| 157. The Saudis may not be able to ramp up production of any oil |
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that the world wants to buy. They're cutting their yearly allocation to their Far Eastern customers by 6-8%. That's their light, sweet crude. They can't sell their heavy, high sulfur crude to anyone.
However, over on the Opec front, the Saudis are trying to limit production to keep the price up to $60. Their actions and talk don't make much sense.
I think that any talk about cutting the oil price down to $40 is just talk, and the Iranians know it.
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| -Breaking CNN: Saudis threaten to support Sunni insurgency... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 09:41 PM |
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Between Iraq and a hard place, aren't we...? |
ocelot |
Dec-12-06 09:42 PM |
#1 |
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Between Saudi Arabian Oil and a Shiite Hole..... |
alittlelark |
Dec-12-06 11:22 PM |
#61 |
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Think Bush knows the difference... |
davekriss |
Dec-13-06 06:48 AM |
#78 |
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Don't you mean |
Bassic |
Dec-13-06 07:06 AM |
#79 |
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No Don't you really mean... |
humbled_opinion |
Dec-13-06 06:41 PM |
#141 |
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Yeah, they're all good, but if we're talking about Freepers |
Bassic |
Dec-14-06 06:53 AM |
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The Saudis are getting a little freaked out |
DoYouEverWonder |
Dec-12-06 09:43 PM |
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On the other hand, if this is cover for Bush, I hope he gets... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 09:44 PM |
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Put it this way, the trip and the resignation had everything to do with |
Miss Chybil |
Dec-12-06 09:45 PM |
#4 |
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lol, this entire world has turned into a goddamn Tom Clancy novel |
WindRavenX |
Dec-12-06 09:45 PM |
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So true. SO true. Except in the end of Tom Clancy novels we... |
Poll_Blind |
Dec-12-06 09:47 PM |
#9 |
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and we're the good guys. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-12-06 09:50 PM |
#14 |
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But something large usually blows up in the meantime. |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-13-06 11:52 AM |
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That's exactly what I was thinking... |
TwoSparkles |
Dec-12-06 10:38 PM |
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I was reading a Tom Clancy novel |
ForPeace |
Dec-13-06 01:04 AM |
#72 |
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Hi ForPeace! Welcome to DU! |
Maraya1969 |
Dec-13-06 05:17 PM |
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You mean Jesus Christ on 2 popsicle sticks! |
Tight_rope |
Dec-13-06 08:55 AM |
#90 |
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Clancy just loves Republicans.... |
ClintonTyree |
Dec-13-06 11:52 AM |
#107 |
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you are correct, WindRavenX |
Skittles |
Dec-13-06 02:19 PM |
#123 |
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And if the U.S. stays? |
rocknation |
Dec-12-06 09:45 PM |
#6 |
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So the U.S. in order to appease their Saudi masters... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-12-06 09:45 PM |
#7 |
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um... gets more interesting as time goes by. |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 09:46 PM |
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Recommend. Very newsworthy and I'll wager that's precisely why |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 09:47 PM |
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Yep, with so many lives in the balance, this is some high stakes maneuvering... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 09:51 PM |
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By cover, you mean the Saudi's threat could be his reasoning |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 09:55 PM |
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Bush has said, on a number of occasions, that oil-rich countries want to... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 10:07 PM |
#23 |
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Yes, the tail is wagging the dog. |
RiverStone |
Dec-12-06 10:13 PM |
#28 |
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Underneath the peace symbol? |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 10:18 PM |
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Funny, I thought your avatar was the Burning Man symbol nt |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-13-06 08:46 AM |
#89 |
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The whole thing stinks and I think puts * in an untenable situation. |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 10:20 PM |
#41 |
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I'll be both! nt |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 10:33 PM |
