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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 08:24 AM
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8. And they say these things aren't zero-sum
Everyone can have everything. Well, if that happens, we'll pay for it somewhere else. Such as climate change, overconsumption, overpopulation, or whatever.

Some people get everything, most don't, and some get nothing. Well, then we still have poverty, and the middle class will not only want, but need, and demand more of what the wealthy have, as they have every right to it that anyone does(like China and India in relation to the US).

Or, the field is completely level, everyone gets a little bit of everything, but not everything of everything. Not sure what force will bring that about, at least not in this large scale world.

But most people want globalization(you have to take the good with the bad, that balance thing again). Most people seem to enjoy competition(you have to take the good with the bad again). Most people don't see much wrong with specialization(which helps the class structure remain firmly intact). There is a balance to this thing we call existence, and we just have to figure out which scale to use.
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  -Americans see rich-poor gap worsening jefferson_dem  Dec-14-06 07:55 AM   #0 
  - Repukes for years have been trying to sell this as being a good thing.  trotsky   Dec-14-06 07:56 AM   #1 
  - Supply side economics is just a scam to steal from the poor and give to the rich  Lasher   Dec-14-06 08:05 AM   #2 
  - Liars!  Megahurtz   Dec-14-06 01:48 PM   #23 
  - thought you knew..  carolinarocco   Dec-14-06 06:35 PM   #27 
  - Oh, This Is Just Class Warfare!  Tanner_B.   Dec-14-06 08:05 AM   #3 
  - Americans see that only because it's true  gratuitous   Dec-14-06 08:08 AM   #4 
  - This is so true. The ONE thing you'll never hear in the media is a criticism  1932   Dec-14-06 08:48 AM   #14 
     - Interesting analysis  gratuitous   Dec-14-06 09:42 AM   #16 
     - Also, they make tons of money, so the status quo obviously works for them.  closeupready   Dec-14-06 10:12 AM   #19 
        - The misnomer here is, it doesn't matter who is in power  Tellurian   Dec-14-06 04:33 PM   #26 
           - Raising the minimum wage is actually an excellent wealth redistribution strategy  PeaceProgProsp   Dec-14-06 07:37 PM   #28 
  - And no one will do a thing to stop it  Red Zelda   Dec-14-06 08:14 AM   #5 
  - Actually they get directed to another "issue"  MikeNearMcChord   Dec-14-06 08:20 AM   #6 
  - The only way to stop it  Tellurian   Dec-14-06 08:22 AM   #7 
     - yep. Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps  Viva_La_Revolution   Dec-14-06 08:26 AM   #10 
     - Basically, that is the gist of it..  Tellurian   Dec-14-06 10:09 AM   #18 
     - So then explain for me why we give all these tax breaks to people  closeupready   Dec-14-06 10:16 AM   #20 
        - Throughout the ages..  Tellurian   Dec-14-06 01:25 PM   #21 
           - Oh, I see. Sorry, I misinterpreted your message.  closeupready   Dec-14-06 01:34 PM   #22 
  - And they say these things aren't zero-sum  NoMoreMyths   Dec-14-06 08:24 AM   #8 
  - i see the effects everyday----most just "getting by"--"living to work"  rodeodance   Dec-14-06 08:26 AM   #9 
  - I think income inequality is the greatest threat to our country and our democracy  1932   Dec-14-06 08:29 AM   #11 
  - Was heartened to see it acknowledged as a problem by Cons  Patiod   Dec-14-06 08:34 AM   #12 
  - "The press doesn't report a good economy"??  HughBeaumont   Dec-14-06 08:50 AM   #15 
  - Perfectly Legal  HughBeaumont   Dec-14-06 08:35 AM   #13 
  - Grrrrrrrr....  Megahurtz   Dec-14-06 01:59 PM   #24 
  - Pssssst! Hey, Americans  maxrandb   Dec-14-06 10:03 AM   #17 
  - Those Bush tax breaks are only one of many ways that they  The Backlash Cometh   Dec-14-06 04:29 PM   #25 
  - Corporations have been stealing from the American worker  lovuian   Dec-14-06 08:02 PM   #29 

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