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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #60
195. Billions of dollars on hi-tech jet development but we're still using A-10s
We've spent hundreds of billions of dollars on hi-tech jet
development but we're still using good old A-10 Warthogs
to blow up those Canadian terraists.

Air superiority seems to mostly be a way to funnel billions
of dollars to a few select defense contractors.

Tesha
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  -Iran Adds New Fighter to Air Force sabra  Sep-06-06 01:42 PM   #0 
  - Actually an upgraded F-5  seriousstan   Sep-06-06 01:51 PM   #1 
  - Does that means ......  Roy   Sep-06-06 02:12 PM   #4 
     - No, not sure why you think that anyway.  Sterling   Sep-06-06 02:31 PM   #7 
        - My thinking was... with the IDF being surprised...  Roy   Sep-06-06 05:30 PM   #39 
        - Who's going to be left to shoot them down?  hogwyld   Sep-06-06 10:15 PM   #106 
           - only if they can "see 'em"  xyzpdq_us   Sep-06-06 10:37 PM   #108 
              - Yeah, but with no bases nearby, their capability is limited  hogwyld   Sep-06-06 11:40 PM   #119 
              - What about the Aegis systems installed on most Navy ships?  LastDemocratInSC   Sep-07-06 12:07 AM   #125 
                 - Aegis systems are only on smaller ships  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 02:01 AM   #137 
                    - Actually, it is missile defense  krispos42   Sep-07-06 05:52 AM   #151 
                       - OK, I'll take your word on that, but, what about the Sunburn  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 06:45 AM   #160 
                          - Sunburn  Pavulon   Sep-07-06 10:24 AM   #215 
                          - No air defense shield is 100%  krispos42   Sep-07-06 01:45 PM   #241 
                             - Soviet like  Pavulon   Sep-07-06 01:55 PM   #245 
                                - The worst thing they could do is fight Soviet-style  krispos42   Sep-07-06 02:53 PM   #247 
  - Here's a pic:  Cooley Hurd   Sep-06-06 01:52 PM   #2 
  - This plane looks like something from the 60's  Sterling   Sep-06-06 02:27 PM   #6 
  - Well I'll be.  sofa king   Sep-06-06 04:22 PM   #33 
     - A typical Sofa King post: informative and insightful. Thanks. n/t  Psephos   Sep-07-06 10:23 PM   #258 
  - That's odd, they have a missile by the same name  MADem   Sep-06-06 01:55 PM   #3 
  - This is too funny.  Sterling   Sep-06-06 02:23 PM   #5 
  - The best thing the Iranians...  orwell   Sep-06-06 02:40 PM   #8 
  - bravo, bravo....  okieinpain   Sep-06-06 05:48 PM   #47 
  - We're becoming a third world country with a first world military  MGD   Sep-06-06 08:17 PM   #84 
  - In other words...........  nolabels   Sep-07-06 08:03 AM   #190 
  - Yeah but 'kicking their asses' or 'bomb the shit outta them'  Rex   Sep-07-06 02:15 AM   #142 
  - Saddam pulled the same shit and his country was invaded.  The Stranger   Sep-06-06 02:41 PM   #9 
  - And other observers are not quite so sanguine  JohnyCanuck   Sep-06-06 02:51 PM   #10 
  - and in other words, exactly what osama bin laden wants. this is  okieinpain   Sep-06-06 05:51 PM   #48 
  - Very interesting essay.  ronnie624   Sep-07-06 01:03 AM   #127 
  - Oh, I know a thing or two about military affairs.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 02:55 PM   #11 
  - Why?  NeedleCast   Sep-06-06 03:09 PM   #14 
  - Iraq?  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 03:13 PM   #16 
  - I thought  NeedleCast   Sep-06-06 03:19 PM   #18 
     - And you suppose...  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 03:22 PM   #19 
     - So they would do what?  NeedleCast   Sep-06-06 03:28 PM   #24 
        - Launch missles at Israel.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 03:32 PM   #26 
        - we've got control of the skies . . we certainly don't . control . that war  ConcernedCanuk   Sep-06-06 05:37 PM   #43 
        - The thing is...  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 05:44 PM   #45 
           - Apparently, the chimp in charge didn't care . . . But ya gotta think a bit  ConcernedCanuk   Sep-06-06 07:08 PM   #68 
              - Interesting.....  Megahurtz   Sep-07-06 01:31 PM   #238 
        - A different kind of war perhaps?  hack89   Sep-06-06 06:08 PM   #50 
        - Yup.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 06:09 PM   #51 
        - I didn't say cakewalk..  hack89   Sep-06-06 06:17 PM   #52 
           - Oh, it's a "new kind of war."  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 06:23 PM   #53 
              - I don't agree with Rumsfield ...  hack89   Sep-06-06 06:30 PM   #56 
              - Outside of snarkiness...  hoboken123   Sep-06-06 09:08 PM   #101 
                 - My main point's in the OP.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-07-06 05:18 PM   #256 
