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Sat Oct-21-06 02:15 PM
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The simple fact of the matter is that the Democrats need Lieberman a hell of a lot more than he needs us. Remember Jim Jeffords? Add to that the fact that a lot of the Democratic leadership isn't particularly happy with the netroots' fucking with a safe seat. Is this really so difficult to understand?
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| -Lieberman Opens 17-Point Lead In Connecticut, Poll Finds |
robcon |
Oct-20-06 08:37 AM |
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No way that poll is accurate!! |
monarch |
Oct-20-06 08:39 AM |
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i agree |
bigscott |
Oct-20-06 08:40 AM |
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Yes it Is. |
greccogirl |
Oct-20-06 09:31 AM |
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You seem happy about that. Lieberman is a neocon. |
against all enemies |
Oct-20-06 04:27 PM |
#70 |
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Actually I just think she was telling the facts |
LynneSin |
Oct-20-06 05:57 PM |
#84 |
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Yes. I don't think Lamont has |
greccogirl |
Oct-21-06 12:21 AM |
#108 |
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I didn't say I was happy. |
greccogirl |
Oct-21-06 12:19 AM |
#107 |
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LIMPMANN IS BUSH " LITE" |
saigon68 |
Oct-21-06 08:10 PM |
#143 |
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Yes, but he still |
greccogirl |
Oct-22-06 10:30 PM |
#174 |
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I didn't read it that way; the poster is just pointing out a fact |
barb162 |
Oct-22-06 01:19 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-20-06 11:33 PM |
#106 |
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Well since I don't live in that |
greccogirl |
Oct-21-06 12:22 AM |
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sorry, but the Q-poll is flawed and does not include 2nd debate |
ihelpu2see |
Oct-22-06 09:12 AM |
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It probably is, that's what happens when grassroots insist on pushing |
cryingshame |
Oct-20-06 12:02 PM |
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It's what happens when RIGHT WING DEMOCRATS don't vote for the party. |
Tesha |
Oct-20-06 04:41 PM |
#72 |
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centrists get a special pass |
darboy |
Oct-20-06 07:51 PM |
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Wish I could nominate this reply |
Jax |
Oct-21-06 11:21 AM |
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Thank you. (NT) |
Tesha |
Oct-21-06 05:49 PM |
#136 |
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What are you saying, we should've NOT talked about the war? |
Ken Burch |
Oct-20-06 07:35 PM |
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However, there are LIeberman supporters for whom the war is not |
CTyankee |
Oct-20-06 07:52 PM |
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The salient point- Lamont has successfully been tarred as ONE ISSUE |
cryingshame |
Oct-21-06 08:24 PM |
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The way you say that, it sounds like you think it serves Lamont right |
Ken Burch |
Oct-22-06 02:35 AM |
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Quinnipiac - Oct 2000: Hillary slipping, neck in neck with Lazio |
The Count |
Oct-20-06 02:34 PM |
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They still had her up 3pts, which is the same that Zogby had |
rinsd |
Oct-20-06 02:55 PM |
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You feel the poll is inaccurate |
slackmaster |
Oct-20-06 05:29 PM |
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Interesting that you show up to support a pro Lieberman poll |
billbuckhead |
Oct-20-06 09:07 PM |
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Je ne comprends pas. |
marmar |
Oct-20-06 08:40 AM |
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Republicans were voting for Lamont?... |
Kagemusha |
Oct-20-06 08:49 AM |
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Sure. |
TheWraith |
Oct-20-06 02:00 PM |
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On average? |
Concerned GA Voter |
Oct-20-06 03:52 PM |
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Every poll ever conducted? |
TheWraith |
Oct-20-06 04:45 PM |
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You can't have an "up to" figure that is "on average" |
Concerned GA Voter |
Oct-20-06 06:37 PM |
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I meant, in an average race. |
TheWraith |
Oct-21-06 10:43 PM |
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I don't want to sound pessimistic... |
brooklynite |
Oct-20-06 09:03 AM |
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Very good analogy |
greccogirl |
Oct-21-06 12:33 AM |
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what you are saying, essentially |
darboy |
Oct-22-06 10:26 AM |
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Goddamn it, why didn't Harry Reid make it clear the day after the primary |
Ken Burch |
Oct-20-06 09:07 AM |
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One has to wonder. |
quiet.american |
Oct-20-06 09:13 AM |
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What choice did he have? |
dmallind |
Oct-20-06 10:01 AM |
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Because Reid will need Joe . . . |
toopers |
Oct-20-06 11:51 AM |
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Good luck with that. better chances with Bush than Joe I'm afraid. |
The Count |
Oct-20-06 11:57 AM |
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Lordy... |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 02:48 PM |
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What "reality" are you saying we should accept? |
Ken Burch |
Oct-22-06 02:37 AM |
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"The leadership" is not responsible for Ned going down to defeat. |
