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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:26 PM
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124. you have completely missed the point.
:rofl: !

What Chavez is doing here can be seen as vote pandering by anyone whose ideological blinkers don't prevent them from doing a little critical thinking. That Bush has engaged in some shady maneuvers regarding our elections doesn't somehow absolve Chavez from the same, I would think.

Or does it?

Apparently a lot of people on this thread think it's ok... as long as it's their guy doing the maneuvers.
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  -Chavez angers opposition leaders bemildred  Nov-02-06 10:11 AM   #0 
  - nice operation hes got goin there. eom.  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 10:15 AM   #1 
  - Yes. And he was elected, unlike our dear leader....n/t  John Q. Citizen   Nov-02-06 11:09 AM   #10 
     - Somehow  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 11:18 AM   #11 
     - Well, Then You Dislike the American Government More... (nt)  stepnw1f   Nov-02-06 11:29 AM   #13 
     - Well the American Gov't is more hateful that the Venezualen gov't  bobbie   Nov-02-06 06:22 PM   #72 
        - Can you back that claim up? NT  sapper   Nov-03-06 02:01 PM   #117 
           - You owe it to yourself to start reading. It would give you the information  Judi Lynn   Nov-03-06 02:04 PM   #118 
     - Then you might want to do a little research on Venezuela  sfexpat2000   Nov-02-06 11:31 AM   #14 
     - Your suggestion is appreciated  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 11:36 AM   #16 
     - Why do you state lies as if they were facts?  Solon   Nov-02-06 11:45 AM   #18 
     - "seems able". meaning however he did it  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 12:06 PM   #24 
        - Depends on what you are talking about...  Solon   Nov-02-06 01:53 PM   #32 
        - Surely wish people would look into recent Venezuelan history BEFORE making  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 02:11 PM   #37 
           - Fighting the good fight I see Judi  bobbie   Nov-02-06 06:14 PM   #70 
        - Maybe Chavez' agenda IS the people's agenda.  roody   Nov-02-06 07:45 PM   #86 
        - I did not try to make a case for the reverse  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 07:48 PM   #88 
        - $3Billion Christmas bonus will get one lots of support... NT  sapper   Nov-03-06 02:09 PM   #119 
           - Kinda like tax breaks to the top 1%, huh?  drdtroit   Nov-04-06 12:12 PM   #136 
     - You may not know that the points you are repeating are  sfexpat2000   Nov-02-06 11:56 AM   #20 
     - I get information from as many reliable sources  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 11:59 AM   #21 
        - Not a cheap shot. Look at how hard it is to get information  sfexpat2000   Nov-02-06 12:12 PM   #27 
        - Hey - if it's deserved, you got it!  TankLV   Nov-03-06 12:56 PM   #113 
     - I'm not sure the Constitution has been amended since '99.  PeaceProgProsp   Nov-02-06 02:10 PM   #36 
     - This is all very interesting  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 02:20 PM   #40 
     - The "opposition" party has controlled Venezuela for ages, until  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 02:31 PM   #45 
     - You can ask  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 02:37 PM   #47 
        - You're not really "discussing" if you're overlaying reality with misinformation.n/t  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 02:48 PM   #48 
           - Where exactly was that?  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 02:53 PM   #49 
              - Maybe there's another way one can "read" your post:  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 03:12 PM   #51 
                 - I didn't say "organized"  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 03:34 PM   #53 
