heliarc
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Thu Aug-24-06 05:21 AM
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But I think that your point is mistaken. My health teacher who taught sex ed in school should have used more graphic means to teach how to use a condom, dental dam, and frankly, I would not mind my son or daughter being shown prima facie how to put on a condom. Frankly, I have few hangups about that...
As a good example of her having done something that at the time was still controversial (sadly), she brought in a friend who was HIV positive to speak with the class. We were encouraged to shake hands with that individual on the way out of class. Some very much like you would have shunned "real" contact with the subject of study and your fears would have been unfounded. I'm not so sure I'd mind a responsible presentation of loving sexual practice in a class room. Though I think that issues this private are of a different nature to flag waving which is an inherently public act just as public as burning the flag is.
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| -Teacher reassigned after burning U.S. flags in class |
deadparrot |
Aug-21-06 11:18 PM |
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Sig Heil Ya'll nt |
OwnedByFerrets |
Aug-21-06 11:28 PM |
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Free Speech Lesson #1 |
wellst0nev0ter |
Aug-21-06 11:36 PM |
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So much for the principle of academic freedom. (n/t) |
coalition_unwilling |
Aug-23-06 02:37 PM |
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Lord knows... |
Ready4Change |
Aug-21-06 11:38 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-21-06 11:52 PM |
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Devil's advocate on 1 point.... |
pepperbear |
Aug-21-06 11:55 PM |
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Agreed |
Ohio Joe |
Aug-22-06 07:43 AM |
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Was it even necessary to burn the flag? |
LiberalFighter |
Aug-22-06 09:26 AM |
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Wow, somebody actually burned a flag! |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-21-06 11:59 PM |
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What's even more incredible, he did it in Kentucky. |
beam me up scottie |
Aug-22-06 12:09 AM |
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Maybe he should have burned a bible, too. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-22-06 07:28 AM |
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Are you kidding? This idiot teacher would have been fired in ANY state. |
brentspeak |
Aug-22-06 09:32 AM |
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What if he burned an unrelated object? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-25-06 10:25 AM |
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burning a flag or a paper bag in a class is pretty stupid & a risk to kids |
wordpix2 |
Aug-25-06 10:31 AM |
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Those "red state talibornagains" will probably celebrate the teacher's |
coalition_unwilling |
Aug-23-06 02:41 PM |
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Being a teacher myself in the Jefferson Co, Public Schools, I am |
MasonJar |
Aug-23-06 04:27 PM |
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With rights come responsibilities. |
last1standing |
Aug-22-06 02:05 AM |
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Agreed |
Sherman A1 |
Aug-22-06 03:16 AM |
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Really? |
heliarc |
Aug-22-06 04:20 AM |
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Well... |
heliarc |
Aug-22-06 04:19 AM |
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Good link.... |
CanSocDem |
Aug-22-06 08:21 AM |
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Did Jane Elliot burn a flag in class? |
last1standing |
Aug-22-06 03:43 PM |
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No she didn't, but... |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 10:27 AM |
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I agree that unorthodox teaching methods can be very effective. |
last1standing |
Aug-23-06 01:27 PM |
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You don't get it: the uproar is the lesson. Bravo to this teacher |
coalition_unwilling |
Aug-23-06 02:43 PM |
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I'm sure one of us doesn't get it. |
last1standing |
Aug-23-06 03:56 PM |
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I thought she was fired over it. |
bling bling |
Aug-23-06 01:51 PM |
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Not sure if its in the Frontline... |
heliarc |
Aug-24-06 05:10 AM |
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I found this.... |
bling bling |
Aug-24-06 01:26 PM |
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Great quote.... |
heliarc |
Aug-25-06 09:51 AM |
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Burning the flag is not just a stunt. |
annabanana |
Aug-22-06 04:30 AM |
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I agree, but |
Ms. Toad |
Aug-22-06 07:28 AM |
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And I Disagree |
Crisco |
Aug-23-06 10:39 AM |
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Burning the flag IS a stunt. |
last1standing |
Aug-22-06 03:47 PM |
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Free speech and unpopular speech are not by definition idiocy. |
Alexodin |
Aug-22-06 04:34 AM |
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Voltaire said it, and I agree with him. |
last1standing |
Aug-22-06 06:58 PM |
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This teacher very clearly "thought" about it before the class. Of course |
coalition_unwilling |
Aug-23-06 02:45 PM |
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totally agree |
greenman3610 |
Aug-22-06 07:00 AM |
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I'm with you |
cali |
Aug-22-06 07:06 AM |
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Agreed |
GeorgiaDem69 |
Aug-22-06 07:24 AM |
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Oh, and they do... |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 10:41 AM |
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Then we wonder why americans slit blithley by while our country implodes. |
Exiled in America |
Aug-22-06 08:25 PM |
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That was a wonderfully sarcastic reply, only not very realistic. |
last1standing |
