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| -Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics |
jefferson_dem |
Jan-17-07 09:21 PM |
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perspective |
kristopher |
Jan-17-07 09:53 PM |
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Thanks for the info. That's helpful to know. |
jefferson_dem |
Jan-17-07 10:03 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-18-07 05:21 AM |
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Inhoff is a fox guarding the henhouse. |
vickitulsa |
Jan-18-07 12:55 AM |
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My but that certainly explains a LOT! |
Roland99 |
Jan-19-07 08:38 AM |
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Douchebags of Corporate Propoganda and a pocket full of coins |
Supersedeas |
Jan-19-07 02:24 PM |
#82 |
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Climate Code,eh? |
Party Line |
Jan-18-07 02:21 AM |
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I certainly hope so |
BushOut06 |
Jan-18-07 06:06 AM |
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Ya, and they should be thrown in the deepest darkest |
aceman2373 |
Jan-19-07 08:55 AM |
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Yeah, like anyone said that. |
Zhade |
Jan-19-07 02:59 PM |
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cast out the non-believers |
melm00se |
Jan-18-07 07:59 AM |
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For a meteorologist to deny global warming is like an M.D. |
Coventina |
Jan-18-07 08:14 AM |
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Nice straw man! |
hatrack |
Jan-18-07 09:02 AM |
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not really... |
melm00se |
Jan-18-07 10:27 AM |
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Keep propping them up |
Robbien |
Jan-18-07 11:08 AM |
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not at all |
melm00se |
Jan-18-07 11:42 AM |
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Good denier support post |
Robbien |
Jan-18-07 11:58 AM |
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Good suppression of opposing points-of-view post |
Psephos |
Jan-18-07 11:53 PM |
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Point out where she called for suppressing alternate arguments. |
Zhade |
Jan-19-07 03:13 PM |
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Acts of suppression do not require calling for suppression |
Psephos |
Jan-19-07 03:17 PM |
#92 |
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Calling out people for denying established fact in scientific debates... |
Zhade |
Jan-20-07 04:08 PM |
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what established fact? |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 05:13 PM |
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Okay, here's where I laugh at your grasp of science. |
Zhade |
Jan-20-07 10:05 PM |
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Circular reasoning. |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 10:46 PM |
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Link below |
Kber |
Jan-21-07 12:30 PM |
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Pretty link, but... |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-21-07 03:56 PM |
#160 |
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My boss doubts global warming is a serious effect |
krispos42 |
Jan-20-07 11:34 AM |
#124 |
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Global Warming "skeptics" SHOULD be ridiculed and minimized. |
Shakespeare |
Jan-19-07 06:35 PM |
#107 |
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Belief has nothing to do with it - science deals with fact, not belief. |
Zhade |
Jan-19-07 03:04 PM |
#87 |
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Hilarious! A little humor when the sky is falling..literally, LOL!!! |
goforit |
Jan-21-07 04:44 PM |
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I was waiting for this and wonder about the agenda for such a bizarre response. |
The Stranger |
Jan-22-07 08:32 AM |
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It's the language that poisons the debate. The phrase "believe in global warming" creates |
truthisfreedom |
Jan-18-07 09:08 AM |
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Exactly! |
dropkickpa |
Jan-18-07 09:41 AM |
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Not believing in global warming strikes me a bit like saying |
kestrel91316 |
Jan-18-07 05:17 PM |
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When most people hear "witches", though, they don't immediately think of people who practise Wicca. |
IntravenousDemilo |
Jan-19-07 02:32 PM |
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The question isn't whether or not to "believe" in global warming |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-19-07 08:26 AM |
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Thank you. It's not about belief at all - climate change exists. It's undeniable. |
Zhade |
Jan-19-07 03:07 PM |
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the critics have lost all credibility |
gasperc |
Jan-18-07 10:40 AM |
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Yeah, it's the |
zidzi |
Jan-18-07 11:53 AM |
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When did they have any? |
Zhade |
Jan-19-07 03:08 PM |
#89 |
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Wow!!!!111 |
jpak |
Jan-18-07 10:51 AM |
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Dangerous slope.. |
atomicdawg38 |
Jan-18-07 12:21 PM |
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Nobody is denying them the right to speak. |
Coventina |
Jan-18-07 01:29 PM |
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You took the words right off of my keyboard |
Lorien |
Jan-18-07 02:37 PM |
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Sure they are |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-19-07 08:29 AM |
#44 |
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Please provide links showing where the scientific community |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 09:49 AM |
