| -Judge Orders Teen to Cancer Treatment |
Sam Odom |
Jul-21-06 07:24 PM |
#0 |
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Eh. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jul-21-06 07:28 PM |
#1 |
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You could educate yourself by reading: |
rainy |
Jul-21-06 07:48 PM |
#20 |
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have you ever heard of The Optimum Health Institute in san |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 08:31 PM |
#43 |
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Cancers sometimes go into remission by themselves.. |
JackDragna |
Jul-21-06 08:39 PM |
#45 |
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yes. some do go into remission. but this woman was not the |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 09:01 PM |
#47 |
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For every person saved by conventional treatment, I can find many more |
havocmom |
Jul-22-06 08:19 PM |
#93 |
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havocmom, I agree... |
susanna |
Jul-26-06 11:21 PM |
#243 |
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It makes such pure and simple sense. Putting electric, live |
rainy |
Jul-21-06 10:06 PM |
#66 |
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"Electric?" "Live energy?" |
JackDragna |
Jul-22-06 02:56 AM |
#68 |
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enzymes which are killed when you cook your food. Cooked |
rainy |
Jul-22-06 02:34 PM |
#89 |
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Enzymes are not alive, therefore they cannot be killed. |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-22-06 09:13 PM |
#96 |
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Ain't pseudoscience grand? (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jul-24-06 12:59 PM |
#110 |
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I love N rays. |
Realityhack |
Jul-27-06 08:30 PM |
#282 |
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Sigh... no, they're not "killed" |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 09:56 AM |
#123 |
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not to put to fine a point on it. |
zreosumgame |
Jul-25-06 10:08 AM |
#127 |
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Ha ha ha. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jul-25-06 04:41 PM |
#186 |
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cancelled n/t (responded wrong place) |
iverglas |
Jul-27-06 04:25 PM |
#271 |
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Background Info |
Sam Odom |
Jul-21-06 07:28 PM |
#2 |
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I was exceedingly impressed with this kid on tv. |
joeunderdog |
Jul-25-06 02:51 PM |
#177 |
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Starchild Abraham Cherrix |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 07:32 PM |
#3 |
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You may get flamed, but you're right. |
Redstone |
Jul-21-06 07:33 PM |
#7 |
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Might? Sure bet!!!! But too bad, I have a right to an opinion, too |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 07:52 PM |
#24 |
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Gotcha. On all points. |
Redstone |
Jul-21-06 07:53 PM |
#26 |
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i agree about the name. they should think of what the child |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 08:27 PM |
#41 |
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Acid trip name - LOL |
proud2Blib |
Jul-24-06 01:35 PM |
#114 |
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ABRAHAM Doesn't Want Chemo, Either |
Crisco |
Jul-26-06 09:28 PM |
#242 |
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cool, then I'm sure you won't mind chipping in for the medical bills |
ixion |
Jul-21-06 07:35 PM |
#9 |
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Well, of COURSE they will==they have CUSTODY, after all |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 07:42 PM |
#16 |
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My brother is a Hodgkins survivor. He relied on conventional medicine. |
megatherium |
Jul-21-06 08:37 PM |
#44 |
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Wow, and the odds were not as good back then. GOOD for HIM!!! |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 09:23 PM |
#58 |
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My guess is that the clinic in Mexico is counseling them to not have any |
leesa |
Jul-24-06 10:41 AM |
#102 |
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Oh, that one I know... |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:07 AM |
#126 |
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And that's your right, but count me out |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:02 AM |
#124 |
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16 is NOT old enough to judge for himself |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 10:21 AM |
#130 |
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I support the right of a pregnant 16 year old girl... |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:23 AM |
#131 |
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Well put. n/t |
