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Sun Dec-17-06 06:55 PM
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| 34. Brian Hall is from Rapid City, where I live. His parents live here |
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as well and they've been in OR awaiting word with the other families. The local paper has been interviewing them, my heart just breaks for them.
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| -One Mt. Hood climber found dead. |
brook |
Dec-17-06 05:50 PM |
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It's not as sad as the family who lost their dad when they were stuck in the snow recently. |
truthisfreedom |
Dec-17-06 05:54 PM |
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It's not a competition. n/t |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-17-06 05:55 PM |
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Sorry. |
brook |
Dec-17-06 05:56 PM |
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I'm sorry if I offended you. There was no condemnation intended in my post. |
truthisfreedom |
Dec-17-06 06:15 PM |
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Thanks for the apology...I think. |
brook |
Dec-17-06 06:32 PM |
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So should his wife, his kids, his parents not have loved him, |
hlthe2b |
Dec-17-06 07:26 PM |
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I have sympathy for his family too |
proud2Blib |
Dec-17-06 07:40 PM |
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I have sympathy for his family and friends. |
TankLV |
Dec-17-06 10:03 PM |
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Oh come on |
proud2Blib |
Dec-17-06 07:38 PM |
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I thought that too, Proud2Blib, but apparently December is |
hlthe2b |
Dec-17-06 07:49 PM |
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It was not unseasonal; it was just BIG. |
janx |
Dec-17-06 07:56 PM |
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yes, I meant to say unusual, not really unseasonal...eom |
hlthe2b |
Dec-17-06 08:00 PM |
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The strange thing is that Oregon has been getting |
janx |
Dec-17-06 08:09 PM |
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I think we could call it unseasonable if it was JULY |
proud2Blib |
Dec-17-06 08:32 PM |
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yes.."misspoke"...meant unusual--typed unseasonable.... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-17-06 08:56 PM |
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"Unusual" is kind of misleading too. |
Buck Rabbit |
Dec-17-06 09:32 PM |
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Same applies to the Colorado Rockies where I live... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-17-06 09:39 PM |
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I lived in Colorado for 11 years... |
janx |
Dec-17-06 09:48 PM |
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I've lived in the MW, NE, and SE: it really doesn't apply there... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-17-06 10:00 PM |
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Yeah, the NW gets wonderful, brutal snow. n/t |
janx |
Dec-17-06 10:14 PM |
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The Columbia River Gorge is.. |
janx |
Dec-17-06 09:43 PM |
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When I compare YOUR heartless lack of compassion |
Trajan |
Dec-18-06 10:34 AM |
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You risk climbing a mountain, you accept the possibility |
psychopomp |
Dec-17-06 09:44 PM |
#87 |
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you get into a car |
northzax |
Dec-18-06 11:58 AM |
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Well by all means, everyone on the board hear this |
treestar |
Dec-18-06 08:04 AM |
#110 |
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Knowledge of risks means shit |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-17-06 06:33 PM |
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well, yeah I am |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-17-06 06:41 PM |
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The storm that trapped |
brook |
Dec-17-06 06:46 PM |
#28 |
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of course he did and was heroic in his efforts to protect them |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-17-06 06:51 PM |
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Any winter climber who has ANY business going on Hood this time of |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-17-06 06:51 PM |
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Exactly, thank you. |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-17-06 06:52 PM |
#32 |
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i'm not discounting the grief of their loved ones |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-17-06 07:03 PM |
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no such thing |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-17-06 07:31 PM |
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It is December |
proud2Blib |
Dec-17-06 07:43 PM |
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Exactly. |
truthisfreedom |
Dec-17-06 07:12 PM |
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And my friends died this spring doing what they loved |
KurtNYC |
Dec-17-06 08:10 PM |
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Mammoth is a monster |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-17-06 08:15 PM |
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Agreed |
KevinJ |
Dec-19-06 05:14 PM |
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It isn't as sad to me personally. I said nothing about his family. Look, I didn't kill anybody. |
truthisfreedom |
Dec-17-06 07:05 PM |
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I understand, TIF.... Some recent DU threads, though have had |
hlthe2b |
Dec-17-06 07:31 PM |
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Not Necessarily |
iamjoy |
Dec-17-06 09:02 PM |
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Thanks for this. |
tabasco |
Dec-17-06 11:27 PM |
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Thank you. I agree. |
cwydro |
Dec-18-06 04:43 AM |
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Any death is sad. His family will grieve as much as that other |
Cleita |
Dec-17-06 05:57 PM |
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uh oh |
Little Wing |
Dec-17-06 05:57 PM |
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Ask not for whom the bell tolls... |
rockymountaindem |
Dec-17-06 05:58 PM |
