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Wed Aug-23-06 08:50 AM
Response to Reply #47 |
| 48. That "stupid little act" Just Taught Those Kids a REAL Lesson |
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about this country. And I didn't mean to accuse you of supporting the ban of flag burning, although looking at how I wrote what I did, I can see how you would. I accused you of reacting melodramatically because what was done should not be seen as a "big Deal" or a "stunt". It was a FUCKING lesson! And the lesson and manner in which the teacher used was most effective!
I will say this; he should have burned the flag outside of the classroom so as to note break any fire code laws.
I applaud this teacher for trying...
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| -Teacher reassigned after burning U.S. flags in class |
deadparrot |
Aug-21-06 11:18 PM |
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Sig Heil Ya'll nt |
OwnedByFerrets |
Aug-21-06 11:28 PM |
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Free Speech Lesson #1 |
wellst0nev0ter |
Aug-21-06 11:36 PM |
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So much for the principle of academic freedom. (n/t) |
coalition_unwilling |
Aug-23-06 02:37 PM |
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Lord knows... |
Ready4Change |
Aug-21-06 11:38 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-21-06 11:52 PM |
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Devil's advocate on 1 point.... |
pepperbear |
Aug-21-06 11:55 PM |
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Agreed |
Ohio Joe |
Aug-22-06 07:43 AM |
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Was it even necessary to burn the flag? |
LiberalFighter |
Aug-22-06 09:26 AM |
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Wow, somebody actually burned a flag! |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-21-06 11:59 PM |
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What's even more incredible, he did it in Kentucky. |
beam me up scottie |
Aug-22-06 12:09 AM |
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Maybe he should have burned a bible, too. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-22-06 07:28 AM |
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Are you kidding? This idiot teacher would have been fired in ANY state. |
brentspeak |
Aug-22-06 09:32 AM |
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What if he burned an unrelated object? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-25-06 10:25 AM |
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burning a flag or a paper bag in a class is pretty stupid & a risk to kids |
wordpix2 |
Aug-25-06 10:31 AM |
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Those "red state talibornagains" will probably celebrate the teacher's |
coalition_unwilling |
Aug-23-06 02:41 PM |
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Being a teacher myself in the Jefferson Co, Public Schools, I am |
MasonJar |
Aug-23-06 04:27 PM |
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With rights come responsibilities. |
last1standing |
Aug-22-06 02:05 AM |
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Agreed |
Sherman A1 |
Aug-22-06 03:16 AM |
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Really? |
heliarc |
Aug-22-06 04:20 AM |
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Well... |
heliarc |
Aug-22-06 04:19 AM |
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Good link.... |
CanSocDem |
Aug-22-06 08:21 AM |
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Did Jane Elliot burn a flag in class? |
last1standing |
Aug-22-06 03:43 PM |
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No she didn't, but... |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 10:27 AM |
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I agree that unorthodox teaching methods can be very effective. |
last1standing |
Aug-23-06 01:27 PM |
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You don't get it: the uproar is the lesson. Bravo to this teacher |
coalition_unwilling |
Aug-23-06 02:43 PM |
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I'm sure one of us doesn't get it. |
last1standing |
Aug-23-06 03:56 PM |
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I thought she was fired over it. |
bling bling |
Aug-23-06 01:51 PM |
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Not sure if its in the Frontline... |
heliarc |
Aug-24-06 05:10 AM |
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I found this.... |
bling bling |
Aug-24-06 01:26 PM |
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Great quote.... |
heliarc |
Aug-25-06 09:51 AM |
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Burning the flag is not just a stunt. |
annabanana |
Aug-22-06 04:30 AM |
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I agree, but |
Ms. Toad |
Aug-22-06 07:28 AM |
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And I Disagree |
Crisco |
Aug-23-06 10:39 AM |
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Burning the flag IS a stunt. |
last1standing |
Aug-22-06 03:47 PM |
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Free speech and unpopular speech are not by definition idiocy. |
Alexodin |
Aug-22-06 04:34 AM |
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Voltaire said it, and I agree with him. |
last1standing |
Aug-22-06 06:58 PM |
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This teacher very clearly "thought" about it before the class. Of course |
coalition_unwilling |
Aug-23-06 02:45 PM |
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totally agree |
greenman3610 |
Aug-22-06 07:00 AM |
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I'm with you |
cali |
Aug-22-06 07:06 AM |
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Agreed |
GeorgiaDem69 |
Aug-22-06 07:24 AM |
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Oh, and they do... |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 10:41 AM |
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Then we wonder why americans slit blithley by while our country implodes. |
Exiled in America |
Aug-22-06 08:25 PM |
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That was a wonderfully sarcastic reply, only not very realistic. |
last1standing |
Aug-23-06 12:30 AM |
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Hmm... I don't believe I attacked "you" at any point. |
Exiled in America |
