |
#123 |
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Not a bad idea |
AlFrankenFan |
Dec-16-03 05:27 PM |
#125 |
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Don't get excited. |
westman |
Dec-16-03 05:58 PM |
#126 |
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oh, well then, on your word alone |
arcane1 |
Dec-16-03 06:08 PM |
#127 |
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McDermott's blatherings |
westman |
Dec-16-03 06:13 PM |
#128 |
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as opposed to your non-blather, your pearls of wisdom |
thebigidea |
Dec-16-03 06:30 PM |
#131 |
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If this comment is representative |
westman |
Dec-16-03 07:47 PM |
#137 |
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where is your foundation? |
arcane1 |
Dec-16-03 06:39 PM |
#133 |
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Due diligence |
westman |
Dec-16-03 07:34 PM |
#135 |
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wouldn't your same standard apply... |
arcane1 |
Dec-16-03 08:14 PM |
#138 |
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I would suggest |
westman |
Dec-16-03 08:45 PM |
#141 |
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In real life, for A to imply B |
RainDog |
Dec-16-03 10:10 PM |
#149 |
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Illegal invasion? |
westman |
Dec-16-03 10:49 PM |
#153 |
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get informed |
RainDog |
Dec-16-03 11:30 PM |
#154 |
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I shake my head as I leave this thread. |
westman |
Dec-17-03 07:54 AM |
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Dec-17-03 03:03 PM |
#184 |
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I wave my hand as you leave this thread |
RainDog |
Dec-17-03 04:43 PM |
#187 |
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My comments stand |
westman |
Dec-17-03 05:03 PM |
#189 |
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If you will be working to prevent another '72, then |
TruthIsAll |
Dec-17-03 09:03 PM |
#196 |
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Us? I am us (or someting like that). |
westman |
Dec-18-03 12:02 PM |
#205 |
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Let me assist you with your study of logic |
WhereIsMyFreedom |
Dec-17-03 05:17 PM |
#190 |
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Precisely! |
westman |
Dec-17-03 07:06 PM |
#192 |
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In the real world |
WhereIsMyFreedom |
Dec-18-03 02:28 AM |
#198 |
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Spoken like a true Bayesian! |
westman |
Dec-18-03 11:57 AM |
#203 |
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Dec-17-03 08:53 PM |
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Dec-17-03 10:00 PM |
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Dec-16-03 06:28 PM |
#130 |
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Presenting an opinion different |
westman |
Dec-16-03 07:31 PM |
#134 |
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you've contributed nothing to the thread.. |
arcane1 |
Dec-16-03 08:18 PM |
#139 |
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One cannot "discredit" |
westman |
Dec-16-03 08:50 PM |
#143 |
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Dec-16-03 09:04 PM |
#144 |
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Belief implies |
westman |
Dec-16-03 09:13 PM |
#145 |
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His claims may be unsubstantiated regarding THIS STORY AT THIS TIME |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Dec-16-03 09:16 PM |
#146 |
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Are you willing to believe him on this issue? |
westman |
Dec-16-03 09:19 PM |
#147 |
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You just answered a question with a question |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Dec-17-03 02:20 AM |
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Dec-17-03 08:22 AM |
#166 |
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So then you have no evidence simply an opinion |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Dec-17-03 11:16 AM |
#169 |
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...and Al Gore MAY have taken money from the Buddhists. |
westman |
Dec-17-03 11:20 AM |
#170 |
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It does? Funny, all those accusations that were unfounded against |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Dec-17-03 12:03 PM |
#172 |
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So, are you saying that |
westman |
Dec-17-03 12:21 PM |
#174 |
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No I didn't say that..I simply rebutted the point you failed to make |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Dec-17-03 01:17 PM |
#175 |
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McDermott proves my assertion |
westman |
Dec-17-03 01:41 PM |
#177 |
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He said MAY HAVE and if you have a record, then the burden is on you to |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Dec-17-03 01:52 PM |
