Xithras
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Wed Sep-27-06 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #25 |
| 40. Lot of truth there. Union losses are also a factor |
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The Democratic party in this state has a numeric advantage which has held us in power for so long that many in the leadership seem to have forgotten how to campaign. The Thug challengers in past elections, after all, were really more there for show than anything.
Part of the problem, IMO, is that California has lost much of its manufacturing base to offshoring and relocation to other lower cost states. Since the manufacturing base was once the focus of union activity, they provided an effective conduit to push the Democratic message to working blue collar workers. With the loss of manufacturing, we also lost those unions. Without those unions, we no longer have shop stewards reminding co-workers to vote, and union reps sending out voter guides to workers. The most powerful unions in the state today are ALL government employee unions, and while they're powerful they aren't numerically large enough to drive elections the way the old manufacturing unions did.
We're still the numeric majority, but I know for a fact that many Democrats simply don't vote. It's not that they're apathetic, it's just that they tend to get so wrapped up in their own lives that politics becomes a secondary issue. I've run into genuine flaming liberals who, come election day, completely forget that they need to go vote. The worker diaspora that followed the loss of manufacturing has made people like that almost unreachable.
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| -Poll: Schwarzenegger leads Angelides by 17 points (AP) |
Newsjock |
Sep-26-06 09:33 PM |
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Yeah, Ah-nold |
Mz Pip |
Sep-26-06 09:37 PM |
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It's Infuriating |
Paranoid Pessimist |
Sep-28-06 12:36 PM |
#46 |
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Yeah....And We Don't Even Have diebold On OUR Side |
OrangeCountyDemocrat |
Sep-26-06 09:43 PM |
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I just don't understand it! |
goclark |
Sep-26-06 09:47 PM |
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At this point these are simply name recognition polls |
Moochy |
Sep-26-06 09:55 PM |
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Actually, I know a lot of Republicans on my street who hate |
Cleita |
Sep-28-06 12:43 PM |
#48 |
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Kansas I can understand. |
tabasco |
Sep-26-06 09:50 PM |
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Angelides is the weakest candidate ever |
Bluestar |
Sep-26-06 09:54 PM |
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Well, my state has a republican governor, a one-termer. |
tabasco |
Sep-26-06 10:04 PM |
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why does that matter, there are still weeks before the election |
JI7 |
Sep-26-06 11:00 PM |
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I know. It's painful to admit that there are that many neo-Nazis |
arewenotdemo |
Sep-27-06 02:46 PM |
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Angelides is invisible. There are no Angelides |
LibDemAlways |
Sep-26-06 10:20 PM |
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Good call, I agree |
RevolutionStartsNow |
Sep-27-06 02:50 PM |
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It's over |
bluestateguy |
Sep-26-06 10:53 PM |
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Fuck my fellow CA dems who said they won't vote for Angelides! |
Shakespeare |
Sep-26-06 11:13 PM |
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We're not the ones doing this. |
Xithras |
Sep-27-06 09:44 PM |
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Angelides is toast. It was a tough fight from the start for anybody. |
w4rma |
Sep-26-06 11:14 PM |
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"this is his last term as governor" |
rinsd |
Sep-27-06 05:41 PM |
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No it wasn't. Arnold was at 30% approval this time last year. |
leesa |
Sep-27-06 09:28 PM |
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The minute Angelides won the primary I was worried |
Downtown Hound |
Sep-27-06 12:48 AM |
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He is just soooooo wrong on so many issues |
Sam Odom |
Sep-27-06 02:03 AM |
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It wouldn't have mattered who won. Californians want their make believe |
w4rma |
Sep-27-06 02:07 AM |
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I liked Westley much better. |
Megahurtz |
Sep-27-06 02:21 PM |
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Angelides ran a nasty smear campaign against him. |
Xithras |
Sep-27-06 09:53 PM |
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you all should have seen the love-fest between ahnuld |
xchrom |
Sep-27-06 03:50 AM |
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Dem leadership in CA is WORTHLESS. |
BullGooseLoony |
Sep-27-06 03:51 AM |
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I hate to say it, but I think Ahhnold will be with us for 4 more years |
SoCalDem |
Sep-27-06 05:38 AM |
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Non-partisan my ass. |
bemildred |
Sep-27-06 09:30 AM |
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What does the Field poll say? I'd go with their reading on this. |
confludemocrat |
Sep-27-06 09:52 AM |
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he just vetoed universal health care |
samsingh |
Sep-27-06 10:53 AM |
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What gets CLUELESS,charisma-CHALLENGED dweebs to RUN??? |
UTUSN |
Sep-27-06 12:29 PM |
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It's not just Cali, sadly |
KamaAina |
Sep-27-06 04:11 PM |
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You've been SO cool SO long!!!!!!1 Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!1 n/t |
UTUSN |
Sep-27-06 09:05 PM |
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the good ones lose in the primaries? |
Retrograde |
Sep-28-06 12:01 PM |
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do we have a state party organization in that state anymore? |
anotherdrew |
Sep-27-06 02:03 PM |
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Decades of one-party rule has made the leadership complacent |
slackmaster |
Sep-27-06 02:30 PM |
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Lot of truth there. Union losses are also a factor |
Xithras |
Sep-27-06 10:05 PM |
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SJ Merc News headline yesterday said this: |
RevolutionStartsNow |
Sep-27-06 02:38 PM |
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Sorry, but it's time to cue Don Meredith |
Jack Rabbit |
Sep-27-06 02:53 PM |
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Frankly I'm surprised |
Raine |
Sep-27-06 03:50 PM |
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How stupid are Californians to be conned by Arnie the environmentalist |
leesa |
Sep-27-06 09:27 PM |
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More Republican lies about what they stand for when it's |
Cleita |
Sep-28-06 12:45 PM |
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I hope that this is a joke. Please let it be a joke. |
Peake |
Sep-27-06 09:27 PM |
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yes |
Clovis Sangrail |
Sep-27-06 10:00 PM |
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I am shocked by this!! |
themartyred |
Sep-27-06 11:20 PM |
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Why oh why... |
Nabeshin |
Sep-27-06 11:37 PM |
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The press blows Arnold 24/7 |
Joe Bacon |
Sep-28-06 07:56 AM |
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Arnold is NOT the typical republican. He does work hard, and actualy cares |
oc2002 |
Sep-28-06 09:25 AM |
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He vetoed the health care bill because he is bought and |
Cleita |
Sep-28-06 12:41 PM |
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And what's a little Naziism and sexual harassment among friends, anyhow? |
Overseas |
Sep-28-06 05:01 PM |
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I thought Angelides had passed away, is he still alive? |
olddad56 |
Sep-28-06 05:04 PM |
#51 |