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| 79. I think the calls for withdrawal as soon as possible will start to |
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multiply, especially since two Generals with first-hand knowledge of what the situation is like on the ground in Iraq, have said that Iraq is slipping into civil war.
This has to seep in a little bit more. Sen. Feingold, Kerry, Boxer, Durbin and others have been steadily making the case that we cannot win this war. The solutions in Iraq require political solutions that cannot be imposed at the end of US guns. Sen. Hagel made a speech the other day that acknowledged this. Now Sen. Hagel and others have to start voting their worries and start insisting that the Bush Administration face the reality that the US troops are in a non-tenable position.
I think this is just the beginning of the torrents of Dems who will start to fall in line and call for withdrawal as soon as possible. (There are logistical and safety concerns in moving that many troops. It will take a while to move 135,000 people and at least some equipment out of that theater of operation. As soon as possible might be 3-6 months.)
Thank you Senator Edwards. Every voice that is raised for this is most welcome. Thank you for your courage in saying this. I hope to God that Bush and Rumsfeld are listening.
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| -John Edwards calls for immediate withdrawal from Iraq |
allemand |
Aug-05-06 04:21 PM |
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Getting out of DC puts politician back in touch with his base. |
HereSince1628 |
Aug-05-06 04:26 PM |
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Edwards started as a complete political neophyte in 1998, and .. |
struggle4progress |
Aug-05-06 04:56 PM |
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I Think You Said It Very Well... |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 05:12 PM |
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well said and I completely agree with your assessment. |
spooky3 |
Aug-05-06 05:25 PM |
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Yes well he voted for the IRW and he stuck with his support after |
HereSince1628 |
Aug-05-06 07:46 PM |
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Edwards spent the 04 debate with Cheney criticizing the Iraq adventure |
struggle4progress |
Aug-05-06 09:05 PM |
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A very sensible analysis. |
MeanBone |
Aug-06-06 01:44 AM |
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Yes, and he's also wicked smart |
MontanaMaven |
Aug-06-06 01:19 PM |
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Iraq withdrawal now called redeployment? - or is this pull 40k & stop |
papau |
Aug-05-06 05:30 PM |
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Link? Google turns up nothing for me. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 06:24 PM |
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Here is the DEMOCRATIC PARTY POSITION - at least it is as of today! |
papau |
Aug-05-06 08:49 PM |
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Dem plans were submitted for withdrawal - Edwards should use his cache |
blm |
Aug-05-06 04:27 PM |
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if Edwards makes immediate withdrawal from Iraq... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 04:27 PM |
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They were getting hurt by swiftboat vets |
Monkeyman |
Aug-05-06 04:31 PM |
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It seems that if one senator or congressmen or woman says.. |
butterfly77 |
Aug-05-06 04:27 PM |
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Oh, I Just LOVE Him!! |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 04:29 PM |
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As much as it might be an effective issue to campaign on |
demnan |
Aug-05-06 04:33 PM |
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I Happen To Agree With You... There Are Quite A Few Other |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 04:38 PM |
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Me too - I hope there IS no war by then. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 06:26 PM |
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Yeah!! Lets hear it from Mr. Vote for the WAR |
keta11 |
Aug-05-06 04:36 PM |
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Do Tell? |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 04:42 PM |
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Yep one time Kerry was to be in IN they called us to come |
Monkeyman |
Aug-05-06 04:47 PM |
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with all due respect... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 04:47 PM |
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Your not hearing Edward duing the 2004 run wanted Iraq |
Monkeyman |
Aug-05-06 05:36 PM |
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Nonsense. Edwards was one of the biggest Democratic cheerleaders |
GreenArrow |
Aug-05-06 08:01 PM |
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Sorry, that's just a rant |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 08:52 PM |
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I'm not making anything up |
GreenArrow |
Aug-06-06 09:16 AM |
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A very fair and honest analysis, as always. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 06:28 PM |
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JRE did not support Bush's War |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:12 PM |
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you're mistaken-- the IWR called for NONE of those things.... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 07:21 PM |
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No, I am not |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:36 PM |
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Sec. 2 expresses Congress's support for PREVIOUS diplomacy... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 07:40 PM |
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Previous, current, and future |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 08:58 PM |
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many democrats did just that-- the honorable ones... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 09:03 PM |
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We went 0-5 in Southern Senate races in 2004 |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 10:29 PM |
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THANK YOU! |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 07:46 PM |
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he should have been smart enough to know what that bastard bush would do |
Skittles |
Aug-05-06 11:49 PM |
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the WHOLE fucking world knew! |
GreenArrow |
Aug-06-06 09:20 AM |
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I would vote Feingold, Kucinich etal anyday over |
keta11 |
Aug-05-06 07:42 PM |
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And you would keep losing elections |
ruggerson |
Aug-06-06 11:28 AM |
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most telling line in the article is this: |
GreenArrow |
Aug-05-06 07:44 PM |
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Oh, pulleeezzz |
philgobluemi |
Aug-06-06 05:03 PM |
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pulleezz nothin' |
GreenArrow |
Aug-06-06 08:11 PM |
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Interesting, but not at all |
philgobluemi |
Aug-06-06 08:32 PM |
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He sounds like Senator Kerry, only Kerry has drawn up actual |
wisteria |
Aug-05-06 04:45 PM |
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kerry has NEVER had the courage to call for immediate withdrawal.... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 04:50 PM |
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I KICK For Your Statement.... |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 05:05 PM |
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What? Where have you been? Kerry has been out front and in the |
wisteria |
Aug-05-06 05:20 PM |
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Sorry, but Kerry has called for immediate withdraw .along with |
wisteria |
Aug-05-06 05:11 PM |
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Immediate? 12 to 18 months or so? Kerry's plan: out by July 2007! |