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How do you decide things like this?*** |
Egalitariat |
Dec-17-06 06:03 PM |
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I doubt they set out thinking they'd not be returning. |
Lastlaughin08 |
Dec-17-06 06:16 PM |
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Not only that, but the ice shelter and presence of climbing |
Warpy |
Dec-17-06 06:20 PM |
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The gear is typical for winter snow climbing. Hood is known for |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-17-06 06:55 PM |
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exactly! |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-17-06 07:05 PM |
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Would you climb a mountain in DECEMBER? |
proud2Blib |
Dec-17-06 07:44 PM |
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Why not December? It's my understanding that Mt. Hood snow |
Morgana LaFey |
Dec-18-06 11:21 AM |
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I would not personally tackle Hood in December, but then I am |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-18-06 11:29 AM |
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If the dead climber is James Kelley, he has a wife and three |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-17-06 06:34 PM |
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When one is married and has children one has responsibilities |
AngryAmish |
Dec-17-06 08:51 PM |
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I agree. I won't drive to the next town over in a snow storm, and always check |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-06 09:11 PM |
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No one is saying it is less sad |
proud2Blib |
Dec-17-06 10:39 PM |
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Please stop it! I used to respect proud2Blib's posts. |
High Plains |
Dec-18-06 12:48 PM |
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Tacky as opposed to suicidal |
proud2Blib |
Dec-18-06 04:29 PM |
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Agree again......this is some kind of record, but when you're right, |
mycritters2 |
Dec-19-06 01:47 PM |
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Natural selection |
proud2Blib |
Dec-17-06 07:31 PM |
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So one person's death is more "valuable" |
mountainvue |
Dec-17-06 07:45 PM |
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see, to me |
northzax |
Dec-18-06 12:00 PM |
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Body found in second ice cave |
BrotherBuzz |
Dec-17-06 05:56 PM |
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As one who lives in the Pacific Northwest |
oldtime dfl_er |
Dec-17-06 06:02 PM |
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Yes, the rescuers are heroes. |
brook |
Dec-17-06 06:08 PM |
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The climbers didn't do everything right... |
BrotherBuzz |
Dec-17-06 06:26 PM |
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Sorry bout your cousin. |
brook |
Dec-17-06 06:40 PM |
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She'd probably spearhead the effort once she finds closer |
BrotherBuzz |
Dec-17-06 07:03 PM |
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Unfortunately, it looks like the climbing community doesn't want mandated Mountain Locator Units |
brentspeak |
Dec-17-06 06:50 PM |
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Not unlike the arguments against.... |
BrotherBuzz |
Dec-17-06 07:16 PM |
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Do they consider that the rescuers |
tblue37 |
Dec-17-06 10:01 PM |
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That, and I suspect the Mountain Rescue boys are loaded with radios for instant communication |
BrotherBuzz |
Dec-17-06 10:46 PM |
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since the rescuers are mountaineers in Oregon themselves |
northzax |
Dec-18-06 12:02 PM |
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If thinking of others was in the forefront of their minds... |
KevinJ |
Dec-19-06 06:32 PM |
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I sincerely hope that this guy does not represent the whole |
janx |
Dec-17-06 07:21 PM |
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enhanced 911 cell phones, PLB's, and rescue costs |
BrightKnight |
Dec-17-06 09:28 PM |
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Does he offer words of gratitude for those who risk their lives to rescue |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-06 09:13 PM |
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agreed! I was so glad when those babies came out |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-17-06 07:18 PM |
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I found this comment at HuffPO, he seems to know whereof he speaks. |
achtung_circus |
Dec-17-06 08:36 PM |
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Now is not the time... |
janx |
Dec-17-06 08:47 PM |
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Sorry about your cousin. |
TriMetFan |
Dec-17-06 11:41 PM |
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The MLU debate has been ongoing for over a decade |
BrotherBuzz |
Dec-18-06 12:16 AM |
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One thing everybody needs to remember: ALL THE RESCUERS |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-17-06 07:00 PM |
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bingo! n/t |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-17-06 07:07 PM |
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"Mountain rescue is just one more way to get the adrenaline fix," |
janx |
Dec-17-06 07:31 PM |
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I didn't say they were. But it's a bonus. |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-18-06 11:31 AM |
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"And a word for the rescuers...they are really heroic people." |
Wcross |
Dec-17-06 06:14 PM |
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That's right.. As a Coloradoan... we have become somewhat |
hlthe2b |
Dec-17-06 07:39 PM |
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On news tonite they found their camera |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-19-06 07:20 PM |
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I'm very very sad about this. I don't understand the passion behind |
onecent |
Dec-17-06 06:06 PM |
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"They died doing something they loved..." I guess their families wish they took up fishing. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Dec-17-06 08:54 PM |