        - You can see across the Straits. Iran's ASMs are well-hidden.  leveymg   Sep-07-06 05:47 AM   #150 
        - Waste of Missile, launch them at the oil port of Saudi Arabia  happyslug   Sep-06-06 10:30 PM   #107 
        - about that...  IronLionZion   Sep-06-06 03:45 PM   #29 
        - Modern air power means that it is impossible to ..  hack89   Sep-06-06 06:27 PM   #55 
           - It was our Navy that actually stopped the invasion  Oggy   Sep-07-06 06:53 AM   #162 
              - Thats true  HannibalBarca   Sep-07-06 09:27 AM   #209 
              - True to a certain extent ..  hack89   Sep-07-06 05:13 PM   #255 
              - Untrue.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-07-06 05:21 PM   #257 
        - Didn't Rommel lose?  Jed Dilligan   Sep-07-06 12:30 PM   #232 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 12:33 PM   #233 
              - Yes  Jed Dilligan   Sep-07-06 12:58 PM   #234 
     - First response from Iran would be to bomb Israel  Radioactive   Sep-06-06 07:11 PM   #70 
  - The scenario that would doom a US adventure in Iran  martymar64   Sep-07-06 09:11 AM   #207 
  - So you think these 'new' toys Iran has are actually a threat?  Sterling   Sep-06-06 05:17 PM   #37 
  - Nope.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 05:46 PM   #46 
     - "Frankly, I think, given guided missle technology,"  India3   Sep-06-06 06:41 PM   #59 
        - Mmhmm.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 06:53 PM   #60 
        - How can I state this clearly?  India3   Sep-06-06 07:07 PM   #67 
        - ...  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 07:13 PM   #71 
           - Jesus man, just stop.  Sterling   Sep-07-06 01:43 AM   #129 
              - Ha!  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-07-06 04:44 PM   #253 
        - Billions of dollars on hi-tech jet development but we're still using A-10s  Tesha   Sep-07-06 08:26 AM   #195 
           - Because A 10's are actually still useful  Sterling   Sep-12-06 02:36 PM   #261 
              - Uhh, right... hate to pop your bubble...  hogwyld   Sep-12-06 03:39 PM   #262 
        - Yes wrong, and wrong for the wrong reasons as well.  Sterling   Sep-07-06 01:40 AM   #128 
           - If a Dem were in office  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 02:04 AM   #139 
              - Really, do you actually think that is true?  Sterling   Sep-07-06 02:23 AM   #143 
                 - Well for one thing  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 06:26 AM   #154 
  - We're already on the verge of one military disaster  MGD   Sep-06-06 08:22 PM   #86 
     - Maybe in the long run, maybe this is good for world peace.  Tesha   Sep-07-06 08:30 AM   #197 
  - perhaps this is just iranian  DiktatrW   Sep-06-06 02:56 PM   #12 
  - Don't need carriers in the straight  NeedleCast   Sep-06-06 03:12 PM   #15 
     - How do you plan on getting fuel to those bases?  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 03:14 PM   #17 
     - Make a longer trip  NeedleCast   Sep-06-06 03:23 PM   #20 
     - A longer trip where?  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 03:26 PM   #23 
     - "Because guerillas will have the ground.' Really?  Sterling   Sep-06-06 05:25 PM   #38 
        - Sterling, it's because I don't want the U.S. to lose...  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 05:43 PM   #44 
        - Let them control the ground in Iran.  hack89   Sep-06-06 06:34 PM   #57 
        - Mhmm.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 06:40 PM   #58 
        - Show them the real cost of their nuclear ambitions  hack89   Sep-06-06 06:55 PM   #61 
           - Ah, yeah.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 06:57 PM   #63 
           - Why would they commit suicide?  hack89   Sep-06-06 07:04 PM   #65 
              - It doesn't make a lot of fucking sense...  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 07:07 PM   #66 
                 - It would mean the end of Iran.  hack89   Sep-06-06 07:09 PM   #69 
                    - Ah, MAD.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 07:14 PM   #72 
                    - what if they just  DiktatrW   Sep-06-06 11:48 PM   #121 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 01:52 AM   #131 
           - what if their nuclear ambitions  DiktatrW   Sep-06-06 11:42 PM   #120 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 02:31 AM   #144 
                 - So tell me  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 06:30 AM   #155 
                 - so,  DiktatrW   Sep-07-06 06:38 AM   #158 
                    - Bingo!  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 08:01 AM   #189 
        - then what?  DiktatrW   Sep-06-06 11:37 PM   #117 
        - I too was against the war in Iraq.  Sterling   Sep-07-06 02:10 AM   #141 
        - tell it to the viet cong  DiktatrW   Sep-06-06 11:35 PM   #115 
     - Why? Iraq is full of gas that we would use.  OregonDem   Sep-06-06 07:16 PM   #74 