susanna |
Jul-27-06 11:18 PM |
#286 |
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Your "anecdotes"..... |
CanSocDem |
Jul-26-06 04:02 PM |
#237 |
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My brother was diagnosed in 1978 with Stage IV-b Hodgkins... |
rexcat |
Jul-26-06 10:29 AM |
#222 |
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I do too-Hodgkins in teens has such a high recovery rate |
noonwitch |
Jul-24-06 12:53 PM |
#107 |
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Yeah I agree |
proud2Blib |
Jul-24-06 01:33 PM |
#113 |
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I'm sorry but what does that really have to do with anything? |
underpants |
Jul-25-06 11:56 AM |
#158 |
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two of my sisters-in-law suffered Hodgkins...and were saved by.. |
MnFats |
Jul-26-06 01:37 AM |
#211 |
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His name is "Starchild?" That should tell us all we need to know about |
Redstone |
Jul-21-06 07:32 PM |
#4 |
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Judgemental much? |
BuddhaGirl |
Jul-21-06 07:38 PM |
#11 |
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Sorry, I agree with the previous poster: the name is STOOOOOOPID |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 07:47 PM |
#19 |
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and that has what to do with the issue at hand? |
bicentennial_baby |
Jul-21-06 07:53 PM |
#27 |
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So sez you. My mileage varies. NT |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 07:56 PM |
#30 |
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Reinforces my belief that children should picck their own names when |
reprobate |
Jul-22-06 01:11 PM |
#86 |
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Or, using this as a precedent, have the court assign a name nt |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 04:55 PM |
#188 |
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Sorry homie, that's way outta line... |
bicentennial_baby |
Jul-21-06 07:52 PM |
#25 |
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I'll put his name up there really high on the list of stupid names. |
missb |
Jul-21-06 09:21 PM |
#57 |
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Boy..... |
boilinmad |
Jul-22-06 10:19 AM |
#77 |
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He has Hodgkin's Disease. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-24-06 12:46 PM |
#106 |
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how fucking dare they? i saw an interview with the young boy |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 07:33 PM |
#5 |
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That's a scary situation, isn't it? |
Redstone |
Jul-21-06 07:36 PM |
#10 |
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thank you for respecting my views. i had a very dear friend who |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 07:45 PM |
#18 |
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I lament your loss. I do. |
Redstone |
Jul-21-06 07:52 PM |
#22 |
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thank you. i don't know if i would mourn Bush' loss. i didn't |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 07:56 PM |
#32 |
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I agree... |
gator_in_Ontario |
Jul-21-06 08:01 PM |
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he seemed very mature when i saw him interviewed. |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 08:08 PM |
#36 |
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Something similar... |
CanSocDem |
Jul-21-06 08:12 PM |
#37 |
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you are so right. they just keep polluting the air and the food. |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 09:13 PM |
#53 |
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Personally, I think dairy is cool |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:38 AM |
#134 |
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good bleeding dog; I missed this one |
iverglas |
Jul-27-06 08:32 PM |
#283 |
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Actually survival rate is quite high w/ evidence based treatment |
OzarkDem |
Jul-21-06 10:57 PM |
#67 |
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My point about religion.... |
CanSocDem |
Jul-22-06 08:34 AM |
#73 |
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If I had a megaphone... |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:11 AM |
#128 |
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this boy here? the dead one? |
iverglas |
Jul-27-06 08:41 PM |
#284 |
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And he died....duh...follow my link |
saddemocrat |
Jul-28-06 09:19 AM |
#292 |
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oops -- thought I'd made that clear ;) n/t |
iverglas |
Jul-28-06 10:11 AM |
#298 |
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sorry....didn't mean to jump on you! |
saddemocrat |
Jul-28-06 11:49 PM |
#301 |
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I can give you some feedback on those who have refused |
Lars39 |
Jul-21-06 09:09 PM |
#50 |
