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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:59 AM
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71. Anyone who thinks high level Saudis aren't already supporting the insurgency
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 01:00 AM by fujiyama
is in denial.

Where the hell else are the Sunni insurgents getting money from?

The media is likely a little slow - again.
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  -Breaking CNN: Saudis threaten to support Sunni insurgency... Fridays Child  Dec-12-06 09:41 PM   #0 
  - Between Iraq and a hard place, aren't we...?  ocelot   Dec-12-06 09:42 PM   #1 
  - Between Saudi Arabian Oil and a Shiite Hole.....  alittlelark   Dec-12-06 11:22 PM   #61 
     - Think Bush knows the difference...  davekriss   Dec-13-06 06:48 AM   #78 
     - Don't you mean  Bassic   Dec-13-06 07:06 AM   #79 
        - No Don't you really mean...  humbled_opinion   Dec-13-06 06:41 PM   #141 
           - Yeah, they're all good, but if we're talking about Freepers  Bassic   Dec-14-06 06:53 AM   #167 
  - The Saudis are getting a little freaked out  DoYouEverWonder   Dec-12-06 09:43 PM   #2 
  - On the other hand, if this is cover for Bush, I hope he gets...  Fridays Child   Dec-12-06 09:44 PM   #3 
  - Put it this way, the trip and the resignation had everything to do with  Miss Chybil   Dec-12-06 09:45 PM   #4 
  - lol, this entire world has turned into a goddamn Tom Clancy novel  WindRavenX   Dec-12-06 09:45 PM   #5 
  - So true. SO true. Except in the end of Tom Clancy novels we...  Poll_Blind   Dec-12-06 09:47 PM   #9 
  - and we're the good guys.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-12-06 09:50 PM   #14 
  - But something large usually blows up in the meantime.  shadowknows69   Dec-13-06 11:52 AM   #106 
  - That's exactly what I was thinking...  TwoSparkles   Dec-12-06 10:38 PM   #50 
  - I was reading a Tom Clancy novel  ForPeace   Dec-13-06 01:04 AM   #72 
  - Hi ForPeace! Welcome to DU!  Maraya1969   Dec-13-06 05:17 PM   #137 
  - You mean Jesus Christ on 2 popsicle sticks!  Tight_rope   Dec-13-06 08:55 AM   #90 
  - Clancy just loves Republicans....  ClintonTyree   Dec-13-06 11:52 AM   #107 
  - you are correct, WindRavenX  Skittles   Dec-13-06 02:19 PM   #123 
  - And if the U.S. stays?  rocknation   Dec-12-06 09:45 PM   #6 
  - So the U.S. in order to appease their Saudi masters...  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-12-06 09:45 PM   #7 
  - um... gets more interesting as time goes by.  rodeodance   Dec-12-06 09:46 PM   #8 
  - Recommend. Very newsworthy and I'll wager that's precisely why  babylonsister   Dec-12-06 09:47 PM   #10 
  - Yep, with so many lives in the balance, this is some high stakes maneuvering...  Fridays Child   Dec-12-06 09:51 PM   #15 
  - By cover, you mean the Saudi's threat could be his reasoning  babylonsister   Dec-12-06 09:55 PM   #17 
     - Bush has said, on a number of occasions, that oil-rich countries want to...  Fridays Child   Dec-12-06 10:07 PM   #23 
        - Yes, the tail is wagging the dog.  RiverStone   Dec-12-06 10:13 PM   #28 
        - Underneath the peace symbol?  Fridays Child   Dec-12-06 10:18 PM   #36 
           - Funny, I thought your avatar was the Burning Man symbol nt  Lucky Luciano   Dec-13-06 08:46 AM   #89 
        - The whole thing stinks and I think puts * in an untenable situation.  babylonsister   Dec-12-06 10:20 PM   #41 
        - I'll be both! nt  Fridays Child   Dec-12-06 10:33 PM   #49 
