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Thu Dec-14-06 12:54 AM
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| 22. We should have the Death Penalty. |
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It should be an option for certain crimes and should be available for those crimes just as soon as we finally perfect the legal process.
Until the legal process is perfect, there will always be a chance of executing innocent people. Sorry, a +/- tolerance on the guilt of those sentenced to death is simply not acceptable.
"We executed 100 prisoners last year and we estimate that over 90% were actually guilty of the crime they were executed for (applause)."
Of course these days there is no tolerance applied. The officials simply don't care. A dead body is progress, see?
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Bigmack |
Dec-13-06 11:17 PM |
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I can't bear to read anymore. |
Kerrytravelers |
Dec-13-06 11:19 PM |
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I agree. There is no humane reason |
ThomCat |
Dec-13-06 11:25 PM |
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That is how my family has always felt. |
Kerrytravelers |
Dec-13-06 11:36 PM |
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Me too. |
ThomCat |
Dec-13-06 11:41 PM |
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Jeb Bush was so excited he went in men's room and Masturbated |
saigon68 |
Dec-14-06 06:34 AM |
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Um, that's an image I really didn't need in my head. |
ThomCat |
Dec-14-06 07:34 AM |
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Thank you. I don't care how peaceful it LOOKS |
Warpy |
Dec-13-06 11:38 PM |
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I'm ambivalent about the death penalty myself. In the end, I have to be for it |
MGD |
Dec-13-06 11:53 PM |
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You cant legislate morality |
jamesinca |
Dec-14-06 07:29 AM |
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"30 years later" is one thing seriously wrong with our criminal justice system |
Lasher |
Dec-14-06 08:32 AM |
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"It has always been against the law to kill and yet it goes on.... |
MGD |
Dec-14-06 08:08 PM |
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Actually there is evidence to support my argument |
jamesinca |
Dec-14-06 11:48 PM |
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Iraq has Capital Punishment. |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-14-06 10:36 AM |
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There is no law in order in Iraq. Order has completely broken down. |
MGD |
Dec-14-06 08:17 PM |
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But you claim the Death Penalty keeps us from being like Iraq! |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-15-06 07:03 AM |
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Yes, but law and order broke down |
CJCRANE |
Dec-16-06 06:24 AM |
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I respectfully disagree |
Kelvin Mace |
Dec-14-06 10:36 AM |
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And I respect your opinion...however |
MGD |
Dec-14-06 08:26 PM |
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Canada doesn't have the death penalty |
daleo |
Dec-14-06 12:26 PM |
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Canada isn't the United states either. Not all solutions are universally applicable. |
MGD |
Dec-14-06 08:29 PM |
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No, but it weakens the point about the death penalty being a deterrent |
daleo |
Dec-15-06 03:06 PM |
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A lot of us here on DU have no fear of devine retribution |
Bill McBlueState |
Dec-14-06 02:03 PM |
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Well, I would hope that most of us here at DU aren't psychopaths. |
MGD |
Dec-14-06 08:45 PM |
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Psychopaths don't fear anything. |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-15-06 07:05 AM |
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The death penalty is not a deterrent |
Warpy |
Dec-14-06 05:06 PM |
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I would have to see specific references to this proof you speak of before I could comment further |
MGD |
Dec-14-06 08:51 PM |
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Funny how the states without the death penalty have a lower murder rate |
Godlesscommieprevert |
Dec-16-06 11:06 AM |
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That's a good idea, discussing it |
LeighAnn |
Dec-14-06 12:35 AM |
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I'm with you |
LostinVA |
Dec-14-06 07:26 AM |
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You're not alone -- I oppose the death penalty |
AliceWonderland |
Dec-15-06 10:10 AM |
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You can always count on the Freepers... |
Bigmack |
Dec-13-06 11:38 PM |
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In fairness |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-13-06 11:50 PM |
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Why is it a necessity? |
Webster Green |
Dec-13-06 11:57 PM |
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It is a strong deterrent. nt |
MGD |
Dec-14-06 12:08 AM |
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No it's not |
J Miles |
Dec-14-06 03:36 AM |
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Well, Japan still has the death penalty |
Art_from_Ark |
Dec-14-06 09:36 PM |
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Prove it. Numbers please. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-14-06 07:20 AM |
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Death Penalty |
intaglio |
Dec-14-06 02:44 PM |
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Prove that it isn't. nt |
MGD |
Dec-14-06 08:28 PM |
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In other words, you admit it's baseless speculation. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-15-06 06:12 AM |
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That's not how it works |
J Miles |
Dec-16-06 02:55 AM |
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AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA |
Roland99 |
Dec-14-06 07:29 AM |
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Yeah a real strong detterent |
Puglover |
Dec-15-06 07:23 AM |
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No, it isn't a deterrent at all |
Kellanved |
Dec-15-06 07:48 AM |
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Some monsters should not walk on the earth |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-14-06 12:37 AM |
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We'll always disagree on this one |
mvd |
Dec-14-06 12:50 AM |
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Fair enough |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-14-06 01:01 AM |
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I respect your opinion |
mvd |
Dec-14-06 01:02 AM |
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Always |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-14-06 01:08 AM |
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Read John Grisham's "An Innocent Man" |
AngryOldDem |
Dec-14-06 10:52 AM |
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Thanks for the rec |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-14-06 12:19 PM |
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Either way they leave the prison dead |