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i'm happy that you survived. the choice was the right one for you. |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 09:16 PM |
#55 |
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people shouldn't be allowed to kill their children |
pitohui |
Jul-22-06 03:16 AM |
#70 |
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how fucking dare they? Would you say the same thing if they wanted |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 10:27 AM |
#132 |
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What if he was a she, |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:54 AM |
#139 |
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Not a violation of International Law |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 12:25 PM |
#162 |
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No, but I think it's a moot point |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 01:25 PM |
#173 |
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following the progress |
ulysses |
Jul-29-06 08:31 AM |
#305 |
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Amazing |
Susang |
Jul-31-06 11:03 PM |
#315 |
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This is not an unusal nor ground breaking legal case. The state |
TaleWgnDg |
Jul-21-06 07:33 PM |
#6 |
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Exactly. This is nothing new. |
Pithlet |
Jul-21-06 07:35 PM |
#8 |
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"withhold life saving medical treatments" |
Sam Odom |
Jul-21-06 07:38 PM |
#12 |
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Hodgkin's disease is deadly if not treated. |
Pithlet |
Jul-21-06 07:41 PM |
#15 |
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a 93 percent chance of recovery...I'd take those odds. |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 07:49 PM |
#21 |
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Thanks. I knew the odds were pretty good. |
Pithlet |
Jul-21-06 08:23 PM |
#39 |
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DING!! |
Realityhack |
Jul-27-06 08:12 PM |
#281 |
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The Snake Oil Sycophants here on DU will be all over this. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-21-06 07:39 PM |
#13 |
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as are the big pharma sycophants, obviously |
BuddhaGirl |
Jul-21-06 07:44 PM |
#17 |
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well you must admit that much of it is. do you see these drug |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 07:52 PM |
#23 |
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How many ads do you see for HODGKINS DRUGS, though? |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 07:55 PM |
#29 |
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you're right. i was being facetious. but you must admit that |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 07:59 PM |
#34 |
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No argument from me, there |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 09:08 PM |
#49 |
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love your post. you are so right. |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 09:27 PM |
#61 |
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Hodge-Away - Apply Directly to the Lymph Nodes |
AngryAmish |
Jul-22-06 09:41 AM |
#75 |
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my father did, and it drove him nuts. please be kind. |
brer cat |
Jul-21-06 09:11 PM |
#51 |
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i can only imagine. my husband has a habit of shaking his leg. |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 09:18 PM |
#56 |
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Thanks catmother, |
brer cat |
Jul-21-06 09:37 PM |
#63 |
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sorry about your dad. my dad died a year and a half ago from |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 09:50 PM |
#64 |
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It runs in my family, actually |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 09:55 PM |
#65 |
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I am against drug ads. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-21-06 09:37 PM |
#62 |
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Or that horrible toenail fungus |
proud2Blib |
Jul-24-06 01:44 PM |
#115 |
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I think people should be able to make their own decisions w/r/t treatment |
Mojambo |
Jul-21-06 07:39 PM |
#14 |
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i don't think suicide is illegal -- only assisted suicide. think about |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 07:53 PM |
#28 |
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I remember reading somewhere that suicide was illegal |
Mojambo |
Jul-21-06 07:56 PM |
#31 |
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maybe if you survive the attempt they prosecute you, but then |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 07:58 PM |
#33 |
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Suicide is illegal. |
NYC |
Jul-21-06 09:14 PM |
#54 |
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The reason suicide is illegal is to allow intervention |