Aug-23-06 12:30 AM |
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Hmm... I don't believe I attacked "you" at any point. |
Exiled in America |
Aug-23-06 02:14 AM |
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I'd take one creative teacher like this over 100 who play it safe. n/t |
Doremus |
Aug-22-06 07:33 AM |
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Oh, please |
cali |
Aug-22-06 08:14 AM |
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Why? Did he have a drumroll or something...? |
Doremus |
Aug-22-06 08:56 AM |
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Yeah, its really melodramatic to actually dare to USE the 1st Amendment... |
Exiled in America |
Aug-22-06 08:14 PM |
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These kids will never forget what they have learned about the suppression |
tblue37 |
Aug-22-06 11:38 PM |
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I think its fair to think... |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 10:51 AM |
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Melodramatic? |
stepnw1f |
Aug-23-06 08:06 AM |
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Er, where the fuck did I say I was for a constitutional |
cali |
Aug-23-06 08:35 AM |
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That "stupid little act" Just Taught Those Kids a REAL Lesson |
stepnw1f |
Aug-23-06 08:50 AM |
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Hear Hear n/t |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 10:53 AM |
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Starting fires in a classroom... |
warrens |
Aug-22-06 08:18 AM |
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My chemistry teacher lived to set fires in class, or explosions |
noonwitch |
Aug-22-06 09:29 AM |
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Science Classroom vs. Non-Science Classroom |
marshall |
Aug-23-06 09:32 AM |
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"Social Sciences" |
Crisco |
Aug-23-06 11:51 AM |
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Ah, maybe that is true |
marshall |
Aug-23-06 12:30 PM |
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These Were Not Full-Sized Flags |
Crisco |
Aug-23-06 02:02 PM |
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Heh. See #90. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-25-06 10:29 AM |
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Not too bright??? |
robcon |
Aug-22-06 08:25 AM |
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This teacher makes Idiot Of The Week |
brentspeak |
Aug-22-06 09:28 AM |
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One of my middle school teachers burned hydrogen in class. |
mccoyn |
Aug-22-06 09:57 AM |
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The teacher pushed his own views down their throats |
trixie |
Aug-22-06 01:42 PM |
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Yes, the horrible view that the first amendment actually means something! |
Exiled in America |
Aug-22-06 08:15 PM |
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Oh stop right there |
trixie |
Aug-23-06 07:53 AM |
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Quit your bellyaching |
Khayembii Communique |
Aug-23-06 10:26 AM |
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It may comply with constitutional law but it sure doesn't comply with ~ |
lynne |
Aug-23-06 05:44 PM |
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BS |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 11:07 AM |
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As soon as he set fire to the flag he silenced debate |
trixie |
Aug-24-06 11:51 AM |
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Not true |
heliarc |
Aug-25-06 10:33 AM |
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So if he had made racist remarks |
trixie |
Aug-25-06 02:14 PM |
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He couldn't use video or pictures? |
Bleachers7 |
Aug-22-06 07:51 PM |
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Simple. |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 11:12 AM |
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geez |
soaky |
Aug-22-06 10:11 PM |
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Point: he might have set fire to the classroom. Or the school. |
robcon |
Aug-23-06 07:41 AM |
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Guess your kids won't be taking chemistry. n/t |
Doremus |
Aug-23-06 09:57 AM |
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Let's put two statements from the article in perspective |
YankeyMCC |
Aug-23-06 07:45 AM |
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He could have gotten a buzz a number of ways. |
igil |
Aug-23-06 10:07 AM |
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I agree with the teather's stance... |
Hepburn |
Aug-23-06 10:18 AM |
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Sounds like an awesome assignment, actually. |
SmokingJacket |
Aug-23-06 10:48 AM |
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I agree with you... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-23-06 12:44 PM |
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Teaching K-12 will do this to you. After another year, he'd burn himself |
yurbud |
Aug-23-06 12:42 PM |
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Yeah he might re-enact the Buddhist protests in Vietnam |
heliarc |
Aug-24-06 05:34 AM |
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I think K-12 would be better if run like college. Administrators |
yurbud |
Aug-24-06 10:43 AM |
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I have no problem with this at all. |
bling bling |
Aug-23-06 01:48 PM |
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Alternatives |
marshall |
Aug-23-06 02:15 PM |
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This is a difficult proposition... |
heliarc |
Aug-24-06 05:40 AM |
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Banned Book Week is coming up |
marshall |
Aug-25-06 09:47 AM |
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Good thing that he doesn't teach sex ed |
Freddie Stubbs |
Aug-23-06 03:04 PM |
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Haha... |
heliarc |
Aug-24-06 05:21 AM |
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Oh, sure, the safety aspect. |
MasonJar |
Aug-23-06 04:10 PM |
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The teacher has been there since 1979 --- before many here were born. |
DarbyUSMC |
Aug-23-06 06:42 PM |
#80 |
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