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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:05 PM
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40. Lot of truth there. Union losses are also a factor
The Democratic party in this state has a numeric advantage which has held us in power for so long that many in the leadership seem to have forgotten how to campaign. The Thug challengers in past elections, after all, were really more there for show than anything.

Part of the problem, IMO, is that California has lost much of its manufacturing base to offshoring and relocation to other lower cost states. Since the manufacturing base was once the focus of union activity, they provided an effective conduit to push the Democratic message to working blue collar workers. With the loss of manufacturing, we also lost those unions. Without those unions, we no longer have shop stewards reminding co-workers to vote, and union reps sending out voter guides to workers. The most powerful unions in the state today are ALL government employee unions, and while they're powerful they aren't numerically large enough to drive elections the way the old manufacturing unions did.

We're still the numeric majority, but I know for a fact that many Democrats simply don't vote. It's not that they're apathetic, it's just that they tend to get so wrapped up in their own lives that politics becomes a secondary issue. I've run into genuine flaming liberals who, come election day, completely forget that they need to go vote. The worker diaspora that followed the loss of manufacturing has made people like that almost unreachable.
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  -Poll: Schwarzenegger leads Angelides by 17 points (AP) Newsjock  Sep-26-06 09:33 PM   #0 
  - Yeah, Ah-nold  Mz Pip   Sep-26-06 09:37 PM   #1 
  - It's Infuriating  Paranoid Pessimist   Sep-28-06 12:36 PM   #46 
  - Yeah....And We Don't Even Have diebold On OUR Side  OrangeCountyDemocrat   Sep-26-06 09:43 PM   #2 
  - I just don't understand it!  goclark   Sep-26-06 09:47 PM   #3 
  - At this point these are simply name recognition polls  Moochy   Sep-26-06 09:55 PM   #6 
  - Actually, I know a lot of Republicans on my street who hate  Cleita   Sep-28-06 12:43 PM   #48 
  - Kansas I can understand.  tabasco   Sep-26-06 09:50 PM   #4 
  - Angelides is the weakest candidate ever  Bluestar   Sep-26-06 09:54 PM   #5 
  - Well, my state has a republican governor, a one-termer.  tabasco   Sep-26-06 10:04 PM   #7 
  - why does that matter, there are still weeks before the election  JI7   Sep-26-06 11:00 PM   #10 
  - I know. It's painful to admit that there are that many neo-Nazis  arewenotdemo   Sep-27-06 02:46 PM   #27 
  - Angelides is invisible. There are no Angelides  LibDemAlways   Sep-26-06 10:20 PM   #8 
  - Good call, I agree  RevolutionStartsNow   Sep-27-06 02:50 PM   #28 
  - It's over  bluestateguy   Sep-26-06 10:53 PM   #9 
  - Fuck my fellow CA dems who said they won't vote for Angelides!  Shakespeare   Sep-26-06 11:13 PM   #11 
  - We're not the ones doing this.  Xithras   Sep-27-06 09:44 PM   #37 
  - Angelides is toast. It was a tough fight from the start for anybody.  w4rma   Sep-26-06 11:14 PM   #12 
  - "this is his last term as governor"  rinsd   Sep-27-06 05:41 PM   #32 
  - No it wasn't. Arnold was at 30% approval this time last year.  leesa   Sep-27-06 09:28 PM   #36 
  - The minute Angelides won the primary I was worried  Downtown Hound   Sep-27-06 12:48 AM   #13 
  - He is just soooooo wrong on so many issues  Sam Odom   Sep-27-06 02:03 AM   #14 
  - It wouldn't have mattered who won. Californians want their make believe  w4rma   Sep-27-06 02:07 AM   #15 
  - I liked Westley much better.  Megahurtz   Sep-27-06 02:21 PM   #24 
     - Angelides ran a nasty smear campaign against him.  Xithras   Sep-27-06 09:53 PM   #38 
  - you all should have seen the love-fest between ahnuld  xchrom   Sep-27-06 03:50 AM   #16 
  - Dem leadership in CA is WORTHLESS.  BullGooseLoony   Sep-27-06 03:51 AM   #17 
  - I hate to say it, but I think Ahhnold will be with us for 4 more years  SoCalDem   Sep-27-06 05:38 AM   #18 
  - Non-partisan my ass.  bemildred   Sep-27-06 09:30 AM   #19 
  - What does the Field poll say? I'd go with their reading on this.  confludemocrat   Sep-27-06 09:52 AM   #20 
  - he just vetoed universal health care  samsingh   Sep-27-06 10:53 AM   #21 
  - What gets CLUELESS,charisma-CHALLENGED dweebs to RUN???  UTUSN   Sep-27-06 12:29 PM   #22 
  - It's not just Cali, sadly  KamaAina   Sep-27-06 04:11 PM   #31 
  - You've been SO cool SO long!!!!!!1 Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!1 n/t  UTUSN   Sep-27-06 09:05 PM   #33 
  - the good ones lose in the primaries?  Retrograde   Sep-28-06 12:01 PM   #45 
  - do we have a state party organization in that state anymore?  anotherdrew   Sep-27-06 02:03 PM   #23 
  - Decades of one-party rule has made the leadership complacent  slackmaster   Sep-27-06 02:30 PM   #25 
     - Lot of truth there. Union losses are also a factor  Xithras   Sep-27-06 10:05 PM   #40 
  - SJ Merc News headline yesterday said this:  RevolutionStartsNow   Sep-27-06 02:38 PM   #26 
  - Sorry, but it's time to cue Don Meredith  Jack Rabbit   Sep-27-06 02:53 PM   #29 
  - Frankly I'm surprised  Raine   Sep-27-06 03:50 PM   #30 
  - How stupid are Californians to be conned by Arnie the environmentalist  leesa   Sep-27-06 09:27 PM   #34 
  - More Republican lies about what they stand for when it's  Cleita   Sep-28-06 12:45 PM   #49 
  - I hope that this is a joke. Please let it be a joke.  Peake   Sep-27-06 09:27 PM   #35 
  - yes  Clovis Sangrail   Sep-27-06 10:00 PM   #39 
  - I am shocked by this!!  themartyred   Sep-27-06 11:20 PM   #41 
  - Why oh why...  Nabeshin   Sep-27-06 11:37 PM   #42 
  - The press blows Arnold 24/7  Joe Bacon   Sep-28-06 07:56 AM   #43 
  - Arnold is NOT the typical republican. He does work hard, and actualy cares  oc2002   Sep-28-06 09:25 AM   #44 
  - He vetoed the health care bill because he is bought and  Cleita   Sep-28-06 12:41 PM   #47 
  - And what's a little Naziism and sexual harassment among friends, anyhow?  Overseas   Sep-28-06 05:01 PM   #50 
  - I thought Angelides had passed away, is he still alive?  olddad56   Sep-28-06 05:04 PM   #51 
 

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