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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:51 PM
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49. $80
If I remember from like 6 years ago. $30 a year or something to keep two. one for my wife who works odd hours at a hospital, which is (as usual) in the most dangerous part of town. I took the course with her. I rarely carry a weapon. The total cost of both weapons was under $1100.

My wife and I do ok and make significant political and charitable donations.
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  -Alleged PS3 Thief Shot Dead by Police Nabeshin  Dec-04-06 12:36 PM   #0 
  - Does this seem conflicting to anyone else?  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-04-06 12:45 PM   #1 
  - Apparently he wanted to see a warrant, and they didn't have one.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 12:50 PM   #2 
     - Who knows  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-04-06 12:56 PM   #4 
        - They had a felony warrant  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 01:43 PM   #14 
           - There are better ways to execute a warrant  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-04-06 02:05 PM   #31 
           - You are right  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 02:28 PM   #42 
           - Entry team?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-04-06 04:53 PM   #89 
              - Jesus,  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 05:03 PM   #93 
                 - Jesus is doing bust and bakes?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-04-06 05:21 PM   #95 
                    - If this was a drug case  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 05:26 PM   #97 
  - hey he was an economic terra-ist.  antifaschits   Dec-04-06 12:55 PM   #3 
  - this is beyond obscene . . . stealing a PS3 may be a crime, but . . .  OneBlueSky   Dec-04-06 12:58 PM   #5 
  - Hard for me to feel sorry for the robber  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 01:36 PM   #10 
  - alledged robber.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 01:43 PM   #13 
     - Alleged unjust  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 01:45 PM   #15 
     - So why did they fail to provide a copy of the warrant?  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 01:46 PM   #16 
        - I have followed this on local news  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 01:53 PM   #22 
           - Again, why did they fail to provide a warrant?  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 01:55 PM   #24 
              - That is what the investigation will  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 02:03 PM   #29 
                 - "If they had a warrant the would show it."  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 02:05 PM   #30 
                    - Dude where do you live?  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 02:15 PM   #36 
                       - The United States of America.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 02:17 PM   #37 
                       - A new york state of mind  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 02:26 PM   #41 
                          - LOL. Y'all do things diffently down there, eh?  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 02:33 PM   #45 
                          - Nice  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 02:39 PM   #46 
                             - Oh, can it.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 03:06 PM   #53 
                                - get a grip  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 03:54 PM   #63 
                          - they did not follow him -- the robbery occurred on November 17  Ms. Clio   Dec-04-06 06:54 PM   #119 
                             - Arrest warrant requires no paper copy in nc  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 07:20 PM   #122 
                             - But they didn't merely arrest him, they broke down his door and entered his home  Ms. Clio   Dec-04-06 07:49 PM   #125 
                                - If they broke his door down  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 07:55 PM   #126 
                                - okay, thanks for the judicious response  Ms. Clio   Dec-04-06 08:00 PM   #127 
                                   - not sure  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 08:05 PM   #128 
                                      - See my post # 121  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 08:18 PM   #129 
                                      - okay, thanks again  Ms. Clio   Dec-04-06 09:03 PM   #131 
                                - Yes, that is generally true (I'm a very long time ACLU member)  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 08:20 PM   #130 
                             - Maybe i can help  TX-RAT   Dec-05-06 11:42 AM   #145 
                       - According to the roommate, the shooting victim and he were sitting  1monster   Dec-04-06 05:41 PM   #105 
                          - Never said it was..  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 05:49 PM   #107 
     - Bullshit. If I had witnessed the crime, I would have shot the bastard on  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 01:47 PM   #17 
        - Does that make you feel macho to say that?  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 01:49 PM   #18 
        - Ignored  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 01:51 PM   #20 
        - Dodged.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 01:51 PM   #21 
        - Wrong  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 01:54 PM   #23 
           - No, you can't use deadly force to stop a felony....  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 01:57 PM   #25 
              - I have a  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 02:11 PM   #33 
                 - key phrase "when life is at risk."  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 02:14 PM   #35 