        - Dr. Rice....paging Dr. Rice...where oh where is the talented Sec. of State??  Supersedeas   Dec-13-06 02:47 PM   #125 
  - Unless Saud is sicker than we know....but the AC report is worrisome, isn't it?  MADem   Dec-12-06 10:18 PM   #35 
  - I don't understand what that has to do with issuing a threat  babylonsister   Dec-12-06 10:24 PM   #45 
     - It's "all in together" time. The House of Saud can't have a Sunni bloodbath in Iraq, they just  MADem   Dec-12-06 10:47 PM   #51 
        - Now that's the bundle of cheer I was expecting.  babylonsister   Dec-12-06 10:51 PM   #52 
        - Exactly--we don't know whether to laugh, cry or just go DAMN!!  MADem   Dec-12-06 11:05 PM   #56 
           - don't they want unending war?  redqueen   Dec-13-06 02:49 PM   #126 
              - Honestly? No. BushCo was in this for the OIL. Make no mistake.  MADem   Dec-13-06 03:08 PM   #127 
        - Only problem is...  Bushwick Bill   Dec-13-06 08:44 AM   #87 
           - Makes me wonder...  ponthedge   Dec-13-06 11:54 AM   #109 
           - Though we keep hearing that, as though it is gonna happen tomorrow, I regard it as a downstream  MADem   Dec-13-06 03:42 PM   #129 
              - The Saudis are building refineries for their very heavy sour stuff  amandabeech   Dec-13-06 09:45 PM   #154 
                 - What about the Empty Quarter? It is a huge area, untouched.  MADem   Dec-14-06 12:19 PM   #169 
  - That's why bush won't/hasn't pulled our troops out even though  Auntie Bush   Dec-12-06 10:20 PM   #43 
     - I'm scared, too, Auntie. What further hell has dimson wrought? nt  babylonsister   Dec-12-06 10:25 PM   #46 
  - Now we know why the Ambassador resigned today  Viva_La_Revolution   Dec-12-06 09:47 PM   #11 
  - Yes but is the resignation meant to underscore the seriousness...  Fridays Child   Dec-12-06 10:03 PM   #20 
     - Well, another theory is that Turki is getting spanked for letting Obaid blab to the WAPO NT  MADem   Dec-12-06 10:56 PM   #54 
  - Here's the link...  Fridays Child   Dec-12-06 09:48 PM   #12 
  - says here that SA told Cheney about this 2 WEEKS ago!  rodeodance   Dec-12-06 09:56 PM   #18 
  - Okey dokey. There's another dot. I suspect this was all planned...  Fridays Child   Dec-12-06 10:04 PM   #22 
  - say more about what you mean  grasswire   Dec-12-06 11:11 PM   #57 
     - You know, I'm not sure. It's just a feeling, at this point, that this will...  Fridays Child   Dec-13-06 12:43 AM   #69 
  - The only hope is a US coup that puts secular Shia Allawi in power  IndianaGreen   Dec-12-06 10:19 PM   #39 
  - His Name is "Prince Turki"?  ribofunk   Dec-13-06 09:56 AM   #98 
  - Article shows a little infighting between Bandar and Turki for Foreign Minister's  mod mom   Dec-12-06 10:16 PM   #33 
     - Interesting. Also that Bandar sold his big Mansion in Texas last Summer..  KoKo01   Dec-13-06 08:35 AM   #85 
  - Here is the discussion thread for amb. leaving. good dot connections  rodeodance   Dec-12-06 09:49 PM   #13 
  - Color-coded map of Iraq showing Sunni, Shia, Kurd areas:  Poll_Blind   Dec-12-06 09:54 PM   #16 
  - another wider area map also, here  uppityperson   Dec-12-06 10:01 PM   #19 
  - Thanks for these maps!  bigworld   Dec-12-06 10:16 PM   #34 
  - I agree, why would Iran consider an escalation with such a huge Sunni  mod mom   Dec-12-06 10:19 PM   #40 
     - And how does Russia play in this?  Tight_rope   Dec-13-06 10:52 AM   #102 
  - Wow! That changes the situation. Most the ME are Sunni and we're backing  Auntie Bush   Dec-12-06 11:00 PM   #55 