Aug-23-06 02:14 AM |
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I'd take one creative teacher like this over 100 who play it safe. n/t |
Doremus |
Aug-22-06 07:33 AM |
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Oh, please |
cali |
Aug-22-06 08:14 AM |
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Why? Did he have a drumroll or something...? |
Doremus |
Aug-22-06 08:56 AM |
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Yeah, its really melodramatic to actually dare to USE the 1st Amendment... |
Exiled in America |
Aug-22-06 08:14 PM |
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These kids will never forget what they have learned about the suppression |
tblue37 |
Aug-22-06 11:38 PM |
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I think its fair to think... |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 10:51 AM |
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Melodramatic? |
stepnw1f |
Aug-23-06 08:06 AM |
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Er, where the fuck did I say I was for a constitutional |
cali |
Aug-23-06 08:35 AM |
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That "stupid little act" Just Taught Those Kids a REAL Lesson |
stepnw1f |
Aug-23-06 08:50 AM |
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Hear Hear n/t |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 10:53 AM |
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Starting fires in a classroom... |
warrens |
Aug-22-06 08:18 AM |
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My chemistry teacher lived to set fires in class, or explosions |
noonwitch |
Aug-22-06 09:29 AM |
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Science Classroom vs. Non-Science Classroom |
marshall |
Aug-23-06 09:32 AM |
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"Social Sciences" |
Crisco |
Aug-23-06 11:51 AM |
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Ah, maybe that is true |
marshall |
Aug-23-06 12:30 PM |
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These Were Not Full-Sized Flags |
Crisco |
Aug-23-06 02:02 PM |
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Heh. See #90. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-25-06 10:29 AM |
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Not too bright??? |
robcon |
Aug-22-06 08:25 AM |
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This teacher makes Idiot Of The Week |
brentspeak |
Aug-22-06 09:28 AM |
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One of my middle school teachers burned hydrogen in class. |
mccoyn |
Aug-22-06 09:57 AM |
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The teacher pushed his own views down their throats |
trixie |
Aug-22-06 01:42 PM |
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Yes, the horrible view that the first amendment actually means something! |
Exiled in America |
Aug-22-06 08:15 PM |
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Oh stop right there |
trixie |
Aug-23-06 07:53 AM |
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Quit your bellyaching |
Khayembii Communique |
Aug-23-06 10:26 AM |
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It may comply with constitutional law but it sure doesn't comply with ~ |
lynne |
Aug-23-06 05:44 PM |
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BS |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 11:07 AM |
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As soon as he set fire to the flag he silenced debate |
trixie |
Aug-24-06 11:51 AM |
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Not true |
heliarc |
Aug-25-06 10:33 AM |
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So if he had made racist remarks |
trixie |
Aug-25-06 02:14 PM |
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He couldn't use video or pictures? |
Bleachers7 |
Aug-22-06 07:51 PM |
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Simple. |
heliarc |
Aug-23-06 11:12 AM |
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geez |
soaky |
Aug-22-06 10:11 PM |
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Point: he might have set fire to the classroom. Or the school. |
robcon |
Aug-23-06 07:41 AM |
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Guess your kids won't be taking chemistry. n/t |
Doremus |
Aug-23-06 09:57 AM |
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Let's put two statements from the article in perspective |
YankeyMCC |
Aug-23-06 07:45 AM |
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He could have gotten a buzz a number of ways. |
igil |
Aug-23-06 10:07 AM |
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I agree with the teather's stance... |
Hepburn |
Aug-23-06 10:18 AM |
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Sounds like an awesome assignment, actually. |
SmokingJacket |
Aug-23-06 10:48 AM |
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I agree with you... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-23-06 12:44 PM |
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Teaching K-12 will do this to you. After another year, he'd burn himself |
yurbud |
Aug-23-06 12:42 PM |
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Yeah he might re-enact the Buddhist protests in Vietnam |
heliarc |
Aug-24-06 05:34 AM |
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I think K-12 would be better if run like college. Administrators |
yurbud |
Aug-24-06 10:43 AM |
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I have no problem with this at all. |
bling bling |
Aug-23-06 01:48 PM |
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Alternatives |
marshall |
Aug-23-06 02:15 PM |
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This is a difficult proposition... |
heliarc |
Aug-24-06 05:40 AM |
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Banned Book Week is coming up |
marshall |
Aug-25-06 09:47 AM |
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Good thing that he doesn't teach sex ed |
Freddie Stubbs |
Aug-23-06 03:04 PM |
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Haha... |
heliarc |
Aug-24-06 05:21 AM |
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Oh, sure, the safety aspect. |
MasonJar |
Aug-23-06 04:10 PM |
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The teacher has been there since 1979 --- before many here were born. |
DarbyUSMC |
Aug-23-06 06:42 PM |
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