                 - Your opinion is noted  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 02:19 PM   #38 
                    - I'm the one changing context?  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 02:20 PM   #39 
                    - ....  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 02:28 PM   #43 
                    - The key word being "reasonably."  benEzra   Dec-06-06 10:47 AM   #159 
                 - What a waste of money  wuushew   Dec-04-06 02:44 PM   #48 
                    - $80  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 02:51 PM   #49 
                    - ROFL...  Llewlladdwr   Dec-06-06 11:01 PM   #162 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-06 02:10 PM   #32 
        - Stopping an armed robbery is republican? Fine, I guess I am one then.  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 03:07 PM   #54 
        - Wow, Karl, you really don't sound like yourself today.  dicksteele   Dec-04-06 03:58 PM   #64 
           - Well, I'm not sure what you mean...have I ever defended anyone's right to  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 04:20 PM   #70 
              - No, and I sure would be unpleasantly surprised if you ever did!  dicksteele   Dec-04-06 05:16 PM   #94 
                 - It's okay, thank you for the kind words and sometimes I deserve criticism.  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 05:25 PM   #96 
                    - LIFE imitates ART imitating a lifelike portrait painted from a photo?  dicksteele   Dec-04-06 06:01 PM   #108 
                       - If I'm still around in 10 more years, that'll be reward enough!  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 06:15 PM   #112 
  - They beat someone and robbed them by force  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 01:41 PM   #12 
  - Nice of you to try him and convict him in a single post. Saves time, I suppose.  Katzenjammer   Dec-04-06 01:49 PM   #19 
     - In the grand scheme of things  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 01:59 PM   #28 
     - Think again.  Lance_Boyle   Dec-04-06 03:51 PM   #62 
  - I don't know about that.  genieroze   Dec-12-06 02:57 PM   #169 
  - Since his dad is a prominent area attorney  One_Life_To_Give   Dec-04-06 01:32 PM   #6 
  - Police shoot, kill teen Playstation robbery suspect  Judi Lynn   Dec-04-06 01:34 PM   #7 
  - Dead for six hundred bucks.  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 01:34 PM   #8 
  - More like $6100  heliarc   Dec-04-06 01:58 PM   #27 
     - ebay bids don't necessarily mean a sale at that price.  QuestionAll   Dec-04-06 02:23 PM   #40 
        - That's true  heliarc   Dec-05-06 03:56 AM   #139 
           - that's what they try to tell you- but it's not true.  QuestionAll   Dec-05-06 02:06 PM   #153 
              - So encouraging that there are DUer's who don't respect laws  heliarc   Dec-06-06 12:52 AM   #158 
  - he had his game, they had theirs.  truthisfreedom   Dec-04-06 01:34 PM   #9 
  - Oh, this is golden.  Nabeshin   Dec-04-06 03:04 PM   #51 
     - Be afraid in wilmington, very afraid  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 03:59 PM   #65 
     - Having held PS3 controllers and small pistols  NickB79   Dec-05-06 01:23 PM   #149 
  - The dead guy was charged with Assault with a deadly weapon,  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 01:39 PM   #11 
  - you keep on convicting him  zreosumgame   Dec-04-06 06:08 PM   #109 
     - If by involved you mean read the papers and  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 06:36 PM   #116 
  - The whole situation is a tragedy...  Union Thug   Dec-04-06 01:57 PM   #26 
  - You said it all. n/t  boobooday   Dec-06-06 07:33 PM   #160 
  - I don't feel too sorry for the guy, frankly.  closeupready   Dec-04-06 02:13 PM   #34 
  - No one has mentioned the murder of his dog by the police  wuushew   Dec-04-06 02:30 PM   #44 
  - It was a German shepherd, which is a big dog and  closeupready   Dec-04-06 02:43 PM   #47 
  - I'll suspend judgement until I know the whole story.  superconnected   Dec-04-06 02:57 PM   #50 
  - Fucking amazing.  TheMadMonk   Dec-04-06 03:06 PM   #52 
  - Did you see the thread...  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 03:11 PM   #55 
  - No. I presume the kid deserved that too?  TheMadMonk   Dec-04-06 03:20 PM   #56 
     - Apparently.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 03:29 PM   #60 
  - What do you mean?  closeupready   Dec-04-06 03:24 PM   #58 
  - According to the report, they had a warrant  NickB79   Dec-05-06 01:25 PM   #150 
  - You would be incorrect sir...  Llewlladdwr   Dec-06-06 11:09 PM   #163 
  - If he's guilty  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 03:23 PM   #57 
  - I see you are not a fan of the Constitution  wuushew   Dec-04-06 03:43 PM   #61 
  - Well  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 04:10 PM   #67 
     - His roommate claims otherwise  wuushew   Dec-04-06 04:21 PM   #71 
     - that's why  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 04:27 PM   #74 
        - "I'm assuming... this kid is guilty."  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 04:41 PM   #79 
        - apparently, only the police are presumed innocent in this case n/t  Ms. Clio   Dec-04-06 07:01 PM   #120 
        - Innocent until proven guilty only applies in a courtroom.  Llewlladdwr   Dec-06-06 11:12 PM   #164 
        - Only if the phrase "common sense" now means "cops are always correct".  dicksteele   Dec-04-06 04:43 PM   #83 
           - Hey  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 06:14 PM   #111 
           - Yeah, you're a regular legend in your own mind.  dicksteele   Dec-04-06 06:17 PM   #113 
           - Infuckingdeed.  Zhade   Dec-05-06 02:31 PM   #155 
     - Careful with that last comment:  fujiyama   Dec-04-06 06:27 PM   #114 
        - I agree with you  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 06:35 PM   #115 
           - I have no real problem  fujiyama   Dec-04-06 06:43 PM   #117 
              - Arrest warrants aren't the same as search warrants.  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 07:04 PM   #121 