ProSense |
Aug-05-06 05:14 PM |
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I concede the point.... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 05:24 PM |
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Tom Joad's plan. Out by week from Thursday. |
Tom Joad |
Aug-05-06 05:42 PM |
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I don't think it is about plans |
PATRICK |
Aug-05-06 05:56 PM |
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I know what it's about: withdrawal. A real strategy that |
ProSense |
Aug-05-06 06:49 PM |
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No Crusader Castles |
PATRICK |
Aug-07-06 03:59 PM |
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Agreed. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 06:29 PM |
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This is fucking ridiculous. Edwards is proposing what Kerry has proposed |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:19 PM |
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So, are you retracting this statement now? |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:40 PM |
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No. as I said, people are not applauding what Edwards say. They are |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:43 PM |
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I'm sorry, when did Kerry or Clark call for immediate withdrawal? |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 08:36 PM |
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When did Edwards? " Immediate withdrawal" is the title form AP, not a |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 08:39 PM |
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It appears I was fooled. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 08:55 PM |
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delete |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:16 PM |
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What's wrong with all US troops? Why the wait? Why the idiocy? |
Tom Joad |
Aug-05-06 05:41 PM |
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He is Saying 40,000 Out ASAP |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 06:13 PM |
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Iraqis *are* defending themselves. They are repelling a foreign occupatio |
Tom Joad |
Aug-05-06 06:36 PM |
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They Are Fighting Each Other |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 07:03 PM |
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Edwards foot dragging is also making it worse. Troops out NOW! |
Tom Joad |
Aug-05-06 08:08 PM |
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To agree and disagree |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 08:21 PM |
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Your VERY Fine Statement Here Is What I Was Referring To When |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-06-06 01:25 PM |
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Great! John Edwards is still presidential material. (nt) |
w4rma |
Aug-05-06 06:20 PM |
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Kudos, Edwards. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 06:22 PM |
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Kerry proposed that more than 9 months ago. |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:15 PM |
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So did Edwards |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:18 PM |
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Oh, so it is not news. Why is it so great in this case. |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:21 PM |
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This Has Been JRE's Position Since December 2005 |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:29 PM |
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OK. This is still not immediate withdrawal. This is basically the |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:32 PM |
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Yes, this position is clearly part of a progressive Democratic |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:38 PM |
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The earliest position statement I remember seeing... |
machka |
Aug-06-06 02:23 AM |
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Edwards showed remarkable courage |
venable |
Aug-05-06 08:23 PM |
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That's my man! I may be able to vote democratic this time! nt |
VegasWolf |
Aug-05-06 06:43 PM |
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EDWARDS / CLARK 08!!!! THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR AMERICA |
grytpype |
Aug-05-06 06:54 PM |
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A most excellent ticket for '08! |
Inspired |
Aug-06-06 09:16 AM |
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Clark will never be Edwards VP. |
Clarkie1 |
Aug-06-06 06:41 PM |
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This has been JRE's position since |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:06 PM |
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welcome to DU, philgobluemi! |
spooky3 |
Aug-05-06 07:13 PM |
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Hello |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 08:23 PM |
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That was the plan submitted by Kerry in Oct 05, and to the senate in |
blm |
Aug-06-06 11:26 AM |
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Hi phigobluemi !!!! |
Catchawave |
Aug-07-06 07:56 PM |
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Immediate withdrawal in 18 months. The title is a little bit misleading. |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:09 PM |
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Great! .. Now will he call for a ceasefire in Lebanon and Palestine? |
mom cat |
Aug-05-06 07:15 PM |
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He's Calling for International Troops to be in S. Lebanon |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 08:00 PM |
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That is different from calling for a ceasefire. Is he calling for an |
mom cat |
Aug-05-06 08:35 PM |
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That was not clear to me |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 08:45 PM |
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kick! |
usregimechange |
Aug-05-06 07:31 PM |
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I think the calls for withdrawal as soon as possible will start to |
TayTay |
Aug-05-06 11:30 PM |
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Well, that's great. But Dennis Kucinich, and a few other Dems, |
Zorra |
Aug-05-06 11:41 PM |
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but Johnny is prettier! |
dweller |
Aug-05-06 11:48 PM |
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Right on, John Edwards! |
NVMojo |
Aug-06-06 02:03 AM |
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POOF !!!! |
UDenver20 |
Aug-06-06 02:29 AM |
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Don't Think So |
benny05 |
Aug-06-06 07:14 AM |
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Huh??? n/t |
retread |
Aug-06-06 12:09 PM |
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why? |
MATTMAN |
Aug-07-06 06:12 PM |
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I've got to check the NH Dem schedule more often. |
Vinca |
Aug-06-06 07:06 AM |
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If You Ever Get To See Him In Person.... |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-06-06 12:44 PM |
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No shit? Where the fuck has he been? Watching what happened to Leibercon? |
The Stranger |
Aug-06-06 02:45 PM |
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Get out of the wrong side of the bed today? |
Inspired |
Aug-06-06 03:00 PM |
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Ugh, read first, then post |
philgobluemi |
Aug-06-06 03:10 PM |
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That's just when it was published. ;-) |
machka |
Aug-06-06 05:43 PM |
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Then why is it LBN? |
The Stranger |
Aug-06-06 10:12 PM |
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What's Up Here? |
benny05 |
Aug-07-06 06:00 PM |
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