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Mon Jan-08-07 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #42 |
| 47. AND, your concern of people stopping using the emergency room |
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and instead using the regular doctor's office is one of the primary goals behind the plan.
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| -Calif. gov calls for universal (health) coverage |
deadparrot |
Jan-08-07 03:39 PM |
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Ahnuld wants the credit for this himself. |
bemildred |
Jan-08-07 03:43 PM |
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Single payer NATIONAL health. |
aquart |
Jan-08-07 03:45 PM |
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Didn't he just VETO this 6 months ago? |
AchtungToddler |
Jan-08-07 03:56 PM |
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that's exactly what I was thinking |
nodehopper |
Jan-08-07 03:58 PM |
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Yes, he fucking did. SB 840. |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 05:31 PM |
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Now that sounds like GOP SOP |
donkeyotay |
Jan-08-07 05:44 PM |
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Bingo. That he did. Here's one of many articles about it... |
ReadTomPaine |
Jan-08-07 05:36 PM |
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He vetoed single payer |
sandnsea |
Jan-08-07 05:48 PM |
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Well, see, the thing about SB 840 was that it was actually going |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 05:54 PM |
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Well, see, the thing about single payer |
sandnsea |
Jan-08-07 05:59 PM |
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Funny how that could be the case when it passed the CA legislature |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 06:00 PM |
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LOL. They passed it knowing Ahnuld would veto it. |
rinsd |
Jan-08-07 06:01 PM |
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And the advantage of doing that, for the legislators, is....? |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 06:04 PM |
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Politics 101. |
rinsd |
Jan-08-07 06:10 PM |
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Here's an article about the independant Lewin Group's study, as well: |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 06:17 PM |
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That;s an advocacy group's website |
rinsd |
Jan-08-07 06:50 PM |
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Here is the actual report: |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 07:01 PM |
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Thank you. |
rinsd |
Jan-08-07 07:16 PM |
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Here is the Lewin Group's website, as well: |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 07:04 PM |
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AND, your concern of people stopping using the emergency room |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 07:08 PM |
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You misunderstood |
rinsd |
Jan-08-07 07:16 PM |
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Define Angelides as rational |
sandnsea |
Jan-08-07 06:15 PM |
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Man, you have to resort to the characterization tool... |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 06:19 PM |
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Nobody Wants It |
sandnsea |
Jan-08-07 06:32 PM |
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So says SandnSea, with absolutely no basis whatsoever. |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 06:38 PM |
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It creates a state insurance agency |
sandnsea |
Jan-08-07 07:36 PM |
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You're not addressing the costs. The inflation. |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 07:52 PM |
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Subsidized premiums will get support |
sandnsea |
Jan-09-07 12:23 AM |
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I want it and I am somebody. |
roody |
Jan-08-07 07:53 PM |
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My wife and I pay 480 a month |
darkstar |
Jan-08-07 08:25 PM |
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With no insurance |
sandnsea |
Jan-09-07 12:31 AM |
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So you think telling 25M Californians they have to change insurance company's would have gone well? |
rinsd |
Jan-08-07 06:00 PM |
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Their health care costs were going to go down. |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 06:02 PM |
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The savings claims with single payer are overstated, especially in the short term |
rinsd |
Jan-08-07 06:05 PM |
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Here is a very short video expaining the plan: |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 06:11 PM |
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That's your evidence? A commercial?? |
rinsd |
Jan-08-07 06:54 PM |
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How many links do you want me to give you? |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 07:02 PM |
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C'mon now. |
rinsd |
Jan-08-07 07:20 PM |
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thanks for pointing that out |
paulk |
Jan-08-07 05:55 PM |
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We have it |
sandnsea |
Jan-08-07 06:04 PM |
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our new governor |
paulk |
Jan-08-07 06:15 PM |
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Agreed - any plan is a step in the right direction. |
Lucky Luciano |
Jan-08-07 09:47 PM |
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what a "girly man" |
orleans |
Jan-08-07 04:15 PM |
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It will never happen!!! ... |
aggiesal |
Jan-08-07 04:22 PM |
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Arnold given millions for health care since first term |
SimpleTrend |
Jan-08-07 04:51 PM |
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this proposal... |
jljamison |
Jan-08-07 04:56 PM |
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I'm inclined to say this is positive. |
David__77 |
Jan-08-07 05:10 PM |
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It's not. It's total bullshit. He JUST VETOED a REAL universal healthcare |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 05:32 PM |
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Yep it;s NOT about "coverage" it's about COST to patients & families |
SoCalDem |
Jan-08-07 05:47 PM |
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This will actually be more expensive than the first plan. The idea |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-08-07 05:51 PM |
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Yessir.. This is just another republican ice cream sundae |
SoCalDem |
Jan-08-07 05:53 PM |
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About the auto insurance thing. |
Xithras |
Jan-08-07 08:07 PM |
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I agree |
sandnsea |
Jan-08-07 05:51 PM |
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since he vetoed this, now I'm going to guess he has a specific provider |
superconnected |
Jan-08-07 05:49 PM |
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Oregon has many providers |
sandnsea |
Jan-08-07 05:53 PM |
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I was thinking he'd chose a mega corporation that would own |
superconnected |
Jan-08-07 06:00 PM |
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That's the Democrats' job |
sandnsea |
Jan-08-07 06:08 PM |
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I also want universal health care |
superconnected |
Jan-08-07 06:17 PM |
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How will Arnie screw the public, yet again? |
AX10 |
Jan-08-07 07:19 PM |
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He's a liar. Read the fine print. |
Joanne98 |
Jan-08-07 07:39 PM |
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He vetoed a workable plan. Anything he has to offer will benefit |
Cleita |
Jan-08-07 08:18 PM |
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ahnuld is a proxy puppet... |
WHAT |
Jan-08-07 09:04 PM |
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And Bush called for a trip to Mars. Just hot air. |
Peake |
Jan-09-07 12:46 AM |
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More corporate welfare for insurance companies |
depakid |
Jan-09-07 01:52 AM |
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I would oppose state-only health care |
Ayesha |
Jan-09-07 03:14 AM |
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