     - You're right!  India3   Sep-06-06 03:23 PM   #21 
        - Oh, just common sense.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 03:26 PM   #22 
        - Quite a bit  NeedleCast   Sep-06-06 03:30 PM   #25 
        - While I respect your knowledge of this subject matter ....  Trajan   Sep-06-06 04:54 PM   #36 
        - "They can move that army across the border, into Iraq "  Sterling   Sep-06-06 05:30 PM   #40 
        - Your self imposed bubble ...  Trajan   Sep-06-06 05:36 PM   #42 
        - Really?  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 05:58 PM   #49 
        - Yeah...  India3   Sep-06-06 06:55 PM   #62 
           - China.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 06:58 PM   #64 
           - China, although spending huge amounts of cash on its military...  India3   Sep-06-06 07:15 PM   #73 
              - Generally, yes.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 07:18 PM   #76 
              - Compared to  India3   Sep-06-06 07:29 PM   #77 
                 - Uh huh.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 07:32 PM   #78 
                 - Oh I forgot...  India3   Sep-06-06 07:38 PM   #79 
                    - Hmm.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 07:39 PM   #80 
                       - Because you are commenting on a subject...  India3   Sep-06-06 08:10 PM   #82 
                          - Ah ha ha.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 08:14 PM   #83 
                          - Yep! Just pretend you didn't post all that misinformation above.  India3   Sep-06-06 08:18 PM   #85 
                          - If I'm dead ass wrong...  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 08:24 PM   #87 
                          - Did I ever say anything like that?  India3   Sep-06-06 08:28 PM   #88 
                          - Shit, kid.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 08:29 PM   #89 
                          - Explain to me in DETAIL...  India3   Sep-06-06 08:32 PM   #90 
                          - LOL  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 08:37 PM   #94 
                          - You call it "apologizing"  India3   Sep-06-06 08:48 PM   #97 
                          - Apologizing is the technically correct term.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-06-06 08:57 PM   #99 
                          - First of all...  India3   Sep-06-06 09:09 PM   #102 
                          - I called it. The Iraq war.  Sterling   Sep-07-06 01:50 AM   #130 
                          - Iran has sheer numbers ....  Trajan   Sep-06-06 11:37 PM   #118 
                          - We killed  Pavulon   Sep-07-06 11:08 AM   #224 
                 - Cub scouts that nuked two cities  daleo   Sep-06-06 11:35 PM   #114 
              - Is this the same "intelligence"  hogwyld   Sep-06-06 10:07 PM   #104 
              - More importantly  Oggy   Sep-07-06 07:19 AM   #174 
                 - And the way this junta has been winning friends  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:29 AM   #179 
              - Bush didn't know about the different sects in Iraq until Jan 2003  krispos42   Sep-07-06 06:18 AM   #153 
           - This is not about breast beating ...  Trajan   Sep-06-06 11:26 PM   #113 
        - China and Russia won't let us go near Iran  bronxiteforever   Sep-06-06 06:26 PM   #54 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 01:54 AM   #132 
        - Many people, my family included, would find your post offensive.  MrsGrumpy   Sep-07-06 05:52 AM   #152 
        - Iranians are not arabs  bronxiteforever   Sep-07-06 06:34 AM   #157 
        - Not only will China and Russia come to Iran's defense  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 06:53 AM   #163 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:00 AM   #164 
              - So you don't think Russia and China wouldn't relish  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:12 AM   #167 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:16 AM   #170 
                    - And look what the Soviet equipment did to us in Vietnam  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:17 AM   #172 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:21 AM   #176 
        - stragety  DiktatrW   Sep-06-06 11:59 PM   #123 
        - ignorant?  DiktatrW   Sep-07-06 12:03 AM   #124 
        - "where exactly did you serve as a successfully strategist"  India3   Sep-07-06 03:13 PM   #248 
        - i don't remember  DiktatrW   Sep-07-06 12:08 AM   #126 
        - Glad to see you are so impressed with 9-11, nice one.  Sterling   Sep-07-06 01:55 AM   #133 
        - I am amazed at the raging erection some seem to have for us  TheWatcher   Sep-07-06 03:55 AM   #147 
           - Some of these people have serious issues of inadequacy  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 08:29 AM   #196 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 08:33 AM   #198 