Gormy Cuss |
Jul-22-06 09:35 AM |
#74 |
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Makes sense. |
NYC |
Jul-22-06 02:01 PM |
#88 |
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It's illegal in many, if not all, states |
havocmom |
Jul-22-06 08:32 PM |
#94 |
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this child is a minor |
pitohui |
Jul-22-06 03:17 AM |
#71 |
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should an 8 year be allowed to make his/her own decisions |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 10:35 AM |
#133 |
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Appalling that this young man cannot make decisions about how |
Crowdance |
Jul-21-06 08:01 PM |
#35 |
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Sort of off topic.. but please watch "A Lion in the House" |
SoCalDem |
Jul-21-06 08:17 PM |
#38 |
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i don't have to watch it. i would never put my child through that. |
catmother |
Jul-21-06 08:25 PM |
#40 |
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I second that |
Ariana Celeste |
Jul-24-06 12:19 PM |
#104 |
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Wow |
saddemocrat |
Jul-26-06 01:05 PM |
#230 |
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What a tough topic. Having a father refuse treatment and dieing |
JAYJDF |
Jul-21-06 08:30 PM |
#42 |
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I find it interesting that this 16 year old boy is not an adult |
dsc |
Jul-21-06 08:43 PM |
#46 |
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And if he was a she and pregnant, any judge would say it's her decision |
Biernuts |
Jul-21-06 09:04 PM |
#48 |
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very valid point |
dsc |
Jul-21-06 09:11 PM |
#52 |
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But pregnancy isn't a death sentence, nor is balding NT |
MADem |
Jul-21-06 09:26 PM |
#59 |
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pregnancy can be a death sentence for some women |
buddyhollysghost |
Jul-22-06 09:47 AM |
#76 |
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I think any woman given a choice that went along the lines of |
MADem |
Jul-22-06 05:18 PM |
#92 |
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I always laugh when folks say, "but childbirth is naaaaaatural." n/t |
susanna |
Jul-27-06 11:56 PM |
#288 |
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But what if I want to get laid and the bald spot turns off the |
Biernuts |
Jul-22-06 12:18 PM |
#84 |
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Shave the head completely, unless you look like four rocks in a |
MADem |
Jul-22-06 05:11 PM |
#91 |
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Pregnancy sometimes is a death sentence |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 11:05 AM |
#144 |
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chemotherapy does far more than make you bald |
dsc |
Jul-25-06 02:57 PM |
#178 |
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Thank you for that common sense. n/t |
susanna |
Jul-27-06 11:54 PM |
#287 |
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I support him 100% |
FredScuttle |
Jul-21-06 09:26 PM |
#60 |
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It's not brutal for everyone. |
Tracer |
Jul-22-06 11:28 AM |
#81 |
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I'm glad your experience went well |
FredScuttle |
Jul-22-06 09:10 PM |
#95 |
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Chemo is very brutal. Dying at 16 is even more brutal. nt |
Codeine |
Jul-22-06 10:32 PM |
#100 |
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hodgkin's disease is curable by today's chemotherapy |
pitohui |
Jul-22-06 03:12 AM |
#69 |
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Both sides are right |
astral |
Jul-22-06 08:13 AM |
#72 |
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I support Abraham and family 100%. |
Akoto |
Jul-22-06 10:25 AM |
#78 |
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There is a certain contigent that is deeply mistrustful of medical science |
Liberal Veteran |
Jul-22-06 10:52 AM |
#79 |
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Count me one of them.... |
CanSocDem |
Jul-22-06 11:25 AM |
#80 |
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why is self-will "anti-science"? |
FredScuttle |
Jul-22-06 09:15 PM |
#97 |
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chemotherapy is torture...... |
sinogirl |
Jul-22-06 11:36 AM |
#82 |
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No it isn't, for many its a cure |
OzarkDem |
Jul-25-06 09:53 PM |
#202 |
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This is the true "Men's Roe VS. Wade"! |
Bonobo |
Jul-22-06 11:46 AM |
#83 |
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100% agreed |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:52 AM |
#138 |
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The AUTHORITARIAN stance here is NOT appropriate. |
loudsue |
Jul-22-06 12:42 PM |
#85 |
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He's 16 -- he doesn't have any rights |
Nevernose |
Jul-22-06 09:36 PM |
#98 |
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So, once again, if this were a girl |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 11:33 AM |