                 - I guess my question, is, though, is it routine to execute an arrest warrant by knocking down  Ms. Clio   Dec-04-06 09:07 PM   #132 
                    - It isn't routine to the point of being more frequent than not, I suppose.  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 09:32 PM   #134 
                    - okay, thanks  Ms. Clio   Dec-04-06 09:58 PM   #136 
                    - Felony  TX-RAT   Dec-05-06 11:53 AM   #146 
                       - I see  Ms. Clio   Dec-05-06 01:31 PM   #152 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-06 04:03 PM   #66 
  - here ya go  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 04:11 PM   #68 
     - I guess that was the Double Jeopardy answer.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 04:15 PM   #69 
     - I have no idea  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 04:24 PM   #72 
        - Michael, in a non-fascist, democratic society...  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 04:26 PM   #73 
           - and  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 04:35 PM   #76 
              - "The only reason I added to this thread..."  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 04:39 PM   #78 
              - hahahahahahaha  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 04:41 PM   #80 
                 - Accuse you?  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 04:43 PM   #82 
                    - thanks  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 04:44 PM   #85 
              - Well, Strickland was hardly an angel. Some more history:  karlrschneider   Dec-04-06 04:41 PM   #81 
              - My goodness. Rap music.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 04:44 PM   #84 
              - you know what's cool?  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 04:50 PM   #86 
              - No, I saw it.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 04:52 PM   #88 
              - I see your point  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 04:57 PM   #90 
                 - alledged history of violence.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-04-06 04:59 PM   #91 
              - You know what's cooler?  TheMadMonk   Dec-05-06 04:47 AM   #140 
                 - Hmmm  TX-RAT   Dec-05-06 12:04 PM   #147 
                    - Correct. I mentioned this in my post # 121...  karlrschneider   Dec-05-06 12:13 PM   #148 
              - I think he means the assault w injury  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 04:51 PM   #87 
              - A note, most golf games  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 05:02 PM   #92 
              - Kinda like that old lady who got shot and killed in I think it was Atlanta...  Solon   Dec-04-06 05:28 PM   #98 
                 - Correct, the SBI  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 05:29 PM   #99 
     - And I now realize that your sigline is a TRIBUTE.  dicksteele   Dec-04-06 04:33 PM   #75 
        - man o man  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 04:36 PM   #77 
           - roomate stated he was going to the door when they busted it down  fleabert   Dec-04-06 05:34 PM   #101 
           - How many felony arrests are conducted  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 05:38 PM   #104 
              - according to what I have read, I am at the conclusion that it appears  fleabert   Dec-04-06 09:43 PM   #135 
                 - Not my post  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 10:18 PM   #137 
                    - you responded to my post in a bit of an uproar,  fleabert   Dec-05-06 01:46 AM   #138 
           - Wow, you're spinning so fast even your STRAWMAN is confused.  dicksteele   Dec-04-06 05:35 PM   #102 
              - Fail to follow instructions and move your hands  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 05:46 PM   #106 
                 - I give up  MichaelHarris   Dec-04-06 06:10 PM   #110 
                 - Yep, you're right.  superconnected   Dec-04-06 07:35 PM   #124 
                 - I am always going to err on the side of innocent until proven guilty  fleabert   Dec-05-06 06:53 PM   #156 
                 - And that's a GOOD thing in your opinion? Or does it just make you feel big to say it?  dicksteele   Dec-04-06 06:45 PM   #118 
                    - You are fucking lucky, buy lotto for me  Pavulon   Dec-04-06 07:26 PM   #123 
  - unfucking believable.  fleabert   Dec-04-06 05:31 PM   #100 
  - Sickening this is what terror fear mongering gets us. n/t  humbled_opinion   Dec-04-06 03:25 PM   #59 
  - Sounds like excessive force by the police, but not enough information  slackmaster   Dec-04-06 05:36 PM   #103 
  - a lot of holes in this story  Blue_Tires   Dec-04-06 09:13 PM   #133 
  - Where were their tazers? That's what I'd like to know.  Katzenjammer   Dec-05-06 08:37 AM   #141 
  - That's a good point.  closeupready   Dec-05-06 09:40 AM   #143 
  - One man beaten and another shot to death over a FUCKING GAME!  Tight_rope   Dec-05-06 09:01 AM   #142 
  - The beating was indeed over the game  slackmaster   Dec-05-06 01:28 PM   #151 
  - Sony must be so proud of the free publicity  Canuckistanian   Dec-05-06 09:52 AM   #144 
  - "Of course, it doesn't help that people fall for this crap every time."  Katzenjammer   Dec-05-06 02:26 PM   #154 
  - i still support tranq guns and mancatchers to replace police arsenal  NuttyFluffers   Dec-05-06 09:44 PM   #157 
  - There's an old saying...  Miss Chybil   Dec-06-06 08:26 PM   #161 
  - In a civilized society cops don't walk into alleged criminals' houses and blow their brains out  Hippo_Tron   Dec-12-06 01:01 PM   #168 
  - Cop charged with 2nd degree murder.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-12-06 12:46 PM   #165 
  - In a civilized society thugs like this kid are entitled to a trial and a fair sentence  Hippo_Tron   Dec-12-06 12:57 PM   #166 
  - isn't that two dead now in the great PS3 wars  leftofthedial   Dec-12-06 12:58 PM   #167 
 

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