                    - Invest some time researching the subject, and you will be able to  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 03:40 PM   #55 
                    - Rude is something you seem to have experience with  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 03:48 PM   #58 
                    - Oh Jim, at least be able to dispute people in an informed manner  bobbie   Nov-02-06 07:02 PM   #76 
                    - I did not pontificate or take any strong "uninformed" positions for  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 07:47 PM   #87 
                    - Point out where Judi was being "rude" and "snippy".  TankLV   Nov-03-06 01:04 PM   #114 
                    - He uses state money to fund MASSIVE election campaigns  Threedifferentones   Nov-03-06 03:17 PM   #120 
                       - Be good enough to provide some information on Chavez using  Judi Lynn   Nov-03-06 03:25 PM   #121 
                          - Well I read the article posted  Threedifferentones   Nov-03-06 06:47 PM   #127 
                             - Of course read the article. Didn't assume for a moment what the  Judi Lynn   Nov-03-06 10:27 PM   #131 
                                - The comparison was meant to shock and offend, because of the  Threedifferentones   Nov-05-06 01:57 PM   #141 
                    - Shoot then, I am venezuelan and follow this as closely as anyone  Flanker   Nov-02-06 03:48 PM   #57 
                    - Hi, Flanker. Now I understand why it is you have always been so well  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 03:52 PM   #60 
                    - I will the next time.  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 03:52 PM   #61 
                    - Yes! A real Venezuelan. Must probe...  bobbie   Nov-02-06 07:28 PM   #81 
                    - With all due respect, none of the posts have addressed  Lil Red   Nov-03-06 06:22 PM   #123 
                    - Basically, Jim, the reality in Venezuela is this...  Ken Burch   Nov-03-06 06:40 PM   #126 
     - It's not Chavez's fault that people hate the opposition.  PeaceProgProsp   Nov-02-06 03:38 PM   #54 
     - Was the constitution amended when Chavez almost doubled the size of the courts  FormerDem06   Nov-02-06 03:58 PM   #62 
        - The 99 constitution does not say anything about the number of Judges  Flanker   Nov-02-06 04:13 PM   #65 
           - Thank you, I wasn't sure how that occurred....  FormerDem06   Nov-03-06 09:10 AM   #108 
     - Have you been paying attention to the rewriting of our constitution  dkofos   Nov-02-06 03:47 PM   #56 
     - Yeah. Why won't the US gov't amend the constitution & dump the electoral college?  bobbie   Nov-02-06 06:36 PM   #75 
     - "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" -- Excellent look at CIA coup attempt  bobbie   Nov-02-06 06:27 PM   #73 
     - Our dear leader was appointed, according to President Carter. I know  John Q. Citizen   Nov-02-06 11:33 AM   #15 
     - I think questioning of the election system  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 11:41 AM   #17 
        - If Harris hadn't criminally disenfrachised the 50,000 voters  John Q. Citizen   Nov-02-06 11:55 AM   #19 
        - If the SCOTUS hadn't shut down the vote, Gore would've won.  Selatius   Nov-02-06 12:02 PM   #22 
        - Huge tactical error I think  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 12:08 PM   #25 
        - I'm seeing how you think, Jim4Wes. All our votes are now "counted" by  Peace Patriot   Nov-02-06 07:27 PM   #80 
        - How long did you spend writin that friend?  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 07:44 PM   #84 
        - It's a waste of your time to be honest?  1932   Nov-03-06 01:42 AM   #103 
           - That sure came out badly.  Jim4Wes   Nov-03-06 05:39 AM   #104 
        - Thank you Peace Patriot for a fantastic post  bobbie   Nov-02-06 07:58 PM   #91 