krispos42 |
Dec-14-06 05:16 AM |
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And I prefer he/she go naturally |
mvd |
Dec-14-06 08:09 AM |
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Agreed |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-14-06 12:30 PM |
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Or Ted Bundy - who managed to escape and kill |
greccogirl |
Dec-14-06 11:29 PM |
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Because they found that the head survived for awhile. |
knitter4democracy |
Dec-14-06 07:38 AM |
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Not to sound too morbid, but |
dbaker41 |
Dec-14-06 09:23 AM |
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I forget where I read that. |
knitter4democracy |
Dec-14-06 11:02 AM |
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Absolutely. And irreversible. |
dbaker41 |
Dec-14-06 11:13 AM |
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Really?!?!?! |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-14-06 12:32 PM |
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Actually it wasn't stopped |
michreject |
Dec-15-06 09:26 AM |
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Were you aware that some witnessese have speculated |
hedgehog |
Dec-14-06 11:26 AM |
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The guillotine was NOT instantaneous |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-14-06 12:30 PM |
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Conceded |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-14-06 12:34 PM |
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until I read that really really gross story so did I |
zreosumgame |
Dec-14-06 01:54 PM |
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because it takes time for even a severed head to die |
zreosumgame |
Dec-14-06 12:31 PM |
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Conceded. See above n/t |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-14-06 12:34 PM |
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Neat thing about freepers: The executionee need not be guilty, just be convicted. |
Bozita |
Dec-13-06 11:50 PM |
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I'm deeply opposed to the DP |
MonkeyFunk |
Dec-13-06 11:41 PM |
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no excuses |
Botany |
Dec-13-06 11:55 PM |
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"BTW just for $ reasons we should dump the the death penalty." |
MGD |
Dec-14-06 12:07 AM |
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Because it takes much more money to carry out a capital case to the end |
Botany |
Dec-14-06 08:02 AM |
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There's also the impact on the jailers and executioners |
Patiod |
Dec-14-06 08:20 AM |
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Sorry but the cessation of the heartbeat is NOT death |
intaglio |
Dec-14-06 02:30 PM |
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Death to the Death Penalty. n/t |
Psephos |
Dec-13-06 11:58 PM |
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I think they should bring back hard labor for these criminals |
MadMaddie |
Dec-14-06 12:29 AM |
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It would be so easy to give them an overdose of morphine. Why do they use these |
truthisfreedom |
Dec-14-06 12:32 AM |
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I'll tell ya anyway... |
RC |
Dec-14-06 06:10 AM |
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That's a very good point. Fentanyl would be even better. nt |
MGD |
Dec-14-06 08:56 PM |
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A firing squad is more humane. |
David__77 |
Dec-14-06 12:47 AM |
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Actually, it's not |
krispos42 |
Dec-14-06 05:29 AM |
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Than lethal injection? No way, |
benEzra |
Dec-14-06 02:09 PM |
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We should have the Death Penalty. |
Opposite Reaction |
Dec-14-06 12:54 AM |
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And I don't think it ever will be perfect enough |
mvd |
Dec-14-06 01:01 AM |
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well they could... |
Kiouni |
Dec-14-06 01:20 AM |
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There is a paralytic |
intaglio |
Dec-14-06 04:15 PM |
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When I was asked by a detective |
Pastiche423 |
Dec-14-06 01:41 AM |
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Wow. |
Evergreen Emerald |
Dec-14-06 07:43 AM |
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I, for one, would like to see the man who did that you thrashing about in an electric chair |
brentspeak |
Dec-16-06 02:25 PM |
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I myself |
atomicdawg38 |
Dec-14-06 04:05 AM |
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Random "fact" FWIW |
tbyg52 |
Dec-14-06 06:00 AM |
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mmm boy. That will sure be a deterrent to anyone else. I fully expect all murders to now stop. |
Roland99 |
Dec-14-06 07:27 AM |
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Since 1973 |
SOS |
Dec-14-06 10:36 AM |
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Thanks I didn't know what the number was |
underpants |
Dec-14-06 11:15 AM |
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Jailhouse informant, whose testimony doomed Diaz, later recanted: the informant .. |
struggle4progress |
Dec-14-06 11:18 AM |
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So he got treated like animals in a shelter, getting put to sleep. |
Rex |
Dec-14-06 02:54 PM |
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This guy I know... |
phusion |
Dec-14-06 06:04 PM |
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outrageous |
cyr330 |
Dec-14-06 08:17 PM |
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I just don't understand this. |
greccogirl |
Dec-14-06 11:28 PM |
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Even surgical patients sometimes "wake up"... |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-15-06 07:14 AM |
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0.15%? I'm sorry - but I have probably had 15 surgeries in |
greccogirl |
Dec-15-06 10:25 AM |
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I think you've got the fractions wrong.... |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-15-06 10:47 AM |
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Neat or clean, but not both |
krispos42 |
Dec-16-06 02:16 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-16-06 02:45 AM |
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Those favoring the death penalty live in a bubble of delusion. |
gulfcoastliberal |
Dec-15-06 08:27 AM |
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I so badly want to allow myself to get sucked into your response... |
ALiberalSailor |
Dec-16-06 03:15 AM |
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I'll be for the death penalty too. When human judgement is error free. |
reprobate |
Dec-16-06 01:25 PM |
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Actually, it almost took 30 years . . . |
toopers |
Dec-15-06 09:35 AM |
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Execution is wrong |
demobrit |
Dec-16-06 07:29 AM |
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I don't get why hanging is considered cruel. It's instantaneous. |
MrSlayer |
Dec-16-06 11:39 PM |
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