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Please provide a response |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-19-07 03:23 PM |
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Okay then, about the "muzzling" issue, please see my post #85 |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 04:35 PM |
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That's your opinion. |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-19-07 05:26 PM |
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How is it "muzzling"? |
Coventina |
Jan-20-07 09:16 AM |
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Asked and answered. nt |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 11:03 AM |
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Indeed, they are still free to speak. n/t |
Coventina |
Jan-20-07 12:27 PM |
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In your opinion. nt |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 05:05 PM |
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WE will only completely understand the mechanism of climate |
PaulaFarrell |
Jan-20-07 01:34 PM |
#127 |
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I completely disagree with your premise |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 05:10 PM |
#133 |
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And I completely disagree with yours |
PaulaFarrell |
Jan-21-07 04:30 AM |
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Forecasters cannot predict a tornado? |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-21-07 07:17 AM |
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And I completely disagree with yours |
PaulaFarrell |
Jan-21-07 04:44 AM |
#148 |
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Actually those piles are in the same league |
depakid |
Jan-19-07 10:54 AM |
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Great! Can you explain... |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-19-07 03:26 PM |
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I believe that if you open your mind and your Google browser, you'll find |
Doremus |
Jan-19-07 09:52 PM |
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Things like "rate"and "acceleration" |
depakid |
Jan-20-07 12:12 AM |
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Assessments like "haven't had much science background" |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 08:17 AM |
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The point is: There is no debate. |
depakid |
Jan-20-07 06:44 PM |
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Given all WHAT evidence? |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 09:15 PM |
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Here's what you may need |
depakid |
Jan-21-07 09:57 AM |
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See my post #160 |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-21-07 04:06 PM |
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"...wasting my time reading" |
depakid |
Jan-21-07 06:18 PM |
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MOTSBS |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-22-07 07:41 AM |
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You have no case AND you refuse to read! |
depakid |
Jan-22-07 09:26 AM |
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Baseless accusation |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-23-07 09:14 PM |
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Good thing I didn't hold my breath. |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 08:22 AM |
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I do not think that scientists are denying global warming . . . |
toopers |
Jan-19-07 09:53 AM |
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There is no debate- not among scientists |
depakid |
Jan-21-07 11:12 AM |
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This is just not true. |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-21-07 04:09 PM |
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you asked why the earth went through a warming spell 400 years ago... |
WindRavenX |
Jan-21-07 04:19 PM |
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Finally, someone admits it on this thread |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-22-07 08:00 AM |
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you misunderstood me |
WindRavenX |
Jan-22-07 07:31 PM |
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99%? |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-23-07 09:28 PM |
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We know better... |
Chemical Bill |
Jan-18-07 01:29 PM |
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I'm not saying that |
atomicdawg38 |
Jan-18-07 01:49 PM |
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Science isn't something... |
Chemical Bill |
Jan-18-07 02:06 PM |
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Science has HAD their debate. It's over. |
crispini |
Jan-18-07 04:03 PM |
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Where the hell have you been? The debate is over. |
kestrel91316 |
Jan-18-07 05:19 PM |
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The debate is not over |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 10:59 AM |
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I read scientific journals |
NickB79 |
Jan-19-07 01:34 PM |
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Get ready for a long wait. |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 01:40 PM |
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You don't get it |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 02:19 PM |
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I have read that website before |
NickB79 |
Jan-20-07 04:27 AM |
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Disagree |
Nederland |
Jan-21-07 01:55 AM |
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They can dissent ALL THEY WANT. They just shouldn't expect a |
kestrel91316 |
Jan-18-07 05:18 PM |
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Is there any proof that the Weather Channel actually promotes this? |
yardwork |
Jan-18-07 01:03 PM |