  - from what i read, We will stay and give it 'push" (more$, more troops,etc)  rodeodance   Dec-13-06 08:08 AM   #81 
  - "Bush* sure fuc*ed himself"  davekriss   Dec-13-06 08:18 AM   #84 
  - Yeah, well "our children" need to start deserting this sinking ship  NJCher   Dec-13-06 06:19 PM   #139 
  - I'd like a map showing oil deposits overlaid with Shi'ite areas  eridani   Dec-13-06 07:16 PM   #143 
  - Take a good look at this map. The mideast may never look like this again?  cassiepriam   Dec-13-06 05:17 AM   #77 
  - Good tip! We should buy stock in companies that specialize in map making.  Auntie Bush   Dec-13-06 09:15 AM   #93 
  - Amazing map. What are the chances Chimpy looked at this map  CLW   Dec-13-06 01:04 PM   #115 
  - That's pretty much on the mark--the Kurds certainly want that chunk up around  MADem   Dec-12-06 11:20 PM   #60 
  - If this is not handled perfectly  Mojorabbit   Dec-12-06 10:04 PM   #21 
  - It very well could have to do with both. What Army do they plan on using, I wonder?????  MADem   Dec-12-06 10:09 PM   #24 
  - says they will financial backing to Iraqi Sunni and we know they have $$  rodeodance   Dec-12-06 10:15 PM   #30 
     - Well, in a sick, BushCo fashion, if it's just going to be a money and guns exercise,  MADem   Dec-12-06 10:24 PM   #44 
        - Saudi/Sunni counterbalance...  MilesColtrane   Dec-13-06 03:52 PM   #132 
           - They've put out the call for volunteers to all of the sunni clerics  MADem   Dec-13-06 04:19 PM   #136 
  - Well this is another fine mess you have gotten us into.  Botany   Dec-12-06 10:12 PM   #25 
  - NYT: Saudis Give U.S. a Grim What If  rodeodance   Dec-12-06 10:13 PM   #26 
  - Say, THANKS for posting that article!!!  MADem   Dec-12-06 10:32 PM   #48 
     - and....did you notice article says he had not "Officially Resigned" as of Tuesday  KoKo01   Dec-13-06 09:01 AM   #91 
  - This feels too much like a show.  hang a left   Dec-12-06 10:13 PM   #27 
  - This would appear to be "the" story of the day. Thanks. eom  jarab   Dec-12-06 10:13 PM   #29 
  - It has to do with both, ambassador's resignation and Cheney's trip  IndianaGreen   Dec-12-06 10:15 PM   #31 
  - We didn't have a choice in who we backed  fujiyama   Dec-13-06 12:55 AM   #70 
     - Bush is planning his "Battle of the Bulge," the last battle for victory in Iraq  IndianaGreen   Dec-13-06 09:28 PM   #153 
  - so, I guess we stay!!  rodeodance   Dec-12-06 10:15 PM   #32 
  - SA is blackmailing us to stay in Iraq:  rodeodance   Dec-12-06 10:19 PM   #37 
  - Here's their pitch......Remember that awful three dollar a gallon gas?  MADem   Dec-12-06 11:15 PM   #59 
     - What you're saying coming true would not surprise me one bit...reminds me  Tight_rope   Dec-13-06 01:35 PM   #119 
     - That's about it! n/t  Megahurtz   Dec-13-06 01:41 PM   #120 
  - We are so screwn. America cannot afford to have Bush/Cheney representing us abroad.  Tatiana   Dec-12-06 10:19 PM   #38 
  - Forcing our hand equals blackmail. So, how much for how long? nt  babylonsister   Dec-12-06 11:15 PM   #58 
     - I agree.  rodeodance   Dec-13-06 08:08 AM   #82 
  - None of this had to happen  twilight_sailing   Dec-12-06 10:20 PM   #42 
  - That COMMA just became a semicolon.  Gregorian   Dec-12-06 10:29 PM   #47 
  - Total disaster is already in Iraq and the ME since poppy's flip  Amonester   Dec-13-06 10:50 PM   #158 
  - The Saudis are already  burrowowl   Dec-12-06 10:56 PM   #53 