#151 |
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Why not use both treatments? Sheesh, healthy food whadda concept. |
genieroze |
Jul-22-06 01:29 PM |
#87 |
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My Grandma did that |
Ariana Celeste |
Jul-24-06 12:23 PM |
#105 |
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"Integrative Oncology" is the study of conventional therapy.... |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-24-06 01:23 PM |
#112 |
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Depends on whom you ask |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:58 AM |
#141 |
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He's a minor, so his parents have the last say. Oops, I forgot the NSF |
genieroze |
Jul-25-06 11:21 AM |
#148 |
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we had a situation like this in my family |
mopinko |
Jul-22-06 02:43 PM |
#90 |
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Why do you assume it was the parents' decision |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 01:27 PM |
#174 |
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Thread's one big exercise in non-sequiturs & "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" |
Nevernose |
Jul-22-06 09:40 PM |
#99 |
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Authority rests with the legal guardians. As the state has partial custody |
Anarcho-Socialist |
Jul-24-06 08:51 AM |
#101 |
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More on the cancer |
xilet |
Jul-24-06 11:09 AM |
#103 |
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The Hoxsey Herbal Treatment, which is what the family wants to pursue, |
MilesColtrane |
Jul-24-06 12:54 PM |
#108 |
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Better than that bullshit vitamin C overdose some use, at least. :P (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jul-24-06 12:59 PM |
#109 |
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Coffee enemas is the reason Steve McQueen is still making movies |
AngryAmish |
Jul-25-06 09:51 AM |
#122 |
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Wow, that's a stretch of a decision |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 11:26 AM |
#149 |
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It's not a stretch..this, from the Prince v. Mass. decision... |
MilesColtrane |
Jul-26-06 02:23 AM |
#214 |
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The kid's receiving "The Hoxsey Treatment" |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-24-06 01:21 PM |
#111 |
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I agree |
Lorien |
Jul-25-06 04:58 PM |
#189 |
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And this is just another example that disproves right-wing |
Caution |
Jul-24-06 09:59 PM |
#116 |
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Woah there... you think forcing someone to undergo a medical treatment |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:56 AM |
#140 |
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He is a minor |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 12:19 PM |
#161 |
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I also said there is no bright line |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 01:08 PM |
#169 |
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Easy solution. |
classics |
Jul-25-06 12:39 AM |
#117 |
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That's fine and dandy... |
Javaman |
Jul-25-06 09:03 AM |
#118 |
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The parents are paying for the kid's treatment in Mexico. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-25-06 09:12 AM |
#119 |
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My point is: if he is ordering the kid to take cancer treatment here |
Javaman |
Jul-25-06 09:44 AM |
#121 |
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The family never mentioned money as their motive. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-25-06 10:02 AM |
#125 |
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that's not my point. If the gov't is going to order a family |
Javaman |
Jul-25-06 11:49 AM |
#155 |
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I'm fairly certain the state is paying for the treatment |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 10:40 AM |
#135 |
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Okay, that I can work with. nt |
Javaman |
Jul-25-06 11:50 AM |
#156 |
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Update: "Cherrix To Refuse Court Order For Chemotherapy" |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-25-06 09:41 AM |
#120 |
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Now now, good people... |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:20 AM |
#129 |
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No, modern medicine is not 100% right. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-25-06 10:45 AM |
#136 |
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And you feel ok... |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 10:50 AM |
#137 |
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Yes, I do. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-25-06 11:00 AM |
