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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 07:27 PM
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70. I'm saying if we are serious about stopping poverty...
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 07:29 PM by Idioteque
...we should either subsidize low skilled wages or directly give the working poor money through a negative income tax.

We shouldn't put the burden on small business owners to pay low skilled workers more than the market says they are worth. It will only increase unemployment of low skilled workers or force firms to raise prices.

Oh and people my age (18 years old) who only work for spending money and live off checks from mom and dad don't deserve an artificial, government set, raise.
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  -Breaking CNN: House passes minimum wage raise 315 - 116. Fridays Child  Jan-10-07 04:12 PM   #0 
  - Wheeeeeeeeeeee ! ! !  proud patriot   Jan-10-07 04:13 PM   #1 
  - Excellent!  Whoa_Nelly   Jan-10-07 04:13 PM   #2 
  - I hope roll is called in the Senate....  Aviation Pro   Jan-10-07 04:14 PM   #3 
  - Bush is gonna veto anything without tax breaks for his corporate cronies, sadly  nodehopper   Jan-10-07 05:48 PM   #53 
     - It's unlikely that he will veto this one  tavalon   Jan-11-07 03:31 AM   #93 
        - The House vote looks bulletproof.  trogdor   Jan-11-07 08:08 AM   #96 
        - I remember him saying  nodehopper   Jan-11-07 10:02 PM   #111 
  - Good job, Dems! nt  babylonsister   Jan-10-07 04:14 PM   #4 
  - Who were the 116 who voted no?  paxmusa   Jan-10-07 04:14 PM   #5 
  - All republicons, I betcha.  cat_girl25   Jan-10-07 04:17 PM   #10 
  - Yep!  nickyt   Jan-10-07 04:19 PM   #14 
  - Is there a way to find out the names of the 116?  paxmusa   Jan-10-07 04:22 PM   #20 
  - Yes, all repub-licks  phiddle   Jan-10-07 04:22 PM   #23 
  - And just thinks, Amurikkkans just recently voted to return all these sons-of-bitches to office  indepat   Jan-10-07 06:13 PM   #57 
  - Easier to get reelected...  trogdor   Jan-11-07 08:09 AM   #97 
     - I see our (already) endangered Colorado R's  HawkeyeX   Jan-11-07 01:33 PM   #103 
  - Thanks!  paxmusa   Jan-10-07 06:26 PM   #59 
  - Repukes, every single one of 'em! No Dems voted NO.  NYC Liberal   Jan-10-07 05:51 PM   #54 
  - It's about f***ing time!!! YAHOO!  LSparkle   Jan-10-07 04:15 PM   #6 
  - Not bad at all  KingFlorez   Jan-10-07 04:16 PM   #7 
  - LONG Over due!!!  LiberalinNC   Jan-10-07 04:16 PM   #8 
  - This is a good thing  MistressOverdone   Jan-10-07 04:16 PM   #9 
  - Yes it is  Der Blaue Engel   Jan-10-07 04:19 PM   #15 
  - Welcome to DU!  Fridays Child   Jan-10-07 04:19 PM   #17 
  - welcome mistress  SoFlaJet   Jan-10-07 04:20 PM   #18 
  - Welcome!  jarab   Jan-10-07 04:47 PM   #40 
  - That's good news. I wonder if Congress has to wait two years for  valerief   Jan-10-07 04:17 PM   #11 
  - Hmm....that looks vaguely familiar to me.....is that.....gosh.....um....er  shance   Jan-10-07 04:17 PM   #12 
  - Nancy was up there  SoFlaJet   Jan-10-07 04:18 PM   #13 
  - Mrs. Pelosi is fulfilling campaign promises...pronto!  Graybeard   Jan-10-07 04:33 PM   #31 
  - I want to see investment income taxed at the same rate as wages and salaried income  WatchWhatISay   Jan-10-07 04:19 PM   #16 
  - Wouldn't that mean you'd be taxed repeatedly  ScreamingWhisper   Jan-10-07 04:25 PM   #25 
  - You arent taxed again on the investment  WatchWhatISay   Jan-10-07 04:32 PM   #30 
  - That's what I'm screaming  TheFarseer   Jan-10-07 04:38 PM   #35 
  - Nancy came to the mike all in red and looking good for a grandma LOL  Monkeyman   Jan-10-07 04:21 PM   #19 
