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Tue Dec-12-06 10:15 PM
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| 30. says they will financial backing to Iraqi Sunni and we know they have $$ |
| -Breaking CNN: Saudis threaten to support Sunni insurgency... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 09:41 PM |
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Between Iraq and a hard place, aren't we...? |
ocelot |
Dec-12-06 09:42 PM |
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Between Saudi Arabian Oil and a Shiite Hole..... |
alittlelark |
Dec-12-06 11:22 PM |
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Think Bush knows the difference... |
davekriss |
Dec-13-06 06:48 AM |
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Don't you mean |
Bassic |
Dec-13-06 07:06 AM |
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No Don't you really mean... |
humbled_opinion |
Dec-13-06 06:41 PM |
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Yeah, they're all good, but if we're talking about Freepers |
Bassic |
Dec-14-06 06:53 AM |
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The Saudis are getting a little freaked out |
DoYouEverWonder |
Dec-12-06 09:43 PM |
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On the other hand, if this is cover for Bush, I hope he gets... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 09:44 PM |
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Put it this way, the trip and the resignation had everything to do with |
Miss Chybil |
Dec-12-06 09:45 PM |
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lol, this entire world has turned into a goddamn Tom Clancy novel |
WindRavenX |
Dec-12-06 09:45 PM |
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So true. SO true. Except in the end of Tom Clancy novels we... |
Poll_Blind |
Dec-12-06 09:47 PM |
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and we're the good guys. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-12-06 09:50 PM |
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But something large usually blows up in the meantime. |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-13-06 11:52 AM |
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That's exactly what I was thinking... |
TwoSparkles |
Dec-12-06 10:38 PM |
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I was reading a Tom Clancy novel |
ForPeace |
Dec-13-06 01:04 AM |
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Hi ForPeace! Welcome to DU! |
Maraya1969 |
Dec-13-06 05:17 PM |
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You mean Jesus Christ on 2 popsicle sticks! |
Tight_rope |
Dec-13-06 08:55 AM |
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Clancy just loves Republicans.... |
ClintonTyree |
Dec-13-06 11:52 AM |
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you are correct, WindRavenX |
Skittles |
Dec-13-06 02:19 PM |
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And if the U.S. stays? |
rocknation |
Dec-12-06 09:45 PM |
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So the U.S. in order to appease their Saudi masters... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-12-06 09:45 PM |
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um... gets more interesting as time goes by. |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 09:46 PM |
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Recommend. Very newsworthy and I'll wager that's precisely why |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 09:47 PM |
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Yep, with so many lives in the balance, this is some high stakes maneuvering... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 09:51 PM |
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By cover, you mean the Saudi's threat could be his reasoning |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 09:55 PM |
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Bush has said, on a number of occasions, that oil-rich countries want to... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 10:07 PM |
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Yes, the tail is wagging the dog. |
RiverStone |
Dec-12-06 10:13 PM |
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Underneath the peace symbol? |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 10:18 PM |
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Funny, I thought your avatar was the Burning Man symbol nt |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-13-06 08:46 AM |
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The whole thing stinks and I think puts * in an untenable situation. |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 10:20 PM |
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I'll be both! nt |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 10:33 PM |
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Dr. Rice....paging Dr. Rice...where oh where is the talented Sec. of State?? |
Supersedeas |
Dec-13-06 02:47 PM |
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Unless Saud is sicker than we know....but the AC report is worrisome, isn't it? |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:18 PM |
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I don't understand what that has to do with issuing a threat |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 10:24 PM |
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It's "all in together" time. The House of Saud can't have a Sunni bloodbath in Iraq, they just |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:47 PM |
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Now that's the bundle of cheer I was expecting. |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 10:51 PM |
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Exactly--we don't know whether to laugh, cry or just go DAMN!! |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 11:05 PM |
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don't they want unending war? |
redqueen |
Dec-13-06 02:49 PM |
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Honestly? No. BushCo was in this for the OIL. Make no mistake. |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 03:08 PM |
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Only problem is... |
Bushwick Bill |
Dec-13-06 08:44 AM |
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Makes me wonder... |
ponthedge |
Dec-13-06 11:54 AM |