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Who Cares? |
Red1 |
Jan-18-07 02:03 PM |
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Did you follow the link to the original comments? |
Taoschick |
Jan-20-07 02:32 PM |
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It's high time we had some accountability in this country |
depakid |
Jan-18-07 02:00 PM |
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The point is...even if pollution isn't causing warming, what's the harm in curbing emissions anyway? |
NoodleyAppendage |
Jan-18-07 03:50 PM |
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Woo-hoo! Someone with the same perspective |
ItNerd4life |
Jan-24-07 12:34 PM |
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The AccuWeather Effect... |
Junkdrawer |
Jan-18-07 04:41 PM |
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Stripped of their scientific certification if they express skepticism? |
lynne |
Jan-18-07 04:53 PM |
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There's a big difference between being a skeptic and a denier |
Coventina |
Jan-18-07 05:14 PM |
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The scientific community has not reached consensus about the cause |
Psephos |
Jan-19-07 12:10 AM |
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The issue of this thread has been global warming deniers |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 08:10 AM |
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If man is not the primary cause |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-19-07 08:36 AM |
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Um, if you have been reading any of the recent scientific findings |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 08:43 AM |
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I'm not stupid |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-19-07 03:29 PM |
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So what are you saying? |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 04:31 PM |
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It's true you never said I was stupid |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-19-07 05:30 PM |
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Volcanic and solar activity are what scientists have found |
Coventina |
Jan-20-07 09:29 AM |
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Nice try |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 11:03 AM |
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P.S. Comparing the LIA to current warming cycle |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 11:12 AM |
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You brought up the LIA in the first place! |
Coventina |
Jan-20-07 12:25 PM |
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No I didn't. I did not ever type: little ice age. nt |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-20-07 05:07 PM |
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Okay, I owe you an apology |
Coventina |
Jan-21-07 12:00 PM |
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Hey don't worry about it |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-22-07 08:04 AM |
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No. You're not stupid. You're just wrong. Dead wrong. |
Zhade |
Jan-20-07 10:20 PM |
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No one has proven anything...until now. |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-21-07 07:29 AM |
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"there is no action that can be taken"?! |
Nihil |
Jan-19-07 10:32 AM |
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Thank you. |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 10:47 AM |
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Calling others names makes your argument seem like it can't stand on its own |
Psephos |
Jan-19-07 01:52 PM |
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There is a difference between "stifling debate" and "allowing fraud". |
Nihil |
Jan-22-07 08:15 AM |
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Reading comprehension |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-19-07 03:34 PM |
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Comprehension also requires clarity in writing |
Nihil |
Jan-22-07 08:36 AM |
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Apology accepted, but not needed |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-23-07 09:48 PM |
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Thanks |
Nihil |
Jan-24-07 07:11 AM |
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Well said |
thinkingwoman |
Jan-19-07 08:33 AM |
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Vikings |
kristopher |
Jan-19-07 08:04 PM |
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It was called Greenland by Eric the Red to get gullible suckers to settle there. |
Odin2005 |
Jan-20-07 07:03 PM |
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Scientists are never wrong. |
fastfowardtheater1 |
Jan-18-07 05:42 PM |
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no, it's about them not being scientists |
WindRavenX |
Jan-18-07 07:42 PM |
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Response |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 10:29 AM |
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Unfortunately, politics have been injected by our government |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 10:50 AM |
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Question |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 10:55 AM |
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Here you go: |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 11:06 AM |
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The problem is |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 11:14 AM |
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The problem is, the people who are governing the world's biggest polluter |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 11:17 AM |
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You didn't answer the question |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 11:23 AM |