                 - I was trying not to embarrass the military  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 08:43 AM   #200 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 08:45 AM   #201 
        - Let me add to that.  sofa king   Sep-06-06 05:32 PM   #41 
        - they don't get it  DiktatrW   Sep-06-06 11:55 PM   #122 
        - 3 words: Operation Praying Mantis  MGD   Sep-06-06 08:35 PM   #93 
        - Remember, any conflict with Iran  hogwyld   Sep-06-06 10:13 PM   #105 
           - Pakistan and/or India could side with them aswell...  HMonk   Sep-06-06 10:51 PM   #109 
           - Very good information. Thanks for sharing  hogwyld   Sep-06-06 11:35 PM   #116 
              - No problem.  HMonk   Sep-07-06 03:28 AM   #146 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 01:58 AM   #135 
              - Oh Sterling, I don't see what you're so worried about  TheWatcher   Sep-07-06 04:01 AM   #148 
     - Yes. But we do need tankers in the Straits. Dozens each day.  leveymg   Sep-06-06 04:24 PM   #34 
     - There are ways to doit, but it would be hard  krispos42   Sep-07-06 01:07 PM   #235 
     - I disagree  MGD   Sep-06-06 08:33 PM   #91 
     - how do you rotate squadrons into the theater and back?  DiktatrW   Sep-06-06 08:39 PM   #95 
        - kc-135  Pavulon   Sep-06-06 08:59 PM   #100 
           - i was referring to how do the marine fixed wing  DiktatrW   Sep-06-06 11:10 PM   #112 
  - I Don't think its funny I am a Vet with Family in Iraq  Monkeyman   Sep-06-06 03:34 PM   #27 
  - The difference is, Iran has modern ASMs that can blockade the Straits  leveymg   Sep-06-06 04:20 PM   #32 
     - Iran fought  Pavulon   Sep-06-06 08:39 PM   #96 
     - Not only could Iran close down the Persian Gulf  hogwyld   Sep-06-06 10:03 PM   #103 
     - Not like Iraq at all. Try Afghanistan^100.  sofa king   Sep-07-06 01:55 AM   #134 
  - They don't have to attack us to hurt us  krispos42   Sep-06-06 03:06 PM   #13 
  - "I can't believe i hit him!" (Iranian mortar crew after being lucky  A HERETIC I AM   Sep-06-06 03:36 PM   #28 
     - the fastest jets in the world...  IronLionZion   Sep-06-06 03:47 PM   #30 
        - Yes...while thats true, it is doubtful any American planes operating in  A HERETIC I AM   Sep-06-06 03:58 PM   #31 
           - There probably hasn't been, but the situation is getting weird  krispos42   Sep-07-06 04:49 AM   #149 
              - That what the "Military experts" here at Du don't understand  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 06:40 AM   #159 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 06:47 AM   #161 
                    - That's right  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:09 AM   #166 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:14 AM   #169 
                          - That is why were getting our asses kicked  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:16 AM   #171 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:18 AM   #173 
                             - So we just bomb Iran deeper into the stone age  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:20 AM   #175 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:23 AM   #177 
                                   - And you think Iran would take this lying down?  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:25 AM   #178 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:31 AM   #180 
                                         - I'm sure 'ol Kim Jong Il's nuke emporium has a jihadi special  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:33 AM   #181 
                                            - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:35 AM   #182 
                                               - How would they know who did it?  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:38 AM   #183 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:41 AM   #184 
                                               - Are these the same people that were convinced  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:46 AM   #185 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:57 AM   #188 
                                               - Ah, but in war, the plan is usually the first victim  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 08:07 AM   #191 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 08:13 AM   #193 
                                               - they run that risk now  krispos42   Sep-07-06 01:18 PM   #236 
                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 01:19 PM   #237 
                          - Why would the Iraqi army *WANT* to occupy us?  Tesha   Sep-07-06 08:51 AM   #203 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 08:55 AM   #204 
                                - In other words, *YOU HAVE NO IDEA*.  Tesha   Sep-07-06 09:08 AM   #206 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 09:15 AM   #208 