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Though we keep hearing that, as though it is gonna happen tomorrow, I regard it as a downstream |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 03:42 PM |
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The Saudis are building refineries for their very heavy sour stuff |
amandabeech |
Dec-13-06 09:45 PM |
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What about the Empty Quarter? It is a huge area, untouched. |
MADem |
Dec-14-06 12:19 PM |
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That's why bush won't/hasn't pulled our troops out even though |
Auntie Bush |
Dec-12-06 10:20 PM |
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I'm scared, too, Auntie. What further hell has dimson wrought? nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 10:25 PM |
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Now we know why the Ambassador resigned today |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Dec-12-06 09:47 PM |
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Yes but is the resignation meant to underscore the seriousness... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 10:03 PM |
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Well, another theory is that Turki is getting spanked for letting Obaid blab to the WAPO NT |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:56 PM |
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Here's the link... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 09:48 PM |
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says here that SA told Cheney about this 2 WEEKS ago! |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 09:56 PM |
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Okey dokey. There's another dot. I suspect this was all planned... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-12-06 10:04 PM |
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say more about what you mean |
grasswire |
Dec-12-06 11:11 PM |
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You know, I'm not sure. It's just a feeling, at this point, that this will... |
Fridays Child |
Dec-13-06 12:43 AM |
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The only hope is a US coup that puts secular Shia Allawi in power |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-12-06 10:19 PM |
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His Name is "Prince Turki"? |
ribofunk |
Dec-13-06 09:56 AM |
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Article shows a little infighting between Bandar and Turki for Foreign Minister's |
mod mom |
Dec-12-06 10:16 PM |
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Interesting. Also that Bandar sold his big Mansion in Texas last Summer.. |
KoKo01 |
Dec-13-06 08:35 AM |
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Here is the discussion thread for amb. leaving. good dot connections |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 09:49 PM |
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Color-coded map of Iraq showing Sunni, Shia, Kurd areas: |
Poll_Blind |
Dec-12-06 09:54 PM |
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another wider area map also, here |
uppityperson |
Dec-12-06 10:01 PM |
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Thanks for these maps! |
bigworld |
Dec-12-06 10:16 PM |
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I agree, why would Iran consider an escalation with such a huge Sunni |
mod mom |
Dec-12-06 10:19 PM |
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And how does Russia play in this? |
Tight_rope |
Dec-13-06 10:52 AM |
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Wow! That changes the situation. Most the ME are Sunni and we're backing |
Auntie Bush |
Dec-12-06 11:00 PM |
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from what i read, We will stay and give it 'push" (more$, more troops,etc) |
rodeodance |
Dec-13-06 08:08 AM |
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"Bush* sure fuc*ed himself" |
davekriss |
Dec-13-06 08:18 AM |
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Yeah, well "our children" need to start deserting this sinking ship |
NJCher |
Dec-13-06 06:19 PM |
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I'd like a map showing oil deposits overlaid with Shi'ite areas |
eridani |
Dec-13-06 07:16 PM |
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Take a good look at this map. The mideast may never look like this again? |
cassiepriam |
Dec-13-06 05:17 AM |
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Good tip! We should buy stock in companies that specialize in map making. |
Auntie Bush |
Dec-13-06 09:15 AM |
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Amazing map. What are the chances Chimpy looked at this map |
CLW |
Dec-13-06 01:04 PM |
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That's pretty much on the mark--the Kurds certainly want that chunk up around |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 11:20 PM |
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If this is not handled perfectly |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-12-06 10:04 PM |
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It very well could have to do with both. What Army do they plan on using, I wonder????? |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:09 PM |
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says they will financial backing to Iraqi Sunni and we know they have $$ |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 10:15 PM |
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Well, in a sick, BushCo fashion, if it's just going to be a money and guns exercise, |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:24 PM |
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Saudi/Sunni counterbalance... |
MilesColtrane |
Dec-13-06 03:52 PM |
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They've put out the call for volunteers to all of the sunni clerics |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 04:19 PM |
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Well this is another fine mess you have gotten us into. |
Botany |
Dec-12-06 10:12 PM |
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NYT: Saudis Give U.S. a Grim What If |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 10:13 PM |
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Say, THANKS for posting that article!!! |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 10:32 PM |
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and....did you notice article says he had not "Officially Resigned" as of Tuesday |
