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44. Here is the actual report:
http://www.healthcareforall.org/lewin.pdf

Here is a summary of the report:

http://www.healthcareforall.org/summary.pdf

On the Health Care for All site, but prepared by the group itself.
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  -Calif. gov calls for universal (health) coverage deadparrot  Jan-08-07 03:39 PM   #0 
  - Ahnuld wants the credit for this himself.  bemildred   Jan-08-07 03:43 PM   #1 
  - Single payer NATIONAL health.  aquart   Jan-08-07 03:45 PM   #2 
  - Didn't he just VETO this 6 months ago?  AchtungToddler   Jan-08-07 03:56 PM   #3 
  - that's exactly what I was thinking  nodehopper   Jan-08-07 03:58 PM   #4 
  - Yes, he fucking did. SB 840.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 05:31 PM   #10 
  - Now that sounds like GOP SOP  donkeyotay   Jan-08-07 05:44 PM   #13 
  - Bingo. That he did. Here's one of many articles about it...  ReadTomPaine   Jan-08-07 05:36 PM   #12 
  - He vetoed single payer  sandnsea   Jan-08-07 05:48 PM   #15 
     - Well, see, the thing about SB 840 was that it was actually going  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 05:54 PM   #21 
     - Well, see, the thing about single payer  sandnsea   Jan-08-07 05:59 PM   #23 
     - Funny how that could be the case when it passed the CA legislature  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 06:00 PM   #26 
        - LOL. They passed it knowing Ahnuld would veto it.  rinsd   Jan-08-07 06:01 PM   #27 
           - And the advantage of doing that, for the legislators, is....?  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 06:04 PM   #29 
              - Politics 101.  rinsd   Jan-08-07 06:10 PM   #33 
              - Here's an article about the independant Lewin Group's study, as well:  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 06:17 PM   #37 
                 - That;s an advocacy group's website  rinsd   Jan-08-07 06:50 PM   #42 
                    - Here is the actual report:  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 07:01 PM   #44 
                    - Thank you.  rinsd   Jan-08-07 07:16 PM   #49 
                    - Here is the Lewin Group's website, as well:  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 07:04 PM   #46 
                    - AND, your concern of people stopping using the emergency room  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 07:08 PM   #47 
                       - You misunderstood  rinsd   Jan-08-07 07:16 PM   #48 
              - Define Angelides as rational  sandnsea   Jan-08-07 06:15 PM   #35 
                 - Man, you have to resort to the characterization tool...  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 06:19 PM   #39 
                    - Nobody Wants It  sandnsea   Jan-08-07 06:32 PM   #40 
                       - So says SandnSea, with absolutely no basis whatsoever.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 06:38 PM   #41 
                       - It creates a state insurance agency  sandnsea   Jan-08-07 07:36 PM   #52 
                          - You're not addressing the costs. The inflation.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 07:52 PM   #54 
                             - Subsidized premiums will get support  sandnsea   Jan-09-07 12:23 AM   #61 
                       - I want it and I am somebody.  roody   Jan-08-07 07:53 PM   #55 
                       - My wife and I pay 480 a month  darkstar   Jan-08-07 08:25 PM   #58 
                          - With no insurance  sandnsea   Jan-09-07 12:31 AM   #62 
     - So you think telling 25M Californians they have to change insurance company's would have gone well?  rinsd   Jan-08-07 06:00 PM   #24 
        - Their health care costs were going to go down.  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 06:02 PM   #28 
           - The savings claims with single payer are overstated, especially in the short term  rinsd   Jan-08-07 06:05 PM   #31 
              - Here is a very short video expaining the plan:  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 06:11 PM   #34 
                 - That's your evidence? A commercial??  rinsd   Jan-08-07 06:54 PM   #43 
                    - How many links do you want me to give you?  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 07:02 PM   #45 
                       - C'mon now.  rinsd   Jan-08-07 07:20 PM   #51 
     - thanks for pointing that out  paulk   Jan-08-07 05:55 PM   #22 
        - We have it  sandnsea   Jan-08-07 06:04 PM   #30 
        - our new governor  paulk   Jan-08-07 06:15 PM   #36 
        - Agreed - any plan is a step in the right direction.  Lucky Luciano   Jan-08-07 09:47 PM   #60 
  - what a "girly man"  orleans   Jan-08-07 04:15 PM   #5 
  - It will never happen!!! ...  aggiesal   Jan-08-07 04:22 PM   #6 
  - Arnold given millions for health care since first term  SimpleTrend   Jan-08-07 04:51 PM   #7 
  - this proposal...  jljamison   Jan-08-07 04:56 PM   #8 
  - I'm inclined to say this is positive.  David__77   Jan-08-07 05:10 PM   #9 
  - It's not. It's total bullshit. He JUST VETOED a REAL universal healthcare  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 05:32 PM   #11 
  - Yep it;s NOT about "coverage" it's about COST to patients & families  SoCalDem   Jan-08-07 05:47 PM   #14 
     - This will actually be more expensive than the first plan. The idea  BullGooseLoony   Jan-08-07 05:51 PM   #17 
     - Yessir.. This is just another republican ice cream sundae  SoCalDem   Jan-08-07 05:53 PM   #20 
     - About the auto insurance thing.  Xithras   Jan-08-07 08:07 PM   #56 
  - I agree  sandnsea   Jan-08-07 05:51 PM   #18 
  - since he vetoed this, now I'm going to guess he has a specific provider  superconnected   Jan-08-07 05:49 PM   #16 
  - Oregon has many providers  sandnsea   Jan-08-07 05:53 PM   #19 
     - I was thinking he'd chose a mega corporation that would own  superconnected   Jan-08-07 06:00 PM   #25 
        - That's the Democrats' job  sandnsea   Jan-08-07 06:08 PM   #32 
           - I also want universal health care  superconnected   Jan-08-07 06:17 PM   #38 
  - How will Arnie screw the public, yet again?  AX10   Jan-08-07 07:19 PM   #50 
  - He's a liar. Read the fine print.  Joanne98   Jan-08-07 07:39 PM   #53 
  - He vetoed a workable plan. Anything he has to offer will benefit  Cleita   Jan-08-07 08:18 PM   #57 
  - ahnuld is a proxy puppet...  WHAT   Jan-08-07 09:04 PM   #59 
  - And Bush called for a trip to Mars. Just hot air.  Peake   Jan-09-07 12:46 AM   #63 
  - More corporate welfare for insurance companies  depakid   Jan-09-07 01:52 AM   #64 
  - I would oppose state-only health care  Ayesha   Jan-09-07 03:14 AM   #65 
 

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