#180 |
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Your comments |
westman |
Dec-17-03 01:58 PM |
#181 |
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How so? Again the burden is on you. |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Dec-17-03 02:06 PM |
#182 |
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Your comments and mine both stand. |
westman |
Dec-17-03 04:05 PM |
#186 |
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Are you willing to face the truth with facts Mr. westman? |
0007 |
Dec-17-03 08:04 AM |
#163 |
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Number one, |
westman |
Dec-17-03 08:17 AM |
#164 |
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Why change the subject we're talking about this vidio |
0007 |
Dec-18-03 02:25 PM |
#210 |
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I, too, am talking about the video. |
westman |
Dec-18-03 03:17 PM |
#214 |
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The video is showing you the truth in Bush's own words - |
0007 |
Dec-18-03 04:04 PM |
#216 |
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Hi 0007! |
westman |
Dec-18-03 06:11 PM |
#217 |
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By the way, |
westman |
Dec-17-03 01:49 PM |
#179 |
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Well, would you believe this guy? He's a republican: |
cat_girl25 |
Dec-16-03 11:47 PM |
#155 |
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Your point? |
westman |
Dec-17-03 08:18 AM |
#165 |
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three points |
Design8edGrouch |
Dec-17-03 09:04 AM |
#167 |
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you are making no sense at all |
arcane1 |
Dec-17-03 01:27 PM |
#176 |
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Fine... |
westman |
Dec-17-03 01:42 PM |
#178 |
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Given the staged productions we have become accustumed to |
Marianne |
Dec-16-03 06:25 PM |
#129 |
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Yah, this was presented right before the NFL games.....Yep, staged!!!!! |
goforit |
Dec-16-03 06:38 PM |
#132 |
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You have got to love Jim! |
cqhayes |
Dec-16-03 08:20 PM |
#140 |
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Check out riverbend blog |
wabeewoman |
Dec-17-03 01:03 AM |
#156 |
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DNA testing |
sheeeeeesh |
Dec-17-03 01:53 AM |
#160 |
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Other than stirring up a hornets nest, Saddams capture does nothing |
nolabels |
Dec-17-03 10:46 AM |
#168 |
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I can buy the first part but then they start spinning like tops |
DoYouEverWonder |
Dec-17-03 03:16 PM |
#185 |
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After all he was thier puppet, In what ever stroke of luck that he ....... |
nolabels |
Dec-18-03 03:25 AM |
#199 |
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McDermott has been consistently right about the neofascists. |
govegan |
Dec-17-03 02:29 PM |
#183 |
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Some would say that OUR troops did NOT find Saddam ... |
tlcandie |
Dec-17-03 07:14 PM |
#193 |
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The PUK had a mighty fine ax to grind for that guy |
nolabels |
Dec-18-03 03:49 AM |
#201 |
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Let's recap... |
SmokeyBlues |
Dec-17-03 08:36 PM |
#194 |
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Great recap Smokey! . . . |
TeeYiYi |
Dec-18-03 04:16 AM |
#202 |
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You got it! -eom |
SmokeyBlues |
Dec-18-03 06:41 PM |
#219 |
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Oh, Gee. Ya Think?? |
bushisanidiot |
Dec-18-03 12:01 PM |
#204 |
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Schwarzenegger helped them |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-18-03 01:27 PM |
#209 |
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And of course the right is "shocked and appalled..." |
RUFUS_T_FIREFLY |
Dec-18-03 12:23 PM |
#206 |
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Fascinating Asia Times article |
Danieljay |
Dec-18-03 12:37 PM |
#207 |
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Great article - takes a little time to go through it, |
0007 |
Dec-18-03 01:19 PM |
#208 |
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Even this excellent summary only scratches the surface |
Barrett808 |
Dec-18-03 02:39 PM |
#211 |
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Another keeper |
nolabels |
Dec-18-03 02:54 PM |
#212 |
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My files are so disorganized! |
0007 |
Dec-18-03 03:03 PM |
#213 |
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that's bogus, McDermott's a fool |
radical_dem |
Dec-18-03 03:44 PM |
#215 |
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Have to disagree with that radical remark *radical*_dem |
Myra |
Dec-18-03 06:23 PM |
#218 |
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Any doubt at all ? |
bearfan454 |
Dec-23-03 11:19 AM |
#221 |