KoKo01 |
Dec-13-06 09:01 AM |
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This feels too much like a show. |
hang a left |
Dec-12-06 10:13 PM |
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This would appear to be "the" story of the day. Thanks. eom |
jarab |
Dec-12-06 10:13 PM |
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It has to do with both, ambassador's resignation and Cheney's trip |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-12-06 10:15 PM |
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We didn't have a choice in who we backed |
fujiyama |
Dec-13-06 12:55 AM |
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Bush is planning his "Battle of the Bulge," the last battle for victory in Iraq |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-13-06 09:28 PM |
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so, I guess we stay!! |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 10:15 PM |
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SA is blackmailing us to stay in Iraq: |
rodeodance |
Dec-12-06 10:19 PM |
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Here's their pitch......Remember that awful three dollar a gallon gas? |
MADem |
Dec-12-06 11:15 PM |
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What you're saying coming true would not surprise me one bit...reminds me |
Tight_rope |
Dec-13-06 01:35 PM |
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That's about it! n/t |
Megahurtz |
Dec-13-06 01:41 PM |
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We are so screwn. America cannot afford to have Bush/Cheney representing us abroad. |
Tatiana |
Dec-12-06 10:19 PM |
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Forcing our hand equals blackmail. So, how much for how long? nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 11:15 PM |
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I agree. |
rodeodance |
Dec-13-06 08:08 AM |
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None of this had to happen |
twilight_sailing |
Dec-12-06 10:20 PM |
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That COMMA just became a semicolon. |
Gregorian |
Dec-12-06 10:29 PM |
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Total disaster is already in Iraq and the ME since poppy's flip |
Amonester |
Dec-13-06 10:50 PM |
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The Saudis are already |
burrowowl |
Dec-12-06 10:56 PM |
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I agree--I think we're being "scripted" again |
rocknation |
Dec-12-06 11:23 PM |
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Help me out ~ It is so hard to believe |
goclark |
Dec-12-06 11:36 PM |
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Maybe Cheney made a deal to save this presidency, or try to. nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-12-06 11:39 PM |
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The only thing Cheney's trying to save is his party's face. |
rocknation |
Dec-12-06 11:53 PM |
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If the US capitulates to SA and that's their reasoning for staying |
babylonsister |
Dec-13-06 12:00 AM |
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I'm thinking he'd like nothing better than to see someone light the fuse |
Old and In the Way |
Dec-13-06 12:16 AM |
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Thanks ~ they are truly Mad Dogs |
goclark |
Dec-13-06 10:35 AM |
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So there will be a playing-out between Big Oil and ME religious/tribal entities? |
stubtoe |
Dec-13-06 01:15 PM |
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They have no real Army, though |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 01:31 AM |
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Are we going to eventually see Saudia Arabia vs. Iran for control of Iraq? |
Jennicut |
Dec-13-06 12:08 AM |
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Anyone who thinks high level Saudis aren't already supporting the insurgency |
fujiyama |
Dec-13-06 12:59 AM |
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Of course, you're quite right. This is simply lifting the veil of plausible deniability. |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 01:40 AM |
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The Saudis have lots of younger sons. |
aquart |
Dec-13-06 03:31 AM |
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Did they happen to add a "PS" |
lostnfound |
Dec-13-06 05:00 AM |
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It's payback time... |
Everybody |
Dec-13-06 08:01 AM |
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Cheney summoned by Royals; Saudi Ambassador resigns and leaves the US; Saudis backing insurgents.... |
Roland99 |
Dec-13-06 08:11 AM |
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Here's a link for ya! |
Tight_rope |
Dec-13-06 08:44 AM |
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Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Us Into, Chimpy |
Beetwasher |
Dec-13-06 08:44 AM |
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Of course they are-anything to keep the radicals out of their country |
underpants |
Dec-13-06 09:06 AM |
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Weeeee! aren't stupid ill conceived wars of choice fun???? |
Javaman |
Dec-13-06 09:28 AM |
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YES HE DOES |
saigon68 |
Dec-13-06 09:31 AM |
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Yeah and don't forget his Pop |
Megahurtz |
Dec-13-06 01:50 PM |
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Aren't they already funding them - like they did the 911 attack |
28erl |
Dec-13-06 09:31 AM |
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What was it 15 out of the 19, 9-11 bombers were from saudi Arabia? |
Imagevision |
Dec-13-06 11:55 AM |
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Uh oh, don't make the masters mad... |
RestoreGore |
Dec-13-06 09:43 AM |
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Saudis want the Iraq oil but need Iraq in shambles before they |
valerief |
Dec-13-06 10:04 AM |
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Saudis threats - implementation worries CARTOON |
ZENmud |
Dec-13-06 10:35 AM |
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When they summoned Dick, they told him....And these are our "friends" |
The Count |
