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Sat Aug-05-06 07:36 PM
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SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS. The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--
(1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and
(2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.
"obtain ... decisive action by the Security Council...."
I could go through the rest, but I've got to go paint.
Was it an ideal IWR? No!
What it better than the republican-only alternative? Yes.
Were Democrats politically smart not to look soft on Saddam but lay a foundation for future criticism of BushCo if they broke the IWR? Yes.
Can one ecpect a senator from North Carolina who was still considering running for reelection to commit political suicide for something that would change nothing and end in his replacement by a total wingnut? No. Let's be realistic. This is politics? Not a dreamland.
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| -John Edwards calls for immediate withdrawal from Iraq |
allemand |
Aug-05-06 04:21 PM |
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Getting out of DC puts politician back in touch with his base. |
HereSince1628 |
Aug-05-06 04:26 PM |
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Edwards started as a complete political neophyte in 1998, and .. |
struggle4progress |
Aug-05-06 04:56 PM |
#14 |
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I Think You Said It Very Well... |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 05:12 PM |
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well said and I completely agree with your assessment. |
spooky3 |
Aug-05-06 05:25 PM |
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Yes well he voted for the IRW and he stuck with his support after |
HereSince1628 |
Aug-05-06 07:46 PM |
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Edwards spent the 04 debate with Cheney criticizing the Iraq adventure |
struggle4progress |
Aug-05-06 09:05 PM |
#77 |
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A very sensible analysis. |
MeanBone |
Aug-06-06 01:44 AM |
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Yes, and he's also wicked smart |
MontanaMaven |
Aug-06-06 01:19 PM |
#96 |
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Iraq withdrawal now called redeployment? - or is this pull 40k & stop |
papau |
Aug-05-06 05:30 PM |
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Link? Google turns up nothing for me. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 06:24 PM |
#30 |
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Here is the DEMOCRATIC PARTY POSITION - at least it is as of today! |
papau |
Aug-05-06 08:49 PM |
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Dem plans were submitted for withdrawal - Edwards should use his cache |
blm |
Aug-05-06 04:27 PM |
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if Edwards makes immediate withdrawal from Iraq... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 04:27 PM |
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They were getting hurt by swiftboat vets |
Monkeyman |
Aug-05-06 04:31 PM |
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It seems that if one senator or congressmen or woman says.. |
butterfly77 |
Aug-05-06 04:27 PM |
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Oh, I Just LOVE Him!! |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 04:29 PM |
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As much as it might be an effective issue to campaign on |
demnan |
Aug-05-06 04:33 PM |
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I Happen To Agree With You... There Are Quite A Few Other |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 04:38 PM |
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Me too - I hope there IS no war by then. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 06:26 PM |
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Yeah!! Lets hear it from Mr. Vote for the WAR |
keta11 |
Aug-05-06 04:36 PM |
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Do Tell? |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 04:42 PM |
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Yep one time Kerry was to be in IN they called us to come |
Monkeyman |
Aug-05-06 04:47 PM |
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with all due respect... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 04:47 PM |
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Your not hearing Edward duing the 2004 run wanted Iraq |
Monkeyman |
Aug-05-06 05:36 PM |
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Nonsense. Edwards was one of the biggest Democratic cheerleaders |
GreenArrow |
Aug-05-06 08:01 PM |
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Sorry, that's just a rant |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 08:52 PM |
#73 |
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I'm not making anything up |
GreenArrow |
Aug-06-06 09:16 AM |
#89 |
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A very fair and honest analysis, as always. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 06:28 PM |
#32 |
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JRE did not support Bush's War |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:12 PM |
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you're mistaken-- the IWR called for NONE of those things.... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 07:21 PM |
#49 |
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No, I am not |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:36 PM |
#53 |
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Sec. 2 expresses Congress's support for PREVIOUS diplomacy... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 07:40 PM |
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Previous, current, and future |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 08:58 PM |
#75 |
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many democrats did just that-- the honorable ones... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 09:03 PM |
#76 |
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We went 0-5 in Southern Senate races in 2004 |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 10:29 PM |
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THANK YOU! |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 07:46 PM |
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he should have been smart enough to know what that bastard bush would do |
Skittles |
Aug-05-06 11:49 PM |
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the WHOLE fucking world knew! |
GreenArrow |
Aug-06-06 09:20 AM |
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I would vote Feingold, Kucinich etal anyday over |
keta11 |
Aug-05-06 07:42 PM |
#57 |
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And you would keep losing elections |
ruggerson |
Aug-06-06 11:28 AM |
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most telling line in the article is this: |
GreenArrow |
Aug-05-06 07:44 PM |
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Oh, pulleeezzz |
philgobluemi |
Aug-06-06 05:03 PM |
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pulleezz nothin' |
GreenArrow |
Aug-06-06 08:11 PM |
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Interesting, but not at all |
philgobluemi |
Aug-06-06 08:32 PM |
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He sounds like Senator Kerry, only Kerry has drawn up actual |
wisteria |
Aug-05-06 04:45 PM |
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kerry has NEVER had the courage to call for immediate withdrawal.... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 04:50 PM |
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I KICK For Your Statement.... |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-05-06 05:05 PM |
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What? Where have you been? Kerry has been out front and in the |
wisteria |
Aug-05-06 05:20 PM |
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Sorry, but Kerry has called for immediate withdraw .along with |
wisteria |
Aug-05-06 05:11 PM |
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Immediate? 12 to 18 months or so? Kerry's plan: out by July 2007! |
ProSense |
Aug-05-06 05:14 PM |
