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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 02:06 PM
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94. VVPATs in their present form definitely suck
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 02:06 PM by slackmaster
That does not mean they cannot be made reliable and usable. The NIST draft paper does not share Brad's conclusion that they are hopeless.

They are not accurate, they jam, they mismatch the internal count almost every time anybody bothers to audit them, and voters don't actually check them in many cases.

All true, but those are not insurmountable problems.

If you happen to be informed enough to lift that door, you'll then find a magnifying glass which Diebold includes with every machine.

Then, you'll have to hope your ballot isn't long enough that the results scroll by the window before you can "verify" it. If you happen to know to do so.


I voted on a Diebold machine with a VVPAT in California this year. It did not have the opaque door you describe. The VVPAT scrolled exactly in sync with the ballot review on the GUI, and even with my 48-year-old eyes I had no trouble at all reading it. I would agree that the print was small enough to be a problem for some people. Again, not an insurmountable problem.

Audits of the paper trail v. the machine count continuously find they don't match.

Sure, and consecutive hand-counts of a stack of hundreds of ballots done by different individuals often don't match either.

And then what? In California, for example, the paper is NOT the "ballot of record".

In the event of a machine failure in which the memory is lost, the paper becomes the ballot of record.
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