Dec-13-06 10:57 AM |
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Lol! |
Megahurtz |
Dec-13-06 01:56 PM |
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Stop the Outsourcing!!!!! |
mrJJ |
Dec-13-06 11:17 AM |
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Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall and it was Bush that gave him the push. |
DuaneBidoux |
Dec-13-06 11:40 AM |
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You mean, they aren't already doing that? |
devilgrrl |
Dec-13-06 11:53 AM |
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Invading Iraq was sure a good idea, though, wasn't it?! |
mycritters2 |
Dec-13-06 12:01 PM |
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Bush is going to drag this out thru 2008, this man needs mental evaluation |
Imagevision |
Dec-13-06 12:11 PM |
#112 |
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this has been the plan all along n/t |
BrokenBeyondRepair |
Dec-13-06 12:28 PM |
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So, we split...? and the Sauidi's can take over?!! how soon can we do this? |
Imagevision |
Dec-13-06 12:34 PM |
#114 |
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The Saudis cannot take over. That's why they are balltwisting us to stay. |
MADem |
Dec-13-06 02:40 PM |
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The Saudis may not be able to ramp up production of any oil |
amandabeech |
Dec-13-06 10:05 PM |
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They can if it's already refined, and at bargain basement prices. |
MADem |
Dec-14-06 12:29 PM |
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That means that Saudis support Terrorism. |
Higans |
Dec-13-06 01:10 PM |
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The Saudis come to * rescue. * has no intention of withdrawing from Iraq. |
genieroze |
Dec-13-06 01:15 PM |
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So that's why Cheney went over... |
sampsonblk |
Dec-13-06 03:14 PM |
#128 |
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In 1,400 years... |
Chulanowa |
Dec-13-06 03:46 PM |
#130 |
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Aren't insurgents terrorists? |
rman |
Dec-13-06 03:47 PM |
#131 |
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The MSM never tell you which sect or ethnic group is shooting at us |
amandabeech |
Dec-13-06 10:00 PM |
#156 |
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If both Sunni and Shia want US troops out of Iraq, then who's killing |
rman |
Dec-14-06 02:27 AM |
#163 |
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Mostly Shia are killing Sunnis and vice versa. |
amandabeech |
Dec-14-06 02:47 AM |
#164 |
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A MSM question you will never hear: |
PATRICK |
Dec-13-06 04:11 PM |
#133 |
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By Republican "logic" |
svpadgham |
Dec-13-06 04:13 PM |
#134 |
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The Saudis feel compelled to aid the Iraqi Sunni, their co-religionists |
entanglement |
Dec-13-06 04:16 PM |
#135 |
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Interestingly, Poppy Bush recently visited the Saudi's to assure them they could depend on his son > |
Imagevision |
Dec-13-06 05:21 PM |
#138 |
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Don't forget the Saudis are in business with the Bushes |
TOJ |
Dec-13-06 06:20 PM |
#140 |
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Sounds to me like the Saudi's are trying to help out Bush... |
8_year_nightmare |
Dec-13-06 07:03 PM |
#142 |
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The Saudis are helping themselves as well. |
amandabeech |
Dec-13-06 09:55 PM |
#155 |
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Is that you, Judy Miller? |
8_year_nightmare |
Dec-14-06 12:36 AM |
#159 |
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Nope. Not Judy Miller. Can't stand her and never could. |
amandabeech |
Dec-14-06 01:04 AM |
#160 |
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I saw a map of Iraq showing the territories occupied by the Shias |
8_year_nightmare |
Dec-14-06 01:24 AM |
#162 |
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Shias are the majority of the population. |
amandabeech |
Dec-14-06 02:49 AM |
#165 |
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The Saudis have the Bush's blackmailed and could unleash..... |
kitty1 |
Dec-13-06 08:30 PM |
#144 |
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Impeachment now! |
Aviation Pro |
Dec-13-06 08:51 PM |
#145 |
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Official: Saudis to back Sunnis if U.S. leaves Iraq (AP/CNN) UPDATE: WH denies |
eppur_se_muova |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#146 |
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If we left it was going to cause chaos. They got chaos. If we left |
HereSince1628 |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#147 |
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Sounds like a plant to me |
edwardlindy |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#148 |
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"Bush White House in denial" As usual |
SpiralHawk |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#149 |
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Kissing kronies? But he looked deep into their eyes! He read their souls! |
eppur_se_muova |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#150 |
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Oil=money. |
amandabeech |
Dec-14-06 01:11 AM |
#161 |
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WH truthfulness |
azurnoir |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#151 |
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Hmmm...didn't the news make them out to be all smiles during that visit? |
Drum |
Dec-13-06 09:21 PM |
#152 |
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I heard on Air America last night that the last time SA ambassador resigned |
Contrite |
Dec-14-06 03:12 AM |
#166 |
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I hadn't seen that. |
Gregorian |
Dec-14-06 10:47 AM |
#168 |
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I can't post it--can you? |
Contrite |
Dec-14-06 08:39 PM |
#172 |
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THAT IS SOME SERIOUS SHIT...A MUST READ...NO WONDER THE FRENCH |
Tight_rope |
Dec-14-06 03:53 PM |
#171 |
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