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Dr. Rice....paging Dr. Rice...where oh where is the talented Sec. of State?? |
Supersedeas |
Dec-13-06 02:47 PM |
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Unless Saud is sicker than we know....but the AC report is worrisome, isn't it? |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:18 PM |
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I don't understand what that has to do with issuing a threat |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 10:24 PM |
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It's "all in together" time. The House of Saud can't have a Sunni bloodbath in Iraq, they just |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:47 PM |
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Now that's the bundle of cheer I was expecting. |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 10:51 PM |
#52 |
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Exactly--we don't know whether to laugh, cry or just go DAMN!! |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 11:05 PM |
#56 |
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don't they want unending war? |
redqueen |
Dec-13-06 02:49 PM |
#126 |
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Honestly? No. BushCo was in this for the OIL. Make no mistake. |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 03:08 PM |
#127 |
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Only problem is... |
Bushwick Bill |
Dec-13-06 08:44 AM |
#87 |
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Makes me wonder... |
ponthedge |
Dec-13-06 11:54 AM |
#109 |
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Though we keep hearing that, as though it is gonna happen tomorrow, I regard it as a downstream |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 03:42 PM |
#129 |
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The Saudis are building refineries for their very heavy sour stuff |
amandabeech |
Dec-13-06 09:45 PM |
#154 |
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What about the Empty Quarter? It is a huge area, untouched. |
MADem |
Dec-14-06 12:19 PM |
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That's why bush won't/hasn't pulled our troops out even though |
Auntie Bush |
Dec-12-06 10:20 PM |
#43 |
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I'm scared, too, Auntie. What further hell has dimson wrought? nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 10:25 PM |
#46 |
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Now we know why the Ambassador resigned today |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Dec-12-06 09:47 PM |
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Yes but is the resignation meant to underscore the seriousness... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 10:03 PM |
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Well, another theory is that Turki is getting spanked for letting Obaid blab to the WAPO NT |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:56 PM |
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Here's the link... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 09:48 PM |
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says here that SA told Cheney about this 2 WEEKS ago! |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 09:56 PM |
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Okey dokey. There's another dot. I suspect this was all planned... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 10:04 PM |
#22 |
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say more about what you mean |
grasswire |
Dec-12-06 11:11 PM |
#57 |
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You know, I'm not sure. It's just a feeling, at this point, that this will... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-13-06 12:43 AM |
#69 |
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The only hope is a US coup that puts secular Shia Allawi in power |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-12-06 10:19 PM |
#39 |
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His Name is "Prince Turki"? |
ribofunk |
Dec-13-06 09:56 AM |
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Article shows a little infighting between Bandar and Turki for Foreign Minister's |
mod mom |
Dec-12-06 10:16 PM |
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Interesting. Also that Bandar sold his big Mansion in Texas last Summer.. |
KoKo01 |
Dec-13-06 08:35 AM |
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Here is the discussion thread for amb. leaving. good dot connections |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 09:49 PM |
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Color-coded map of Iraq showing Sunni, Shia, Kurd areas: |
Poll_Blind |
Dec-12-06 09:54 PM |
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another wider area map also, here |
uppityperson |
Dec-12-06 10:01 PM |
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Thanks for these maps! |
bigworld |
Dec-12-06 10:16 PM |
#34 |
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I agree, why would Iran consider an escalation with such a huge Sunni |
mod mom |
Dec-12-06 10:19 PM |
#40 |
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And how does Russia play in this? |
Tight_rope |
Dec-13-06 10:52 AM |
#102 |
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Wow! That changes the situation. Most the ME are Sunni and we're backing |
Auntie Bush |