#142 |
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Can you explain why you see them as different? |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 11:04 AM |
#143 |
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No, I feel no need to explain this to you. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-25-06 11:14 AM |
#146 |
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You *do* owe everyone an explanation |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 11:17 AM |
#147 |
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You are the only one arguing with me & I owe you nothing. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-25-06 01:14 PM |
#171 |
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I think you do owe dmesg a response. |
Javaman |
Jul-26-06 11:57 AM |
#224 |
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Then tell dmesg for me.... |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-26-06 02:04 PM |
#233 |
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Boy, you certainly are a pleasant soul. |
Javaman |
Jul-26-06 04:01 PM |
#236 |
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Hey, I don't want to interfere with his Personal Freedom. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-27-06 07:50 AM |
#245 |
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Darwin at work! |
saddemocrat |
Jul-27-06 09:10 AM |
#247 |
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this is about the life of the child. |
ulysses |
Jul-29-06 08:37 AM |
#307 |
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I find his sickening, DU |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 11:13 AM |
#145 |
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This is why |
saddemocrat |
Jul-25-06 11:31 AM |
#150 |
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forced? |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 11:35 AM |
#152 |
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Boo! |
saddemocrat |
Jul-25-06 11:38 AM |
#153 |
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Strawman |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 11:44 AM |
#154 |
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well |
saddemocrat |
Jul-25-06 11:54 AM |
#157 |
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My criticism of industrial medicine doesn't make me "alternative" |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 12:00 PM |
#159 |
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this kid seems mature enough to make his own decisions. |
reprobate |
Jul-25-06 12:50 PM |
#166 |
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Well |
Gully Foyle |
Jul-25-06 12:03 PM |
#160 |
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That's fine, you're an ADULT. The kid is NOT. |
harpboy_ak |
Aug-11-06 02:46 AM |
#319 |
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I'm glad you got your 'remission status', saddemocrat. |
Lars39 |
Jul-25-06 12:38 PM |
#163 |
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Thank You |
saddemocrat |
Jul-25-06 12:43 PM |
#164 |
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Wow. I'm not sure 'tough' covers enough ground! |
Lars39 |
Jul-25-06 12:50 PM |
#165 |
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This was |
saddemocrat |
Jul-25-06 12:56 PM |
#167 |
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That's great that both of you are well |
Scairp |
Jul-25-06 01:09 PM |
#170 |
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Most alternative therapies are quackery |
alarimer |
Jul-25-06 01:01 PM |
#168 |
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Good for you! |
OzarkDem |
Jul-25-06 09:51 PM |
#201 |
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Is there a cancer forum? |
saddemocrat |
Jul-28-06 09:33 AM |
#297 |
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Can a judge order a family with an overweight teen... |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 01:19 PM |
#172 |
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and if a very young child is involved, would you let the parents decide |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 03:20 PM |
#181 |
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Short of actively and directly causing harm, no |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 03:36 PM |
#182 |
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denying treatment is actively causing harm |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 04:25 PM |
#184 |
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Absolutely. I agree. |
Pithlet |
Jul-25-06 07:04 PM |
#193 |
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So the kid gets no say in it at all? |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 08:45 PM |
#197 |
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the "kid" is legally a "kid" so, no, he gets no say in it |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 09:15 PM |
#198 |
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Fair enough |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 11:51 PM |
#205 |
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Parents don't have the right to condemn their own child to death. |
Pithlet |
Jul-26-06 12:51 AM |
#208 |
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I'm locking myself at this point |