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I concede the point.... |
mike_c |
Aug-05-06 05:24 PM |
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Tom Joad's plan. Out by week from Thursday. |
Tom Joad |
Aug-05-06 05:42 PM |
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I don't think it is about plans |
PATRICK |
Aug-05-06 05:56 PM |
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I know what it's about: withdrawal. A real strategy that |
ProSense |
Aug-05-06 06:49 PM |
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No Crusader Castles |
PATRICK |
Aug-07-06 03:59 PM |
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Agreed. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 06:29 PM |
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This is fucking ridiculous. Edwards is proposing what Kerry has proposed |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:19 PM |
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So, are you retracting this statement now? |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:40 PM |
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No. as I said, people are not applauding what Edwards say. They are |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:43 PM |
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I'm sorry, when did Kerry or Clark call for immediate withdrawal? |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 08:36 PM |
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When did Edwards? " Immediate withdrawal" is the title form AP, not a |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 08:39 PM |
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It appears I was fooled. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 08:55 PM |
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delete |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:16 PM |
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What's wrong with all US troops? Why the wait? Why the idiocy? |
Tom Joad |
Aug-05-06 05:41 PM |
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He is Saying 40,000 Out ASAP |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 06:13 PM |
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Iraqis *are* defending themselves. They are repelling a foreign occupatio |
Tom Joad |
Aug-05-06 06:36 PM |
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They Are Fighting Each Other |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 07:03 PM |
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Edwards foot dragging is also making it worse. Troops out NOW! |
Tom Joad |
Aug-05-06 08:08 PM |
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To agree and disagree |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 08:21 PM |
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Your VERY Fine Statement Here Is What I Was Referring To When |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-06-06 01:25 PM |
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Great! John Edwards is still presidential material. (nt) |
w4rma |
Aug-05-06 06:20 PM |
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Kudos, Edwards. |
Zhade |
Aug-05-06 06:22 PM |
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Kerry proposed that more than 9 months ago. |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:15 PM |
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So did Edwards |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:18 PM |
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Oh, so it is not news. Why is it so great in this case. |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:21 PM |
#48 |
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This Has Been JRE's Position Since December 2005 |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:29 PM |
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OK. This is still not immediate withdrawal. This is basically the |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:32 PM |
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Yes, this position is clearly part of a progressive Democratic |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:38 PM |
#54 |
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The earliest position statement I remember seeing... |
machka |
Aug-06-06 02:23 AM |
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Edwards showed remarkable courage |
venable |
Aug-05-06 08:23 PM |
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That's my man! I may be able to vote democratic this time! nt |
VegasWolf |
Aug-05-06 06:43 PM |
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EDWARDS / CLARK 08!!!! THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR AMERICA |
grytpype |
Aug-05-06 06:54 PM |
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A most excellent ticket for '08! |
Inspired |
Aug-06-06 09:16 AM |
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Clark will never be Edwards VP. |
Clarkie1 |
Aug-06-06 06:41 PM |
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This has been JRE's position since |
philgobluemi |
Aug-05-06 07:06 PM |
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welcome to DU, philgobluemi! |
spooky3 |
Aug-05-06 07:13 PM |
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Hello |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 08:23 PM |
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That was the plan submitted by Kerry in Oct 05, and to the senate in |
blm |
Aug-06-06 11:26 AM |
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Hi phigobluemi !!!! |
Catchawave |
Aug-07-06 07:56 PM |
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Immediate withdrawal in 18 months. The title is a little bit misleading. |
Mass |
Aug-05-06 07:09 PM |
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Great! .. Now will he call for a ceasefire in Lebanon and Palestine? |
mom cat |
Aug-05-06 07:15 PM |
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He's Calling for International Troops to be in S. Lebanon |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 08:00 PM |
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That is different from calling for a ceasefire. Is he calling for an |
mom cat |
Aug-05-06 08:35 PM |
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That was not clear to me |
benny05 |
Aug-05-06 08:45 PM |
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kick! |
usregimechange |
Aug-05-06 07:31 PM |
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I think the calls for withdrawal as soon as possible will start to |
TayTay |
Aug-05-06 11:30 PM |
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Well, that's great. But Dennis Kucinich, and a few other Dems, |
Zorra |
Aug-05-06 11:41 PM |
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but Johnny is prettier! |
dweller |
Aug-05-06 11:48 PM |
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Right on, John Edwards! |
NVMojo |
Aug-06-06 02:03 AM |
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POOF !!!! |
UDenver20 |
Aug-06-06 02:29 AM |
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Don't Think So |
benny05 |
Aug-06-06 07:14 AM |
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Huh??? n/t |
retread |
Aug-06-06 12:09 PM |
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why? |
MATTMAN |
Aug-07-06 06:12 PM |
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I've got to check the NH Dem schedule more often. |
Vinca |
Aug-06-06 07:06 AM |
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If You Ever Get To See Him In Person.... |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-06-06 12:44 PM |
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No shit? Where the fuck has he been? Watching what happened to Leibercon? |
The Stranger |
Aug-06-06 02:45 PM |
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Get out of the wrong side of the bed today? |
Inspired |
Aug-06-06 03:00 PM |
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Ugh, read first, then post |
philgobluemi |
Aug-06-06 03:10 PM |
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That's just when it was published. ;-) |
machka |
Aug-06-06 05:43 PM |
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Then why is it LBN? |
The Stranger |
Aug-06-06 10:12 PM |
#106 |
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What's Up Here? |
benny05 |
Aug-07-06 06:00 PM |
#108 |
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