  - Tobin Tax  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Jan-10-07 04:22 PM   #21 
  - Details? Is it indexed to inflation, or just a temporary band-aid?  Zhade   Jan-10-07 04:22 PM   #22 
  - Every LITTLE bit helps...that's still NOT a livin' wage...and really won't be in 2yrs...  jus_the_facts   Jan-10-07 04:22 PM   #24 
  - If, as I suspect, it's not indexed to inflation...  Zhade   Jan-10-07 04:34 PM   #32 
     - I'm sorry, but I was never sold on this min-wage hike push to begin with...  DRoseDARs   Jan-10-07 06:53 PM   #62 
        - For 7.25 in 2 years to be the same as 5.15 today,  Lucky Luciano   Jan-10-07 07:07 PM   #65 
  - YEEEEESSSSS!!!!  BigNeeravT   Jan-10-07 04:26 PM   #26 
  - Hip! Hip! Hooray!  MasonJar   Jan-10-07 04:26 PM   #27 
  - It will also extend to the Northern Mariana Islands. Great news!  seafan   Jan-10-07 04:28 PM   #28 
  - YAY! That was good thinking. THanks to whoever got that  coffeenap   Jan-10-07 04:31 PM   #29 
  - This will piss off one of our bosses at the Labor Dept  lanlady   Jan-10-07 06:37 PM   #61 
  - wow!!!! great point out!  lies and propaganda   Jan-11-07 01:00 PM   #98 
  - Too bad  Taoschick   Jan-12-07 02:44 PM   #113 
  - Great news! Next step: get it raised to a living wage.  intheflow   Jan-10-07 04:36 PM   #33 
  - No one will answer my question, so am I right to assume this is NOT indexed to inflation?  Zhade   Jan-10-07 04:53 PM   #44 
     - This is a correct assumption.  intheflow   Jan-10-07 09:55 PM   #89 
  - Yet another VETO-PROOF margin! Hear here!  pabsungenis   Jan-10-07 04:37 PM   #34 
  - Good for them!  William769   Jan-10-07 04:40 PM   #36 
  - ack my motherfucking critter voted no!  mikelgb   Jan-10-07 04:40 PM   #37 
  - Mine, too.  PegDAC   Jan-10-07 08:38 PM   #84 
  - I was about to post the same thing  dist22dem   Jan-11-07 08:04 AM   #95 
  - Yea - I like those numbers!  mvd   Jan-10-07 04:41 PM   #38 
  - An outstanding day for American workers  journalist3072   Jan-10-07 04:45 PM   #39 
  - Get those signing statements ready, George  proust78   Jan-10-07 04:50 PM   #41 
  - Frankly, I'm Not Impressed  Demeter   Jan-10-07 04:53 PM   #42 
  - And from the reluctance to answer my question above, I'm guessing it's NOT indexed to inflation.  Zhade   Jan-10-07 04:55 PM   #45 
  - The time to push for laws is *before* the bill is passed. That was never brought up very much.  w4rma   Jan-10-07 05:12 PM   #48 
  - I did answer a bit above  Lucky Luciano   Jan-10-07 07:12 PM   #66 
  - nobody has answered  jamesinca   Jan-10-07 08:37 PM   #83 
  - something IS better than NOTHING  TankLV   Jan-13-07 01:00 AM   #118 
  - a tiny bit of improvement, but  antifaschits   Jan-10-07 05:06 PM   #47 
  - I am so FUCKING HAPPY to be in the MAJORITY  matcom   Jan-10-07 04:53 PM   #43 
  - 'bout 'effin 'time. How many raises for congress over 12 years?  antifaschits   Jan-10-07 05:04 PM   #46 
  - To the naysayers...  NastyRiffraff   Jan-10-07 05:15 PM   #49 
  - Let's be honest; it's a LITTLE better than nothing, not "a helluva lot" better.  Zhade   Jan-10-07 05:20 PM   #51 
  - Text:  pinto   Jan-10-07 05:19 PM   #50 
  - So it's not indexed to inflation.  Zhade   Jan-10-07 05:37 PM   #52 
     - No. Doesn't look like it. I wish it was, yet I still welcome the action.  pinto   Jan-10-07 05:55 PM   #56 
        - Me too.  trogdor   Jan-11-07 01:16 PM   #101 
  - Damn!  otherlander   Jan-10-07 05:52 PM   #55 
  - It is about time.  usregimechange   Jan-10-07 06:23 PM   #58 
  - Good Job!  outofbounds   Jan-10-07 06:31 PM   #60 
  - Minimum Wage Legislation? How about Schiavo and flag-burning?  IWantAChange   Jan-10-07 06:58 PM   #63 
  - oh sure it's better than nothing  tenaciousradical   Jan-10-07 07:03 PM   #64 
  - Bartlett (MD)  smtpgirl   Jan-10-07 07:17 PM   # 