  - I agree--I think we're being "scripted" again  rocknation   Dec-12-06 11:23 PM   #62 
     - Help me out ~ It is so hard to believe  goclark   Dec-12-06 11:36 PM   #63 
     - Maybe Cheney made a deal to save this presidency, or try to. nt  babylonsister   Dec-12-06 11:39 PM   #64 
     - The only thing Cheney's trying to save is his party's face.  rocknation   Dec-12-06 11:53 PM   #65 
        - If the US capitulates to SA and that's their reasoning for staying  babylonsister   Dec-13-06 12:00 AM   #66 
     - I'm thinking he'd like nothing better than to see someone light the fuse  Old and In the Way   Dec-13-06 12:16 AM   #68 
        - Thanks ~ they are truly Mad Dogs  goclark   Dec-13-06 10:35 AM   #100 
        - So there will be a playing-out between Big Oil and ME religious/tribal entities?  stubtoe   Dec-13-06 01:15 PM   #117 
     - They have no real Army, though  MADem   Dec-13-06 01:31 AM   #73 
  - Are we going to eventually see Saudia Arabia vs. Iran for control of Iraq?  Jennicut   Dec-13-06 12:08 AM   #67 
  - Anyone who thinks high level Saudis aren't already supporting the insurgency  fujiyama   Dec-13-06 12:59 AM   #71 
  - Of course, you're quite right. This is simply lifting the veil of plausible deniability.  MADem   Dec-13-06 01:40 AM   #74 
  - The Saudis have lots of younger sons.  aquart   Dec-13-06 03:31 AM   #75 
  - Did they happen to add a "PS"  lostnfound   Dec-13-06 05:00 AM   #76 
  - It's payback time...  Everybody   Dec-13-06 08:01 AM   #80 
  - Cheney summoned by Royals; Saudi Ambassador resigns and leaves the US; Saudis backing insurgents....  Roland99   Dec-13-06 08:11 AM   #83 
  - Here's a link for ya!  Tight_rope   Dec-13-06 08:44 AM   #86 
  - Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Us Into, Chimpy  Beetwasher   Dec-13-06 08:44 AM   #88 
  - Of course they are-anything to keep the radicals out of their country  underpants   Dec-13-06 09:06 AM   #92 
  - Weeeee! aren't stupid ill conceived wars of choice fun????  Javaman   Dec-13-06 09:28 AM   #94 
  - YES HE DOES  saigon68   Dec-13-06 09:31 AM   #96 
  - Yeah and don't forget his Pop  Megahurtz   Dec-13-06 01:50 PM   #121 
  - Aren't they already funding them - like they did the 911 attack  28erl   Dec-13-06 09:31 AM   #95 
  - What was it 15 out of the 19, 9-11 bombers were from saudi Arabia?  Imagevision   Dec-13-06 11:55 AM   #110 
  - Uh oh, don't make the masters mad...  RestoreGore   Dec-13-06 09:43 AM   #97 
  - Saudis want the Iraq oil but need Iraq in shambles before they  valerief   Dec-13-06 10:04 AM   #99 
  - Saudis threats - implementation worries CARTOON  ZENmud   Dec-13-06 10:35 AM   #101 
  - When they summoned Dick, they told him....And these are our "friends"  The Count   Dec-13-06 10:57 AM   #103 
  - Lol!  Megahurtz   Dec-13-06 01:56 PM   #122 
  - Stop the Outsourcing!!!!!  mrJJ   Dec-13-06 11:17 AM   #104 
  - Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall and it was Bush that gave him the push.  DuaneBidoux   Dec-13-06 11:40 AM   #105 
  - You mean, they aren't already doing that?  devilgrrl   Dec-13-06 11:53 AM   #108 
  - Invading Iraq was sure a good idea, though, wasn't it?!  mycritters2   Dec-13-06 12:01 PM   #111 
  - Bush is going to drag this out thru 2008, this man needs mental evaluation  Imagevision   Dec-13-06 12:11 PM   #112 
  - this has been the plan all along n/t  BrokenBeyondRepair   Dec-13-06 12:28 PM   #113 
  - So, we split...? and the Sauidi's can take over?!! how soon can we do this?  Imagevision   Dec-13-06 12:34 PM   #114 