Dec-12-06 11:00 PM |
#55 |
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from what i read, We will stay and give it 'push" (more$, more troops,etc) |
rodeodance |
Dec-13-06 08:08 AM |
#81 |
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"Bush* sure fuc*ed himself" |
davekriss |
Dec-13-06 08:18 AM |
#84 |
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Yeah, well "our children" need to start deserting this sinking ship |
NJCher |
Dec-13-06 06:19 PM |
#139 |
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I'd like a map showing oil deposits overlaid with Shi'ite areas |
eridani |
Dec-13-06 07:16 PM |
#143 |
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Take a good look at this map. The mideast may never look like this again? |
cassiepriam |
Dec-13-06 05:17 AM |
#77 |
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Good tip! We should buy stock in companies that specialize in map making. |
Auntie Bush |
Dec-13-06 09:15 AM |
#93 |
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Amazing map. What are the chances Chimpy looked at this map |
CLW |
Dec-13-06 01:04 PM |
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That's pretty much on the mark--the Kurds certainly want that chunk up around |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 11:20 PM |
#60 |
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If this is not handled perfectly |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-12-06 10:04 PM |
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It very well could have to do with both. What Army do they plan on using, I wonder????? |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:09 PM |
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says they will financial backing to Iraqi Sunni and we know they have $$ |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 10:15 PM |
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Well, in a sick, BushCo fashion, if it's just going to be a money and guns exercise, |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:24 PM |
#44 |
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Saudi/Sunni counterbalance... |
MilesColtrane |
Dec-13-06 03:52 PM |
#132 |
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They've put out the call for volunteers to all of the sunni clerics |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 04:19 PM |
#136 |
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Well this is another fine mess you have gotten us into. |
Botany |
Dec-12-06 10:12 PM |
#25 |
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NYT: Saudis Give U.S. a Grim What If |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 10:13 PM |
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Say, THANKS for posting that article!!! |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:32 PM |
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and....did you notice article says he had not "Officially Resigned" as of Tuesday |
KoKo01 |
Dec-13-06 09:01 AM |
#91 |
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This feels too much like a show. |
hang a left |
Dec-12-06 10:13 PM |
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This would appear to be "the" story of the day. Thanks. eom |
jarab |
Dec-12-06 10:13 PM |
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It has to do with both, ambassador's resignation and Cheney's trip |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-12-06 10:15 PM |
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We didn't have a choice in who we backed |
fujiyama |
Dec-13-06 12:55 AM |
#70 |
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Bush is planning his "Battle of the Bulge," the last battle for victory in Iraq |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-13-06 09:28 PM |
#153 |
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so, I guess we stay!! |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 10:15 PM |
#32 |
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SA is blackmailing us to stay in Iraq: |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 10:19 PM |
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Here's their pitch......Remember that awful three dollar a gallon gas? |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 11:15 PM |
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What you're saying coming true would not surprise me one bit...reminds me |
Tight_rope |
Dec-13-06 01:35 PM |
#119 |
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That's about it! n/t |
Megahurtz |
Dec-13-06 01:41 PM |
#120 |
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We are so screwn. America cannot afford to have Bush/Cheney representing us abroad. |
Tatiana |
Dec-12-06 10:19 PM |
#38 |
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Forcing our hand equals blackmail. So, how much for how long? nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 11:15 PM |
#58 |
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I agree. |
rodeodance |
Dec-13-06 08:08 AM |
#82 |
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None of this had to happen |
twilight_sailing |
Dec-12-06 10:20 PM |
#42 |
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That COMMA just became a semicolon. |
Gregorian |
Dec-12-06 10:29 PM |
#47 |
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Total disaster is already in Iraq and the ME since poppy's flip |
Amonester |
Dec-13-06 10:50 PM |
#158 |