yibbehobba |
Oct-22-06 07:42 AM |
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That makes it impossible for the "netroots" to decide where to work... |
Ken Burch |
Oct-22-06 08:12 AM |
#161 |
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Well... |
yibbehobba |
Oct-22-06 09:39 AM |
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Joe wouldn't be winning if Reid had made it clear |
Ken Burch |
Oct-20-06 12:51 PM |
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That's untrue . . . |
toopers |
Oct-20-06 01:55 PM |
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Because he is a frightened, hand-wringing little girl. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-20-06 12:04 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Oct-21-06 04:37 AM |
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Could've done without the "obeys his Israeli masters" line |
Ken Burch |
Oct-21-06 04:43 PM |
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Because they can't make changes midterm with a full vote |
krispos42 |
Oct-20-06 12:54 PM |
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It certaintly didn't help that a few Democrats went against Lamont... |
BlueStater |
Oct-20-06 01:51 PM |
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I doubt that would make |
greccogirl |
Oct-21-06 12:25 AM |
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Because... |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 02:15 PM |
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You're defending the Democratic leadership for sabotaging a Democratic |
Ken Burch |
Oct-22-06 02:38 AM |
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I'm not defending it. |
yibbehobba |
Oct-22-06 07:03 AM |
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Because Reid will want him on his side when Lieberman wins |
barb162 |
Oct-22-06 01:27 AM |
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They luv dead hand Joe I guess. |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-20-06 09:15 AM |
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What happened to all the grassroots efforts for lamont? |
wisteria |
Oct-20-06 09:35 AM |
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Exactly. |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 02:34 PM |
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Dean's rallying with Ned today, and there's a good ad out with Dodd |
Rose Siding |
Oct-20-06 09:49 AM |
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How can this be...what is wrong with CT., the war is going real bad |
movonne |
Oct-20-06 10:03 AM |
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I don't think it's the war. |
robcon |
Oct-20-06 10:26 AM |
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The problem is that there are tons of Democrats more Republican |
Flanker |
Oct-20-06 10:49 AM |
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CT has tons of rich Democrats, that's why |
krispos42 |
Oct-20-06 01:11 PM |
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Iraq is NOT the only issue, but it's what grassroots insisted on |
cryingshame |
Oct-20-06 12:04 PM |
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Yup. Plus, the average Connecticut voter probably isn't |
brentspeak |
Oct-20-06 03:58 PM |
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Ned talked about a lot of other issues. |
Ken Burch |
Oct-20-06 11:22 PM |
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That poster called the war a "hobbyhorse" for activists. |
Zhade |
Oct-22-06 07:08 PM |
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Will you stop bashing the grassroots already? |
Ken Burch |
Oct-22-06 02:42 AM |
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It's called incumbancy. n/t |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 01:46 PM |
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Connectificut... |
Stand and Fight |
Oct-20-06 10:29 AM |
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CT HAS OLD LEVER MACHINES..NOTNEW DRE'S...N/T |
flyarm |
Oct-20-06 12:38 PM |
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they have to start fighting like JOE is the GOP |
bluedog |
Oct-20-06 10:34 AM |
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a serious reality check to the "Netroots" crowd |
President Jesus |
Oct-20-06 10:44 AM |
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Only if DEMS start ignoring the primary results and go for GOP votes. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-20-06 12:07 PM |
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The "Netroots" crowd needs a reality enema. |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 02:24 PM |
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You're saying we should have given up on stopping the war |
Ken Burch |
Oct-21-06 04:45 PM |
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How does the current outcome... |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 07:24 PM |
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There was no way to predict this outcome. |
Ken Burch |
Oct-21-06 07:31 PM |
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Yes there was. |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 08:05 PM |
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None of you KNEW he'd lose. |
Zhade |
Oct-22-06 07:10 PM |
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The good part is we will still have the same old Lieberman... but |
JCMach1 |
Oct-20-06 10:55 AM |
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not sure about that |
bluedog |
Oct-20-06 11:01 AM |
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He may remain a nominal Democrat |
pscot |
Oct-20-06 11:34 AM |
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The poll is inaccurate. He doesn't have a chance. |
Xenotime |
Oct-20-06 11:54 AM |
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Not a single poll in months has come out showing Lamont ahead. |
Placebo |
Oct-20-06 11:56 AM |