  - The Saudis cannot take over. That's why they are balltwisting us to stay.  MADem   Dec-13-06 02:40 PM   #124 
     - The Saudis may not be able to ramp up production of any oil  amandabeech   Dec-13-06 10:05 PM   #157 
        - They can if it's already refined, and at bargain basement prices.  MADem   Dec-14-06 12:29 PM   #170 
  - That means that Saudis support Terrorism.  Higans   Dec-13-06 01:10 PM   #116 
  - The Saudis come to * rescue. * has no intention of withdrawing from Iraq.  genieroze   Dec-13-06 01:15 PM   #118 
  - So that's why Cheney went over...  sampsonblk   Dec-13-06 03:14 PM   #128 
  - In 1,400 years...  Chulanowa   Dec-13-06 03:46 PM   #130 
  - Aren't insurgents terrorists?  rman   Dec-13-06 03:47 PM   #131 
  - The MSM never tell you which sect or ethnic group is shooting at us  amandabeech   Dec-13-06 10:00 PM   #156 
     - If both Sunni and Shia want US troops out of Iraq, then who's killing  rman   Dec-14-06 02:27 AM   #163 
        - Mostly Shia are killing Sunnis and vice versa.  amandabeech   Dec-14-06 02:47 AM   #164 
  - A MSM question you will never hear:  PATRICK   Dec-13-06 04:11 PM   #133 
  - By Republican "logic"  svpadgham   Dec-13-06 04:13 PM   #134 
  - The Saudis feel compelled to aid the Iraqi Sunni, their co-religionists  entanglement   Dec-13-06 04:16 PM   #135 
  - Interestingly, Poppy Bush recently visited the Saudi's to assure them they could depend on his son >  Imagevision   Dec-13-06 05:21 PM   #138 
  - Don't forget the Saudis are in business with the Bushes  TOJ   Dec-13-06 06:20 PM   #140 
  - Sounds to me like the Saudi's are trying to help out Bush...  8_year_nightmare   Dec-13-06 07:03 PM   #142 
  - The Saudis are helping themselves as well.  amandabeech   Dec-13-06 09:55 PM   #155 
     - Is that you, Judy Miller?  8_year_nightmare   Dec-14-06 12:36 AM   #159 
        - Nope. Not Judy Miller. Can't stand her and never could.  amandabeech   Dec-14-06 01:04 AM   #160 
           - I saw a map of Iraq showing the territories occupied by the Shias  8_year_nightmare   Dec-14-06 01:24 AM   #162 
              - Shias are the majority of the population.  amandabeech   Dec-14-06 02:49 AM   #165 
  - The Saudis have the Bush's blackmailed and could unleash.....  kitty1   Dec-13-06 08:30 PM   #144 
  - Impeachment now!  Aviation Pro   Dec-13-06 08:51 PM   #145 
  - Official: Saudis to back Sunnis if U.S. leaves Iraq (AP/CNN) UPDATE: WH denies  eppur_se_muova   Dec-13-06 09:21 PM   #146 
  - If we left it was going to cause chaos. They got chaos. If we left  HereSince1628   Dec-13-06 09:21 PM   #147 
  - Sounds like a plant to me  edwardlindy   Dec-13-06 09:21 PM   #148 
  - "Bush White House in denial" As usual  SpiralHawk   Dec-13-06 09:21 PM   #149 
  - Kissing kronies? But he looked deep into their eyes! He read their souls!  eppur_se_muova   Dec-13-06 09:21 PM   #150 
  - Oil=money.  amandabeech   Dec-14-06 01:11 AM   #161 
  - WH truthfulness  azurnoir   Dec-13-06 09:21 PM   #151 
  - Hmmm...didn't the news make them out to be all smiles during that visit?  Drum   Dec-13-06 09:21 PM   #152 
  - I heard on Air America last night that the last time SA ambassador resigned  Contrite   Dec-14-06 03:12 AM   #166 
     - I hadn't seen that.  Gregorian   Dec-14-06 10:47 AM   #168 
     - I can't post it--can you?  Contrite   Dec-14-06 08:39 PM   #172 
     - THAT IS SOME SERIOUS SHIT...A MUST READ...NO WONDER THE FRENCH  Tight_rope   Dec-14-06 03:53 PM   #171 

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