        - Do the laws of science and math count as evidence to you personally?  greyhound1966   Nov-02-06 07:29 PM   #82 
           - But that is such a poor basis to prove anything  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 07:45 PM   #85 
              - So you don't understand math, and the answer is no.  greyhound1966   Nov-03-06 08:29 AM   #105 
                 - Rrrrr............ight.  Jim4Wes   Nov-03-06 08:59 AM   #107 
                    - LOL! As if it would make a difference.  greyhound1966   Nov-03-06 09:54 AM   #110 
                    - What I expected  Jim4Wes   Nov-03-06 11:15 AM   #111 
                    - "you can't win if you don't play" buy lottery tickets...  greyhound1966   Nov-03-06 11:47 AM   #112 
     - They use electronic voting machines without paper trails  Freddie Stubbs   Nov-02-06 02:04 PM   #34 
     - May I refer you to DU'er "Peace Patriot's" INFORMED post, quoted in  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 02:17 PM   #39 
     - This is GROSSLY INCORRECT  Flanker   Nov-02-06 03:00 PM   #50 
        - Thanks for the info.! n/t  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 03:14 PM   #52 
           - You're welcome  Flanker   Nov-02-06 03:50 PM   #59 
     - Oh Jim Jim Jim, can you really fail to see that we've rarely been allowed  bobbie   Nov-02-06 06:17 PM   #71 
     - I'm glad you are so informed on events  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 07:21 PM   #79 
        - Thanks Jim4Wes  bobbie   Nov-02-06 08:17 PM   #93 
           - Good one! Isn't it a delight liberals can all count on coming to D.U. to discuss  Judi Lynn   Nov-03-06 01:32 PM   #116 
              - that's only true if you think that "discussion"  paulk   Nov-03-06 03:54 PM   #122 
                 - Hey I don't mind informed disagreement about Prez Chavez  bobbie   Nov-03-06 08:54 PM   #128 
                    - would you accept the argument, then  paulk   Nov-04-06 01:44 PM   #138 
     - Not true at all.  Rex   Nov-02-06 10:20 PM   #100 
     - You bet he was elected. Some right-wingdings use the fact he was elected  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 12:04 PM   #23 
        - good information...  Jim4Wes   Nov-02-06 12:13 PM   #28 
           - Beyond the reach of politics! Absolutely. n/t  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 12:16 PM   #30 
  - Good for Hugo!  hippiechick   Nov-02-06 10:20 AM   #2 
  - I am a public school teacher and  roody   Nov-02-06 07:52 PM   #90 
  - Yes, the man is smart and tough  bobbie   Nov-02-06 08:31 PM   #95 
  - Venezuela to sell heavily discounted oil to D.C.  bemildred   Nov-02-06 10:39 AM   #3 
  - How DARE he?  gratuitous   Nov-02-06 10:41 AM   #4 
  - Commie Pinko Madman!  sfexpat2000   Nov-02-06 10:43 AM   #5 
  - Chavez is so far ahead, he doesn't need to do this  Tempest   Nov-02-06 10:48 AM   #6 
  - It's odd to see a national leader act for some other reason than  sfexpat2000   Nov-02-06 11:24 AM   #12 
  - He is smart too  FormerDem06   Nov-02-06 04:02 PM   #63 
     - Do you have any information you could post on this maneuver?  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 04:05 PM   #64 
        - There are always conspiracy theories one of them is that  Flanker   Nov-02-06 04:35 PM   #66 
        - I am trying to find the link now....  FormerDem06   Nov-03-06 09:31 AM   #109 
  - Viva Chavez!!!  shance   Nov-02-06 10:49 AM   #7 
  - Viva Prez Chavez!  bobbie   Nov-02-06 07:15 PM   #77 
     - VIVA CHAVEZ! Wake up've been sold up river!  OKthatsIT   Nov-03-06 08:32 AM   #106 
        - I just *knew* that I'd glance at your lame post and see *no* details  bobbie   Nov-03-06 08:57 PM   #129 
  - The "opposition" will ALWAYS be furious until they get total control  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 10:50 AM   #8 
  - Nice to see indigenous faces running Venezuela.  lumpy   Nov-02-06 02:26 PM   #44 