dmesg |
Jul-26-06 01:17 AM |
#210 |
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I didn't mean to upset you. |
Pithlet |
Jul-26-06 01:38 AM |
#212 |
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you'll be interested in this article |
iverglas |
Jul-27-06 01:14 PM |
#260 |
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Not when it comes to matters of life and death, no. |
Pithlet |
Jul-25-06 10:00 PM |
#203 |
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Patients should always have the right to refuse treatment. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-25-06 01:28 PM |
#175 |
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any adult |
saddemocrat |
Jul-25-06 01:55 PM |
#176 |
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I disagree. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-25-06 06:12 PM |
#190 |
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so do you think the military should be able to recruit 16 and 17 year olds |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 09:18 PM |
#199 |
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Huh? How is that comparable to this? |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-26-06 09:13 AM |
#215 |
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your response does everything but answer the question |
onenote |
Jul-26-06 12:07 PM |
#226 |
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self-delete |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 03:16 PM |
#180 |
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Good decision by the judge. He probably saved the boy's life. (nt) |
w4rma |
Jul-25-06 03:11 PM |
#179 |
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Another judge has lifted the order and there will be a trial |
alarimer |
Jul-25-06 04:20 PM |
#183 |
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Yeah, because sick people can't make their own decisions |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 04:34 PM |
#185 |
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"I thought this was a 'progressive' board" |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-25-06 04:45 PM |
#187 |
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I think the parents are taking the child to a cheaper doctor to save money |
w4rma |
Jul-25-06 06:34 PM |
#191 |
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Flying him to a clinic in Mexico isn't cheaper. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-25-06 08:31 PM |
#195 |
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Do you have a single shred of evidence for that malicious claim? |
dmesg |
Jul-25-06 08:45 PM |
#196 |
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"My body, my choice" used to be a progressive ideal... (n/t) |
benEzra |
Jul-25-06 06:52 PM |
#192 |
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because children generally aren't trusted to make their own decisions |
onenote |
Jul-25-06 09:19 PM |
#200 |
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It's their right, though. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-25-06 08:30 PM |
#194 |
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A 16 year old should definitely have more say |
Pithlet |
Jul-25-06 10:28 PM |
#204 |
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perhaps he should carry along a lifelong debt as well? |
flaminbats |
Jul-26-06 12:21 AM |
#206 |
| -
Well |
Pithlet |
Jul-26-06 12:44 AM |
#207 |
| -
at least we agree on universal healthcare.. |
flaminbats |
Jul-26-06 01:47 AM |
#213 |
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I'd agree if he hadn't been through it before. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-26-06 09:22 AM |
#217 |
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The fact that he's been through it before |
Pithlet |
Jul-26-06 10:19 AM |
#221 |
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It isn't the same thing? |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-26-06 07:10 PM |
#240 |
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Nope. Not the same thing. |
Pithlet |
Jul-27-06 02:22 PM |
#262 |
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Ummm . . . I still have to disagree. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-27-06 03:47 PM |
#268 |
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I don't think one has to go to med school |
Pithlet |
Jul-27-06 04:38 PM |
#273 |
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I don't agree with the parents' choice, but they have that right. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-27-06 07:10 PM |
#278 |
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We agree on what we want the outcome to be. |
Pithlet |
Jul-27-06 07:50 PM |
#280 |
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I know some doctors who would agree until the patient is a teen. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-28-06 07:29 AM |
#289 |
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I'm confused as to what role you assign to the parents |
onenote |
Jul-28-06 09:26 AM |
#295 |
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It's that they agree. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-28-06 07:20 PM |
#299 |
| -
Actually |
saddemocrat |
Jul-27-06 05:18 PM |
#274 |