                                      - You're avoiding the question.  Tesha   Sep-07-06 09:37 AM   #210 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 10:02 AM   #211 
                                            - See, that's the interesting thing about wars  Tesha   Sep-07-06 10:25 AM   #216 
                                               - But you can see the effects of losing  enigma000   Sep-07-06 10:53 AM   #219 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 11:02 AM   #222 
                                                  - yeah, they are  krispos42   Sep-07-06 01:32 PM   #239 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 01:50 PM   #243 
                                                     - who is the first exporting country?  termo   Sep-07-06 03:48 PM   #249 
  - An air assualt on Iran would do nothing  plasticsundance   Sep-06-06 04:35 PM   #35 
  - USAF is not the IDF  Pavulon   Sep-06-06 08:50 PM   #98 
  - We've should have learned from Iraq  plasticsundance   Sep-07-06 09:00 AM   #205 
     - Shock and awe  Pavulon   Sep-07-06 10:59 AM   #220 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 02:00 AM   #136 
  - Israel didn't need a bunker busting bomb for that endeavor.  plasticsundance   Sep-07-06 08:40 AM   #199 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 08:47 AM   #202 
     - Watch the following animation from concerned scientists  plasticsundance   Sep-07-06 10:20 AM   #213 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 10:33 AM   #217 
           - Here's an article from Physics Today that debunks bunker busters  plasticsundance   Sep-07-06 10:46 AM   #218 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 11:01 AM   #221 
                 - I offered evidence not proof  plasticsundance   Sep-07-06 11:48 AM   #225 
  - If they're building these themselves, this changes things  jmowreader   Sep-06-06 07:17 PM   #75 
  - They're F5s  xyzpdq_us   Sep-06-06 10:55 PM   #110 
  - Our military wold absolutely destroy Iran's military, the problem would be  OregonDem   Sep-06-06 08:04 PM   #81 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 02:03 AM   #138 
  - Anyone reminded of this:  RUMMYisFROSTED   Sep-06-06 08:33 PM   #92 
  - An updated F-5, the plane many said the US should have adopted.  happyslug   Sep-06-06 11:09 PM   #111 
  - The F-5 is an ancient piece of crap compared to the newer jets.  Sterling   Sep-07-06 02:05 AM   #140 
  - Good news.  oblivious   Sep-07-06 03:24 AM   #145 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 06:32 AM   #156 
  - Au contraire.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-07-06 11:54 AM   #226 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 12:00 PM   #227 
        - Different functions?  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-07-06 12:05 PM   #228 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 12:19 PM   #230 
              - LOL.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-07-06 01:33 PM   #240 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 01:48 PM   #242 
                    - Oh, but I do.  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-07-06 02:07 PM   #246 
  - Air cover and support or none, you can bet the Iranians will be willing  Nimrod2005   Sep-07-06 07:54 AM   #186 
  - For all of the DU military genius'  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 07:06 AM   #165 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 07:13 AM   #168 
  - These people just love to die!!! nt  Nimrod2005   Sep-07-06 07:54 AM   #187 
  - I haven't heard about much about Shia suicide bombers  enigma000   Sep-07-06 11:04 AM   #223 
  - What about Trajan in 117 AD???  happyslug   Sep-07-06 08:08 AM   #192 
  - I completely spaced on the Mongols  hogwyld   Sep-07-06 08:22 AM   #194 
     - Yes, the the Mongol taking of Baghdad spend the dome to the Crusades.  happyslug   Sep-07-06 03:55 PM   #251 
  - The region Iran's in has been regularly conquered/occupied  Posteritatis   Sep-12-06 04:18 PM   #263 
  - About those silly "old looking" jets...  oNobodyo   Sep-07-06 10:18 AM   #212 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 10:23 AM   #214 
  - LOL  Bornaginhooligan   Sep-07-06 12:07 PM   #229 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-06 12:21 PM   #231 
  - Informative post  Jed Dilligan   Sep-07-06 04:35 PM   #252 
  - More wishful thinking from America haters  Sterling   Sep-12-06 02:30 PM   #260 
  - YouTube has videos from the recent Iran war games  Radioactive   Sep-07-06 01:53 PM   #244 
  - This Place is Crawling  stepnw1f   Sep-07-06 03:49 PM   #250 
  - I think we have something that can defend against it.  Eclectic Man   Sep-07-06 04:45 PM   #254 
  - What I want to know is,  Andrushka   Sep-08-06 03:05 AM   #259 
  - What the hell is going on here ?  saigon68   Sep-12-06 07:56 PM   #264 
 

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