  - It's beautiful, isn't it? And it's about time. n/t  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 02:32 PM   #46 
  - Bingo, you nailed it!  bobbie   Nov-02-06 08:20 PM   #94 
  - Those are fantastic pictures!  bobbie   Nov-02-06 08:45 PM   #96 
  - roflmao!!!!!... Hugo is a ball buster!  goforit   Nov-02-06 10:51 AM   #9 
  - Oh no kidding!  bobbie   Nov-02-06 09:20 PM   #98 
  - Opposition leaders are reduced to displaying impotent rage.  Selatius   Nov-02-06 12:11 PM   #26 
  - You're right! They miss their "power," and they don't like sharing, especially  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 12:14 PM   #29 
  - if Bush did this, would it be ok?  paulk   Nov-02-06 01:19 PM   #31 
  - The situations are far different...  Solon   Nov-02-06 02:00 PM   #33 
  - only if he'd follow through with it  0rganism   Nov-02-06 02:05 PM   #35 
  - He yammers eternally about his gifts to the "little man," in the form  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 02:25 PM   #43 
     - would you be ok with GW Bush  paulk   Nov-02-06 04:56 PM   #67 
        - Do you have links to information on the funding and circumstances  Judi Lynn   Nov-02-06 06:03 PM   #68 
        - blah, blah, blah  paulk   Nov-02-06 06:30 PM   #74 
           - Because they are not his base, if he did that  Flanker   Nov-02-06 07:17 PM   #78 
           - That's pretty much what FDR did, he directly created jobs and changed the  greyhound1966   Nov-02-06 07:35 PM   #83 
           - You're right. Chavez should have just scared the crap out of  sfexpat2000   Nov-02-06 10:52 PM   #101 
              - you have completely missed the point.  paulk   Nov-03-06 06:26 PM   #124 
                 - What exactly do you think the maneuver is?  1932   Nov-03-06 10:29 PM   #132 
                    - did you read the article this thread is predicated on?  paulk   Nov-04-06 11:45 AM   #134 
        - Yeah, it's a little over the top--an early Christmas bonus, free bus rides,  Peace Patriot   Nov-02-06 08:58 PM   #97 
        - Great post!  GirlinContempt   Nov-05-06 02:34 PM   #143 
        - If bunkerboy did that, then he'd be a DEMOCRAT and wouldn't be bunkerboy!  TankLV   Nov-03-06 01:23 PM   #115 
           - why do you assume that the people he gave bonuses to  paulk   Nov-03-06 06:38 PM   #125 
              - I've answered the question, you've indicated your ignorance of the matter...  TankLV   Nov-03-06 09:39 PM   #130 
                 - that's the best you can do?  paulk   Nov-04-06 12:08 PM   #135 
  - Bush would never empower working people.  PeaceProgProsp   Nov-02-06 02:13 PM   #38 
  - Bush giving back to the working class  MATTMAN   Nov-02-06 08:09 PM   #92 
  - He's already done it! More millions to the millionares, don't you see?  drdtroit   Nov-04-06 12:28 PM   #137 
  - so wait... is this news? when did they stop being angry?  0rganism   Nov-02-06 02:22 PM   #41 
  - meanwhile, state-side Republicans halt smart flu shot logistics  cosmicdot   Nov-02-06 02:22 PM   #42 
  - That *fiend*! That monster! Sharing the wealth!????  bobbie   Nov-02-06 06:13 PM   #69 
  - Good for Chavez  MATTMAN   Nov-02-06 07:49 PM   #89 
  - The nerve! To give out Christmas bonuses before Christmas so people  leesa   Nov-02-06 09:59 PM   #99 
  - MUST SEE: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (documentary)  upi402   Nov-02-06 11:11 PM   #102 
  - A transparent attempt at buying votes  Nevernose   Nov-03-06 11:07 PM   #133 
  - Opposition leaders deserve no quarter after they tried to over-  MasonJar   Nov-04-06 03:34 PM   #139 
  - So Chavez pisses off the Venezuelan elites again, heh?  IndianaGreen   Nov-04-06 03:38 PM   #140 
  - how dare he share petro-dollar benefits with the people?  antifaschits   Nov-05-06 02:04 PM   #142 
  - I love the fact that there's so much interest in President Chavez here  bobbie   Nov-05-06 03:50 PM   #144 

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