  - He was one of the republicans  Bitwit1234   Jan-10-07 07:27 PM   #69 
  - I can't believe not a single Democrat voted against this stupid bill.  Idioteque   Jan-10-07 07:17 PM   #67 
  - 'Cuse me  Bitwit1234   Jan-10-07 07:24 PM   #68 
  - I'm saying if we are serious about stopping poverty...  Idioteque   Jan-10-07 07:27 PM   #70 
  - No I think he means the course that says  humbled_opinion   Jan-10-07 07:32 PM   #71 
     - Which is why Wal-Mart's CEO strongly supports a MW hike...  Idioteque   Jan-10-07 07:36 PM   #74 
        - Walmart won't like the wage increase either.  superconnected   Jan-10-07 09:15 PM   #87 
  - relax, some states are already over 7 dollars per hour for min wage  superconnected   Jan-10-07 09:13 PM   #86 
  - I've taken several econ courses, and I'm thrilled that it passed.  fishwax   Jan-11-07 02:11 PM   #108 
  - At least the House gave us  NovaNardis   Jan-10-07 07:33 PM   #72 
  - Any poison pills in it?  TOJ   Jan-10-07 07:36 PM   #73 
  - That is great, now watch Dubya veto the bill after it passes the senate  whistle   Jan-10-07 07:42 PM   #75 
  - Would he BE that stupid? Oh. Wait. We're talking about Little Boots.  Diane R   Jan-10-07 07:50 PM   #77 
  - He can veto all he wants..........  llmart   Jan-10-07 07:53 PM   #78 
     - be realistic  nodehopper   Jan-11-07 02:04 PM   #107 
        - They are trying to raise the minimum wage from one lump to two lumps  nolabels   Jan-18-07 03:25 PM   #121 
  - Superb news!!  SalmonChantedEvening   Jan-10-07 07:50 PM   #76 
  - Democats Actually *Do* Something!!!  tlsmith1963   Jan-10-07 07:58 PM   #79 
  - It was a pleasure  vpilot   Jan-10-07 08:02 PM   #80 
  - remember guys  Lawrence   Jan-10-07 08:36 PM   #81 
  - Congratulations to the congress  GenDem   Jan-10-07 08:37 PM   #82 
  - EXCELLENT!  app_farmer_rb   Jan-10-07 08:45 PM   #85 
  - Wow, we are just kicking ass for working Americans. nt  Zorra   Jan-10-07 09:47 PM   #88 
  - You mean employees will be paid over $5.15 an hour?  PinkyisBlue   Jan-11-07 12:17 AM   #90 
  - It's about God Dammed time!  donheld   Jan-11-07 01:14 AM   #91 
  - So who were the 116 knuck dragging let them have cakers?  tavalon   Jan-11-07 03:30 AM   #92 
  - I love having my country back!  Nimrod2005   Jan-11-07 07:49 AM   #94 
  - Is that enough to override a veto ?  hippiechick   Jan-11-07 01:01 PM   #99 
  - Next... Maximum wage anyone?  jakem   Jan-11-07 01:13 PM   #100 
  - The bastards have already started, actually.  Zavulon   Jan-11-07 01:27 PM   #102 
  - Once the law is passed  HawkeyeX   Jan-11-07 01:41 PM   #104 
     - Then he shouldn't say a word.  Zavulon   Jan-11-07 02:31 PM   #109 
  - WooHoo  lovuian   Jan-11-07 01:42 PM   #105 
  - The Do Something Democrats  erpowers   Jan-11-07 01:51 PM   #106 
  - Yes!  sakabatou   Jan-11-07 06:06 PM   #110 
  - Well, not everyone is getting helped.  Gators_Rule   Jan-12-07 11:42 AM   #112 
  - Do you know anything about  Taoschick   Jan-12-07 02:56 PM   #114 
  - HUH??  humbled_opinion   Jan-12-07 11:28 PM   #117 
     - This could get interesting  Taoschick   Jan-13-07 02:30 AM   #119 
  - Your newfound concern for the plight of the Samoans is really touching, Rush.  dicksteele   Jan-18-07 12:10 PM   #120 
  - Great news...but why doesn't it extend to American Samoa as well?  EndElectoral   Jan-12-07 03:05 PM   #115 
  - Uh..  Taoschick   Jan-12-07 03:20 PM   #116 
  - That's a good first step.  lpbk2713   Jan-18-07 03:35 PM   #122 
  - Isn't this wrong? the vote was 254 - something?  Nimrod2005   Jan-18-07 03:50 PM   #123 
     - No, the stem cell research bill passed 253-174  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-18-07 04:16 PM   #124 
 

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