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NEEDLESS, risky activities now verbotin for parents!!! |
piedmont |
Dec-17-06 09:55 PM |
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At least with those you list there's a reasonable chance of being saved. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Dec-17-06 10:20 PM |
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You might also want to add drinking and recreational |
mountainvue |
Dec-18-06 12:59 PM |
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Oh, shoot. |
Suich |
Dec-17-06 06:13 PM |
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I think we all did. |
brook |
Dec-17-06 06:15 PM |
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self delete |
Lastlaughin08 |
Dec-17-06 06:14 PM |
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Oh, damn! I'm so sorry to hear this. |
classof56 |
Dec-17-06 06:16 PM |
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Terrible out come hate to say it the other two probably didn't survive either |
bigdarryl |
Dec-17-06 06:27 PM |
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I'm afraid you're right. |
brook |
Dec-17-06 06:38 PM |
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Brian Hall is from Rapid City, where I live. His parents live here |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-17-06 06:55 PM |
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There's supposed to be sun for the next two days, |
janx |
Dec-17-06 07:00 PM |
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Sadly, chances are the other 2 won't be found until spring thaws. |
karlrschneider |
Dec-17-06 06:53 PM |
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I"m hoping for the best |
AZDemDist6 |
Dec-17-06 07:13 PM |
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Sad news |
Raine |
Dec-17-06 07:30 PM |
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One climber found dead |
proud2Blib |
Dec-17-06 07:31 PM |
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This is terrible. I feel so bad for the families. |
mountainvue |
Dec-17-06 07:47 PM |
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that is very sad news |
Evergreen Emerald |
Dec-17-06 08:05 PM |
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It's kinda hard to feel sorry for mtn climbers dying because of inclement |
superconnected |
Dec-17-06 08:41 PM |
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I do. See my post #66. |
janx |
Dec-17-06 08:49 PM |
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Humankind's hubris in the face of Nature. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Dec-17-06 08:50 PM |
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I've noticed, and I've been in Iowa or Illinois all this autmun. |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-06 09:17 PM |
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You can't live life while hiding under the bead. |
BrightKnight |
Dec-17-06 10:20 PM |
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It was all over the Weather Channel--unusually cold and wet in the Pacific Northwest |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-06 10:36 PM |
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Do you really think they didn't check the forecast? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-18-06 12:09 PM |
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It is December |
proud2Blib |
Dec-17-06 10:51 PM |
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Thank you.....and let me say, for the record, Proud2belib has NEVER |
mycritters2 |
Dec-18-06 12:17 AM |
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A guy died on Mt. Washington, N.H., in August |
shrike |
Dec-18-06 04:12 PM |
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aparently three fewer than would have been benificial to their well being... |
TankLV |
Dec-17-06 10:05 PM |
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I know, I was in Salem most of Nov. |
blitzen |
Dec-17-06 10:12 PM |
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Turns out they're from out of state so at least that helps me think |
superconnected |
Dec-17-06 08:58 PM |
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That makes it sound as though Kelley is probably the one they |
tblue37 |
Dec-17-06 10:07 PM |
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The goverment of the state of Oregon has had many conversations... |
hayu_lol |
Dec-18-06 04:24 AM |
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It was Kelly James--just in on AP |
Norquist Nemesis |
Dec-18-06 11:31 AM |
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not a good excuse |
northzax |
Dec-18-06 12:07 PM |
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All of this could have been avoided if they had rented a $5 |
whutgives |
Dec-18-06 08:01 AM |
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I agree |
proud2Blib |
Dec-18-06 04:35 PM |
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This is very sad news, the families really had hope they would all be found alive |
Jennicut |
Dec-18-06 10:57 AM |
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The Darfur banner should put this in perspective |
lastliberalintexas |
Dec-18-06 11:45 AM |
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"they knew the risks." |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-18-06 11:54 AM |
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The storm was predicted |
LisaM |
Dec-18-06 12:26 PM |
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There's no excuse for taking these kinds of risks. Total hubris. |
brentspeak |
Dec-18-06 12:50 PM |
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I agree, and yet I think the people who do it are addicted |
LisaM |
Dec-18-06 12:53 PM |
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It is just a sport like skiing, kayaking or scuba diving. |
BrightKnight |
Dec-18-06 03:53 PM |
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LOL, to me, "just a sport" means softball! |
LisaM |
Dec-18-06 04:04 PM |
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Even the best climbers can run into the unexpected |
shrike |
Dec-18-06 04:08 PM |
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No it wasn't. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-18-06 02:07 PM |
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I live in Seattle and they predicted bad weather all last week |
LisaM |
Dec-18-06 03:47 PM |
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AP: 2 Mount Hood Climbers May Have Fallen |
Eugene |
Dec-18-06 02:04 PM |
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They may not find these guys until next spring |
depakid |
Dec-18-06 03:38 PM |
#130 |
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