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The Saudis are already |
burrowowl |
Dec-12-06 10:56 PM |
#53 |
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I agree--I think we're being "scripted" again |
rocknation |
Dec-12-06 11:23 PM |
#62 |
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Help me out ~ It is so hard to believe |
goclark |
Dec-12-06 11:36 PM |
#63 |
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Maybe Cheney made a deal to save this presidency, or try to. nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 11:39 PM |
#64 |
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The only thing Cheney's trying to save is his party's face. |
rocknation |
Dec-12-06 11:53 PM |
#65 |
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If the US capitulates to SA and that's their reasoning for staying |
babylonsister |
Dec-13-06 12:00 AM |
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I'm thinking he'd like nothing better than to see someone light the fuse |
Old and In the Way |
Dec-13-06 12:16 AM |
#68 |
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Thanks ~ they are truly Mad Dogs |
goclark |
Dec-13-06 10:35 AM |
#100 |
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So there will be a playing-out between Big Oil and ME religious/tribal entities? |
stubtoe |
Dec-13-06 01:15 PM |
#117 |
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They have no real Army, though |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 01:31 AM |
#73 |
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Are we going to eventually see Saudia Arabia vs. Iran for control of Iraq? |
Jennicut |
Dec-13-06 12:08 AM |
#67 |
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Anyone who thinks high level Saudis aren't already supporting the insurgency |
fujiyama |
Dec-13-06 12:59 AM |
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Of course, you're quite right. This is simply lifting the veil of plausible deniability. |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 01:40 AM |
#74 |
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The Saudis have lots of younger sons. |
aquart |
Dec-13-06 03:31 AM |
#75 |
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Did they happen to add a "PS" |
lostnfound |
Dec-13-06 05:00 AM |
#76 |
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It's payback time... |
Everybody |
Dec-13-06 08:01 AM |
#80 |
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Cheney summoned by Royals; Saudi Ambassador resigns and leaves the US; Saudis backing insurgents.... |
Roland99 |
Dec-13-06 08:11 AM |
#83 |
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Here's a link for ya! |
Tight_rope |
Dec-13-06 08:44 AM |
#86 |
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Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Us Into, Chimpy |
Beetwasher |
Dec-13-06 08:44 AM |
#88 |
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Of course they are-anything to keep the radicals out of their country |
underpants |
Dec-13-06 09:06 AM |
#92 |
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Weeeee! aren't stupid ill conceived wars of choice fun???? |
Javaman |
Dec-13-06 09:28 AM |
#94 |
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YES HE DOES |
saigon68 |
Dec-13-06 09:31 AM |
#96 |
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Yeah and don't forget his Pop |
Megahurtz |
Dec-13-06 01:50 PM |
#121 |
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Aren't they already funding them - like they did the 911 attack |
28erl |
Dec-13-06 09:31 AM |
#95 |
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What was it 15 out of the 19, 9-11 bombers were from saudi Arabia? |
Imagevision |
Dec-13-06 11:55 AM |
#110 |
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Uh oh, don't make the masters mad... |
RestoreGore |
Dec-13-06 09:43 AM |
#97 |
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Saudis want the Iraq oil but need Iraq in shambles before they |
valerief |
Dec-13-06 10:04 AM |
#99 |
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Saudis threats - implementation worries CARTOON |
ZENmud |
Dec-13-06 10:35 AM |
#101 |
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When they summoned Dick, they told him....And these are our "friends" |
The Count |
Dec-13-06 10:57 AM |
#103 |
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Lol! |
Megahurtz |
Dec-13-06 01:56 PM |
#122 |
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Stop the Outsourcing!!!!! |
mrJJ |
Dec-13-06 11:17 AM |
#104 |
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Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall and it was Bush that gave him the push. |
DuaneBidoux |
Dec-13-06 11:40 AM |
#105 |
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You mean, they aren't already doing that? |
devilgrrl |
Dec-13-06 11:53 AM |
#108 |
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Invading Iraq was sure a good idea, though, wasn't it?! |
mycritters2 |
Dec-13-06 12:01 PM |
#111 |
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Bush is going to drag this out thru 2008, this man needs mental evaluation |
Imagevision |
Dec-13-06 12:11 PM |
#112 |
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this has been the plan all along n/t |
BrokenBeyondRepair |
Dec-13-06 12:28 PM |
#113 |
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So, we split...? and the Sauidi's can take over?!! how soon can we do this? |
Imagevision |
Dec-13-06 12:34 PM |