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In this particular instance, it is an AMS "Seal of Approval" |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 11:27 AM |
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Let me get this straight |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 11:33 AM |
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Who said anything about "silencing" them? |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 11:43 AM |
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you're not getting any links from that poster |
WindRavenX |
Jan-19-07 11:51 AM |
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I have no links |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 02:14 PM |
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I thought your point was that important voices were being silenced. |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 02:24 PM |
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No |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 02:35 PM |
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Well, it seems we are trying to compare apples & oranges |
Coventina |
Jan-19-07 02:49 PM |
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It sounds to me like what the poster is saying |
depakid |
Jan-19-07 11:47 AM |
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the AMS isn't going to silence anyone. |
Bill McBlueState |
Jan-19-07 10:07 PM |
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Scientific facts sifts them out |
SemperEadem |
Jan-19-07 05:14 PM |
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no, that's not at all what's being debated here |
SemperEadem |
Jan-19-07 05:11 PM |
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this isn't about people who publish |
Bill McBlueState |
Jan-19-07 10:05 PM |
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Please name one peer-reviewed study of the "Global Freeze" theory, as you call it |
hatrack |
Jan-18-07 07:26 PM |
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*Crickets chirping* |
hatrack |
Jan-19-07 08:34 AM |
#46 |
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Here you go |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 09:54 AM |
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Global dimming is real and somewhat ameliorates the effects of global warming |
Ezlivin |
Jan-19-07 10:52 AM |
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And if you actually read that report |
NickB79 |
Jan-19-07 01:41 PM |
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Got a link? |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 02:20 PM |
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From your own Wiki link above |
NickB79 |
Jan-20-07 04:34 AM |
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that link contains theories that are now ralmost completed rejected |
WindRavenX |
Jan-19-07 04:43 PM |
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No shit |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 05:15 PM |
#102 |
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predicting is not the same as having evidence |
WindRavenX |
Jan-19-07 05:18 PM |
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Read Post #38 |
Nederland |
Jan-21-07 01:58 AM |
#146 |
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Actually, I'm not |
WindRavenX |
Jan-21-07 01:08 PM |
#156 |
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wikpedia isn't exactly encylopedia brittanica |
SemperEadem |
Jan-19-07 05:18 PM |
#103 |
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Much like an aeronautical engineer |
LanternWaste |
Jan-24-07 10:46 AM |
#180 |
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This should be done in all fields of science. |
Seldona |
Jan-18-07 05:23 PM |
#36 |
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She's 100% right |
enough already |
Jan-19-07 10:12 AM |
#54 |
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Looks like she is backing off slightly |
Nederland |
Jan-19-07 10:37 AM |
#57 |
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That doesn't sound like backing off to me. |
Zhade |
Jan-19-07 03:11 PM |
#90 |
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More info on Marc Morano--the tool who posted this story. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-19-07 11:10 AM |
#65 |
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for all the trolls in this thread...there has not been free speech practiced here for |
NotGivingUp |
Jan-19-07 08:31 PM |
#109 |
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Recommendation for those interested in climate change: RealClimate.org |
darkblue |
Jan-20-07 09:45 AM |
#120 |
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why are you stifling skeptics? |
WindRavenX |
Jan-20-07 05:07 PM |
#131 |
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What the fuck? Everyone has the right to air skepticism... |
originalpckelly |
Jan-20-07 06:55 PM |
#136 |
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Only in America |
depakid |
Jan-20-07 07:07 PM |
#138 |
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The Denialists use anti-science Postmodernist rhetoric to fool people. |
Odin2005 |
Jan-20-07 07:12 PM |
#139 |
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yeah, that was a great post btw |
WindRavenX |
Jan-20-07 08:17 PM |
#140 |
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If you're not a scientist but a lobbyist, |
tabasco |
Jan-21-07 07:57 AM |
#151 |
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This thread has become a joke. |
WindRavenX |
Jan-21-07 01:13 PM |
#157 |
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You can say that again. |
Coventina |
Jan-21-07 01:20 PM |
#158 |
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it's the same horseshit with evolution |
WindRavenX |
Jan-21-07 01:26 PM |
#159 |
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"Climate Code" on now |
vireo |
Jan-21-07 04:42 PM |
#164 |
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Wind talker code breaker |
ohio2007 |
Jan-22-07 08:37 AM |
#173 |
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