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Maybe, but they were getting close. What triggered 17 points surge? |
The Count |
Oct-20-06 12:00 PM |
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I don't see how it was ever close. |
TheWraith |
Oct-20-06 02:09 PM |
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If the vote was to take place on DU, then he wouldn't have a chance |
brentspeak |
Oct-20-06 03:53 PM |
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What's sad is this.. |
SoCalDem |
Oct-20-06 12:25 PM |
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they have a law stating exactly your wishes. they chose not to follow it |
anotherdrew |
Oct-20-06 05:41 PM |
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good points n/t |
Blue_Tires |
Oct-20-06 10:01 PM |
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This is a set up for a rigged election!!! Watch and see. |
goforit |
Oct-20-06 12:29 PM |
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Lieberman |
Robbins |
Oct-20-06 12:43 PM |
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He's made a campaign pledge to caucus with Dems. |
TheWraith |
Oct-20-06 02:11 PM |
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Since when do you believe anything he says? |
mac56 |
Oct-20-06 04:11 PM |
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It's a matter of legal precedent. |
TheWraith |
Oct-20-06 04:51 PM |
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Since when has Joementum kept his word? |
martymar64 |
Oct-21-06 07:32 AM |
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Start with Big Pharm, Insurance Companies, and Defense industries. |
98geoduck |
Oct-21-06 03:57 PM |
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Of course he'll be loyal to Big Biz! |
martymar64 |
Oct-21-06 04:44 PM |
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Yeah on those Diebold lever machines! |
rinsd |
Oct-20-06 12:44 PM |
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THANK YOU. |
Placebo |
Oct-20-06 01:16 PM |
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I hold out hope but geez sometimes the foil is wrapped too tight |
rinsd |
Oct-20-06 01:40 PM |
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Get a Clue!! |
discerning christian |
Oct-20-06 06:11 PM |
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Most definitely! These polls are fixed. |
fooj |
Oct-20-06 01:10 PM |
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Provide a poll that doesn't show a Lieberman lead. |
TheVirginian |
Oct-20-06 02:44 PM |
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Zogby shows 49-43%... |
fooj |
Oct-20-06 02:49 PM |
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Two things: |
TheVirginian |
Oct-20-06 03:09 PM |
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You're my hero Virginian, way to present facts, not emotion! n/t |
ScreamingWhisper |
Oct-20-06 04:00 PM |
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Joe lost the primary. |
fooj |
Oct-20-06 08:19 PM |
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Which proves what, exactly? n/t |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 01:51 PM |
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Only ONE poll showed Lieberman losing the Dem. primary. |
Alexander |
Oct-20-06 04:04 PM |
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Oct-20-06 04:18 PM |
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No, but most polls consistently show a lead of at least 8-10 points |
TheVirginian |
Oct-20-06 04:30 PM |
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It took me 5 minutes to find 6 polls that show it within MOE. |
Alexander |
Oct-20-06 04:48 PM |
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Look at the most recent polls. |
TheVirginian |
Oct-20-06 04:55 PM |
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This poll still doesn't factor in the stream of bad news for Joe. |
Alexander |
Oct-20-06 05:10 PM |
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1/3 of respondents watched the first debate. |
rinsd |
Oct-20-06 05:52 PM |
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What about Debate #2? You still haven't addressed that. |
Alexander |
Oct-20-06 06:11 PM |
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Maybe you are right. |
greccogirl |
Oct-21-06 12:42 AM |
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Why do some of you keep saying that? HE'S RUN ON MORE THAN THE WAR. |
Zhade |
Oct-22-06 07:15 PM |
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I don't feel it is - |
greccogirl |
Oct-22-06 10:37 PM |
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Okay, cool, thanks for clarifying. |
Zhade |
Oct-23-06 04:27 PM |
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Here's some info... |
fooj |
Oct-20-06 08:47 PM |
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You're right, there IS bias - the first line of the article reveals it. |
Alexander |
Oct-20-06 10:09 PM |
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I hope you're happy. The traitor gets to stay. |
martymar64 |
Oct-21-06 07:41 AM |
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I am sure he will provide the proof on election day . . . |
toopers |
Oct-20-06 03:13 PM |
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what if this is the first of the gop |
ldf |
Oct-20-06 09:34 PM |
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so do you all of the polls are fraudulent |
onenote |
Oct-23-06 10:08 AM |
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That's idiotic. |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 01:48 PM |
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881 voters polled ...IS NO POLL!!! This is pathetic this day and age!!! |
goforit |
Oct-20-06 12:38 PM |
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You don't know anything about polling. |
TheVirginian |
Oct-20-06 02:43 PM |
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If Lieberman wins, he could be our new Zell Miller. |
wisteria |
Oct-20-06 12:41 PM |
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He already is |
greccogirl |