#114 |
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The Saudis cannot take over. That's why they are balltwisting us to stay. |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 02:40 PM |
#124 |
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The Saudis may not be able to ramp up production of any oil |
amandabeech |
Dec-13-06 10:05 PM |
#157 |
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They can if it's already refined, and at bargain basement prices. |
MADem |
Dec-14-06 12:29 PM |
#170 |
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That means that Saudis support Terrorism. |
Higans |
Dec-13-06 01:10 PM |
#116 |
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The Saudis come to * rescue. * has no intention of withdrawing from Iraq. |
genieroze |
Dec-13-06 01:15 PM |
#118 |
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So that's why Cheney went over... |
sampsonblk |
Dec-13-06 03:14 PM |
#128 |
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In 1,400 years... |
Chulanowa |
Dec-13-06 03:46 PM |
#130 |
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Aren't insurgents terrorists? |
rman |
Dec-13-06 03:47 PM |
#131 |
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The MSM never tell you which sect or ethnic group is shooting at us |
amandabeech |
Dec-13-06 10:00 PM |
#156 |
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If both Sunni and Shia want US troops out of Iraq, then who's killing |
rman |
Dec-14-06 02:27 AM |
#163 |
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Mostly Shia are killing Sunnis and vice versa. |
amandabeech |
Dec-14-06 02:47 AM |
#164 |
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A MSM question you will never hear: |
PATRICK |
Dec-13-06 04:11 PM |
#133 |
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By Republican "logic" |
svpadgham |
Dec-13-06 04:13 PM |
#134 |
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The Saudis feel compelled to aid the Iraqi Sunni, their co-religionists |
entanglement |
Dec-13-06 04:16 PM |
#135 |
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Interestingly, Poppy Bush recently visited the Saudi's to assure them they could depend on his son > |
Imagevision |
Dec-13-06 05:21 PM |
#138 |
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Don't forget the Saudis are in business with the Bushes |
TOJ |
Dec-13-06 06:20 PM |
#140 |
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Sounds to me like the Saudi's are trying to help out Bush... |
8_year_nightmare |
Dec-13-06 07:03 PM |
#142 |
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The Saudis are helping themselves as well. |
amandabeech |
Dec-13-06 09:55 PM |
#155 |
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Is that you, Judy Miller? |
8_year_nightmare |
Dec-14-06 12:36 AM |
#159 |
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Nope. Not Judy Miller. Can't stand her and never could. |
amandabeech |
Dec-14-06 01:04 AM |
#160 |
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I saw a map of Iraq showing the territories occupied by the Shias |
8_year_nightmare |
Dec-14-06 01:24 AM |
#162 |
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Shias are the majority of the population. |
amandabeech |
Dec-14-06 02:49 AM |
#165 |
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The Saudis have the Bush's blackmailed and could unleash..... |
kitty1 |
Dec-13-06 08:30 PM |
#144 |
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Impeachment now! |
Aviation Pro |
Dec-13-06 08:51 PM |
#145 |
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Official: Saudis to back Sunnis if U.S. leaves Iraq (AP/CNN) UPDATE: WH denies |
eppur_se_muova |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#146 |
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If we left it was going to cause chaos. They got chaos. If we left |
HereSince1628 |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#147 |
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Sounds like a plant to me |
edwardlindy |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#148 |
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"Bush White House in denial" As usual |
SpiralHawk |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#149 |
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Kissing kronies? But he looked deep into their eyes! He read their souls! |
eppur_se_muova |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#150 |
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Oil=money. |
amandabeech |
Dec-14-06 01:11 AM |
#161 |
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WH truthfulness |
azurnoir |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#151 |
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Hmmm...didn't the news make them out to be all smiles during that visit? |
Drum |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#152 |
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I heard on Air America last night that the last time SA ambassador resigned |
Contrite |
Dec-14-06 03:12 AM |
#166 |
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I hadn't seen that. |
Gregorian |
Dec-14-06 10:47 AM |
#168 |
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I can't post it--can you? |
Contrite |
Dec-14-06 08:39 PM |
#172 |
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THAT IS SOME SERIOUS SHIT...A MUST READ...NO WONDER THE FRENCH |
Tight_rope |
Dec-14-06 03:53 PM |
#171 |