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Reply #33: I am in favor of increased immigration, even "amnesty." [View All]

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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:17 PM
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33. I am in favor of increased immigration, even "amnesty."
I think the former is good for the economy. The latter is a necessary precursor to actually passing good immigration legislation and enforcing it. I don't know of any country that has no controls over who moves there and who works there. I suppose that would be an interesting experiment, if we decide to get rid of the notion of the nation-state.

I realize that in the real world, there will always be some selective enforcement of laws. I know enough police officers to know that they don't spend their whole day handing our citations to jaywalkers and litters. In any crackdown on immigrants or their employers there will always be questions of why this group of immigrants and why that employer not the other?

Sometimes you have to enforce a stupid law in order to generate the will to change it. Imagine if thousands of jaywalkers were suddenly arrested. Think that might generate some movement towards modifying the stupid jaywalking laws? I realize that for many of us leaving the immigrants in legal limbo, but here and working, is good for humanitarian reasons. Many employers like the immigrants to be in legal limbo, so there is less pressure to raise wages or improve working conditions.

It seems like the humanitarians and the shady employers have arrived at an unspoken compromise to leave things the way they are. Each side would like to see changes that would benefit them, but are afraid to rock the boat for fear of losing what they have.

What would happen if there was a massive crackdown on illegal immigrants and their employers, resulting in much economic damage and many humanitarian catastrophes? Could we possibly then change immigration laws and actually enforce the resulting legislation like a rational country would do?
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