Oct-21-06 12:44 AM |
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check out the inner polls |
bluedog |
Oct-20-06 12:51 PM |
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Well, Liebermworm got himself reelected in the most sleazy way possible |
BlueStater |
Oct-20-06 01:34 PM |
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Don't understand why he's sleazy, simply because he chose |
ScreamingWhisper |
Oct-20-06 03:53 PM |
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He used the Dem. party's money for his Independent run. |
Alexander |
Oct-20-06 04:00 PM |
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"Holds himself to the fire"? |
mac56 |
Oct-20-06 04:12 PM |
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Maybe you didn't see him defend Bush on the Wall Strreet Journal |
against all enemies |
Oct-20-06 04:26 PM |
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Oct-22-06 10:10 AM |
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why is it sleazy |
darboy |
Oct-20-06 07:58 PM |
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Advocating for lieberman is against DU rules. |
Zhade |
Oct-20-06 09:36 PM |
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Puleeze.....how can anyone defend that traitorous douchebag? |
whutgives |
Oct-20-06 10:23 PM |
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Because of his choices he is a Republican. |
martymar64 |
Oct-21-06 07:52 AM |
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First - it's against the rules to support the LOSER of the DEMOCRATIC |
TankLV |
Oct-21-06 04:26 PM |
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Remember, only ONE poll showed Lamont winning Dem. primary. |
Alexander |
Oct-20-06 03:46 PM |
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Really? |
cmkramer |
Oct-21-06 11:17 AM |
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Oct-20-06 04:54 PM |
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And what the fuck is that supposed to mean? n/t |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 07:28 PM |
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I somehow doubt we'll get an explanation. |
Lurking Dem |
Oct-22-06 10:12 AM |
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Not good. |
Jack Rabbit |
Oct-20-06 05:47 PM |
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Too much poison... |
Inuca |
Oct-20-06 05:56 PM |
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Lieberman supports torture and the repeal of habeas corpus |
IndianaGreen |
Oct-20-06 06:49 PM |
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I'll always consider Lieberman a traitor, I can't stand him. n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-20-06 06:52 PM |
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Terri Schaivo. Contraception for raped women. Censorship. The list goes on |
Alexander |
Oct-20-06 07:16 PM |
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Lamont is the Democrat in the race |
bluedog |
Oct-20-06 08:11 PM |
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Yes, voters have to be reminded that Lamont is the Democratic candidate |
savemefromdumbya |
Oct-21-06 10:51 PM |
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Lamont will be listed as a Democrat on the ballot: |
Freddie Stubbs |
Oct-23-06 10:32 AM |
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I'm conflicted over this race. While Lamont won the primary, |
Polesitter |
Oct-20-06 09:23 PM |
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You Got anymore "good" news Robcon? |
MODemocrat |
Oct-20-06 10:01 PM |
#102 |
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Another Repig endorsement. |
robcon |
Oct-21-06 06:36 AM |
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Has Lamont bothered to mention . . . |
Chomskyite |
Oct-21-06 04:32 AM |
#114 |
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No, and it happens to be untrue anyway |
cmkramer |
Oct-21-06 05:27 PM |
#135 |
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No. |
yibbehobba |
Oct-21-06 07:27 PM |
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who is this 36% of Democrats who back Lieberman? |
yurbud |
Oct-21-06 12:22 PM |
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Probably about 2/3 of those who voted for him in the primary |
robcon |
Oct-21-06 07:52 PM |
#141 |
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But far more among conservatives, aka the uninformed. |
Zhade |
Oct-22-06 07:16 PM |
#172 |
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Past time to redirect our efforts elsewhere. nt |
Clarkie1 |
Oct-21-06 08:51 PM |
#145 |
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damn it |
MATTMAN |
Oct-21-06 08:56 PM |
#146 |
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Ah ... so the United States is going for Joementum |
plasticsundance |
Oct-21-06 11:14 PM |
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great article in The Nation by Bruce Shapiro regarding ... |
98geoduck |
Oct-22-06 12:58 AM |
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Joe's money comes from Repubs and Whitehouse allies |
upi402 |
Oct-22-06 02:36 AM |
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Look in my sigline for who else is funding Jihad Joe. |
Zhade |
Oct-22-06 07:20 PM |
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The lead may be exagerrated |
fujiyama |
Oct-22-06 02:28 AM |
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LIE: ""Candidate debates this week did not help the two principal chall.." |
kohodog |
Oct-22-06 09:07 AM |
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"Both Lamont and Schlesinger questioned the validity of the poll results." |
98geoduck |
Oct-22-06 04:32 PM |
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Another poll in CT |
robcon |
Oct-23-06 09:58 AM |
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I think everyone can accept 17 points as high |
TheVirginian |
Oct-23-06 11:13 AM |
#179 |
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Lamont IS going to WIN and HERE is WHY.... |
98geoduck |
Oct-23-06 01:56 PM |
#180 |