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The odds have gotten better from what I remember. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-27-06 07:00 PM |
#277 |
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From what I understand, |
saddemocrat |
Jul-26-06 12:45 PM |
#227 |
| -
Hmmmm. That's bad. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-26-06 07:13 PM |
#241 |
| -
i know a guy who beat colon cancer with organic food and coffee enemas |
mark414 |
Jul-26-06 12:55 AM |
#209 |
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it isn't any different |
BuddhaGirl |
Jul-26-06 09:23 AM |
#218 |
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Parents should have the *right* |
saddemocrat |
Jul-26-06 10:02 AM |
#219 |
| -
LOL |
BuddhaGirl |
Jul-26-06 11:05 AM |
#223 |
| -
if the kid cut an artery |
onenote |
Jul-26-06 12:01 PM |
#225 |
| -
of course ... |
saddemocrat |
Jul-26-06 12:47 PM |
#228 |
| -
Cayenne Pepper |
Show_Me _The_Truth |
Jul-27-06 10:24 PM |
#285 |
| -
Was his name Steve McQueen? |
Show_Me _The_Truth |
Jul-27-06 10:15 AM |
#252 |
| -
no, but steve mcqueen was his cousin |
mark414 |
Jul-27-06 01:31 PM |
#261 |
| -
so much for "freedom of choice" and "personal responsibility" |
rman |
Jul-26-06 09:16 AM |
#216 |
| -
*Freedom of Choice* |
saddemocrat |
Jul-26-06 10:05 AM |
#220 |
| -
Freedom of choice means... |
CanSocDem |
Jul-26-06 01:14 PM |
#232 |
| -
and |
saddemocrat |
Jul-26-06 03:05 PM |
#234 |
| -
Huh? |
DemExpat |
Jul-26-06 03:11 PM |
#235 |
| -
The person choosing |
saddemocrat |
Jul-26-06 04:52 PM |
#238 |
| -
I'm not the biggest fan of conventional medicine |
brentspeak |
Jul-26-06 12:51 PM |
#229 |
| -
my husband |
saddemocrat |
Jul-26-06 01:08 PM |
#231 |
| -
Mine too, and I agree with you. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-27-06 03:50 PM |
#269 |
| -
Many people in this thread are not |
saddemocrat |
Jul-26-06 04:55 PM |
#239 |
| -
Absolutely they will.....but especially in the case of cancers |
DemExpat |
Jul-27-06 02:13 AM |
#244 |
| -
The 16 year old |
saddemocrat |
Jul-27-06 09:08 AM |
#246 |
| -
I am very happy for your success, saddemocrat |
DemExpat |
Jul-27-06 11:22 AM |
#256 |
| -
Now, wait. Take a breath, and read the links. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-27-06 04:01 PM |
#270 |
| -
I agree |
BuddhaGirl |
Jul-27-06 09:37 AM |
#248 |
| -
just curious |
saddemocrat |
Jul-27-06 09:51 AM |
#250 |
| -
Big Pharma makes money by keeping people sick...not curing them! |
NotGivingUp |
Jul-27-06 10:09 AM |
#251 |
| -
Riiiggghhhhttttt |
Show_Me _The_Truth |
Jul-27-06 10:19 AM |
#253 |
| -
I'm assuming |
saddemocrat |
Jul-27-06 10:39 AM |
#254 |
| -
You're wrong |
saddemocrat |
Jul-27-06 10:46 AM |
#255 |
| -
I sense that you are belittling the suffering some experience through |
DemExpat |
Jul-27-06 11:56 AM |
#257 |
| -
I sense that |
saddemocrat |
Jul-27-06 12:41 PM |
#258 |
| -
Yes, I am so happy that you chose this route. |
DemExpat |
Jul-27-06 12:55 PM |
#259 |
| -
Thanks |
saddemocrat |
Jul-27-06 02:59 PM |
#266 |
| -
self-deleted |
NotGivingUp |
Jul-27-06 09:46 AM |
#249 |
| -
I wonder who is paying for this treatment? |
midnight |
Jul-27-06 02:33 PM |
#263 |
| -
And his upcoming burial. |
mike923 |
Jul-27-06 02:44 PM |
#264 |
| -
Interestingly |
saddemocrat |
Jul-27-06 02:58 PM |
#265 |
| -
Freedom of Health |
wheres_the_love |
Jul-27-06 03:17 PM |
#267 |
| -
hard situation to make an intellegent response to |
eggbeater |
Jul-27-06 04:35 PM |
#272 |
| -
Good post |
wheres_the_love |
Jul-27-06 06:18 PM |
#275 |
| -
Medical Outcomes aren't opinions |
saddemocrat |
Jul-27-06 06:42 PM |
#276 |
| -
Make sure not to oversimplify the problem |
wheres_the_love |
Jul-27-06 07:22 PM |
#279 |
| -
Well said, and welcome! |
DemExpat |
Jul-28-06 08:27 AM |
#290 |
| -
I'm not sure what you mean |
saddemocrat |
Jul-28-06 09:10 AM |
#291 |
| -
You MUST ingest our poisons for your cancer or we'll what? Kill you? n/t |
RCinBrooklyn |
Jul-28-06 09:21 AM |
#293 |
| -
feel free to decline |
saddemocrat |
Jul-28-06 09:30 AM |
#296 |
| -
Tyrell Duek dies...just one example |
saddemocrat |
Jul-28-06 09:22 AM |
#294 |
| -
I was diagnosed with Hodgkin's... |
Boomer |
Jul-28-06 08:41 PM |
#300 |
| -
It's great to see another survivor... |
saddemocrat |
Jul-28-06 11:53 PM |
#302 |
| -
However, |
humbled_opinion |
Jul-29-06 12:03 AM |
#303 |
| -
Where do we draw the line? |
Boomer |
Jul-29-06 07:52 AM |
#304 |
| -
but |
saddemocrat |
Jul-29-06 11:04 AM |
#308 |
| -
So, if someone in the government disagrees with your choice of care... |
ace2u_in_MD |
Jul-29-06 11:28 AM |
#310 |
| -
again, this is concerning the life of a child. |
ulysses |
Jul-29-06 11:39 AM |
#312 |
| -
exactly! |
saddemocrat |
Jul-29-06 06:03 PM |
#314 |
| -
another hodgkin's survivor here. |
ulysses |
Jul-29-06 08:33 AM |
#306 |
| -
WOW |
saddemocrat |
Jul-29-06 11:05 AM |
#309 |
| -
no problem! |
ulysses |
Jul-29-06 11:40 AM |
#313 |
| -
I'm curious about the "chemo is a death sentence" idea. |
MilesColtrane |
Jul-29-06 11:33 AM |
#311 |
| -
I don't know the death rate on it... |
everythingsxen |
Jul-31-06 11:10 PM |
#316 |
| -
To put it simply, chemo is poison. |
Kailassa |
Aug-01-06 08:44 AM |
#317 |
| -
" three months of chemotherapy last year made him nauseated and weak" |
Contrary1 |
Aug-10-06 03:01 PM |
#318 |
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