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Support agreements? You bet courts do.
If Mom says she'll take a new convertible automobile today in exchange for support until the kid is 18 then, you bet, that's an agreement the court is going to throw out.
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| -Judge Dismisses "Roe v. Wade for Men" Lawsuit |
LiberalHeart |
Jul-18-06 06:25 PM |
#0 |
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Won't be the end of it. |
SlipperySlope |
Jul-18-06 06:44 PM |
#1 |
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There'll be "equity in the arrangement" when men can become pregnant. |
beam me up scottie |
Jul-18-06 06:51 PM |
#2 |
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There you have it - blatant sexism |
SlipperySlope |
Jul-18-06 07:22 PM |
#6 |
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The point is that kids deserve support no matter the circumstances of |
LeftyMom |
Jul-18-06 07:28 PM |
#7 |
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Men are not walking bank accounts... |
SlipperySlope |
Jul-18-06 07:37 PM |
#8 |
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to put it bluntly--the choice was already made. |
rodeodance |
Jul-18-06 07:42 PM |
#9 |
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The list is even more horrific |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-18-06 10:21 PM |
#20 |
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I think you raise some valid points... |
Kixel |
Jul-19-06 12:19 AM |
#30 |
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My real venom is for DSS |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 01:41 AM |
#32 |
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That truly sounds like a horrible experience. |
Bassic |
Jul-19-06 09:26 AM |
#41 |
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Hear Hear! |
mainegreen |
Jul-19-06 11:14 AM |
#56 |
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So, the law should protect the male wallet first, above all else? |
Francine Frensky |
Jul-19-06 02:31 PM |
#74 |
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It's a men don't want to take responsibility for their actions bill |
superconnected |
Jul-19-06 04:28 PM |
#84 |
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Yep, you're right. |
Lindacooks |
Jul-20-06 01:08 PM |
#154 |
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A man's right to choose |
gort |
Jul-22-06 07:14 PM |
#218 |
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Bingo again, thanks superconnected... |
Triana |
Jul-22-06 11:33 PM |
#226 |
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No, the laws need to be restructured to use facts not the |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 04:29 PM |
#86 |
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You still miss the POINT |
Francine Frensky |
Jul-19-06 05:21 PM |
#97 |
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Actually I do get it |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 06:08 PM |
#106 |
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and if that $100 was gotten by fraud |
zreosumgame |
Jul-20-06 01:39 PM |
#160 |
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That is not the law in all states |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jul-19-06 07:20 PM |
#114 |
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and if the mother refuses to take the DNA test in WA state |
satireV |
Jul-20-06 12:39 PM |
#148 |
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To cut through the gordian knot here.... the real issue is child welfare. |
politicat |
Jul-21-06 02:49 PM |
#185 |
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It takes less than a week for a DNA test |
dsc |
Jul-19-06 05:35 PM |
#100 |
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Appalling story, Solo_in_MD |
bunyip |
Jul-20-06 01:26 AM |
#135 |
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This story seems a little funny |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 11:19 AM |
#142 |
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The age of conscent in most states is 16 or 17 |
dsc |
Jul-20-06 11:53 AM |
#143 |
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Wait a tic |
blogslut |
Jul-22-06 06:13 AM |
#206 |
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Lots of bitter divorced men here. nt |
zanne |
Jul-22-06 07:27 AM |
#207 |
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I'd be telling my son, "Keep it in your pants!" |
LeighAnn |
Jul-18-06 11:32 PM |
#23 |
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Reverse the genders and that's an anti-choice rant |
ThsMchneKilsFascists |
Jul-19-06 12:11 AM |
#28 |
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Makes sense either way |
LeighAnn |
Jul-19-06 08:21 AM |
#36 |
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If one holds a sexist and prejudical mindset |
ThsMchneKilsFascists |
Jul-19-06 12:42 PM |
#70 |
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How is it sexist and prejudicial |
XemaSab |
Jul-20-06 09:04 AM |
#141 |
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It may not make them both untrue. |
satireV |
Jul-20-06 12:44 PM |
#149 |
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Actually, I think they're correct. |
politicat |
Jul-21-06 02:57 PM |
#186 |
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I married into a wealthy family |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 12:01 PM |
#144 |
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Georgia is one of the few states |
greccogirl |
Jul-19-06 04:16 PM |
#78 |
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Same thing happened near me |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 12:55 AM |
#125 |
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That goes back to the ruling |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 02:55 PM |
#163 |
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hahaha poor men. always being raped by women... |
L A Woman |
Jul-19-06 04:42 PM |
#89 |
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You are so right |
AngryAmish |
Jul-20-06 12:35 PM |
#146 |
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Your last statement hits the nail on the head about this issue . . . |
toopers |
Jul-18-06 08:05 PM |
#12 |
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Nobody pays me anything. |
LeftyMom |
Jul-18-06 08:51 PM |
#16 |
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Though I should not have to tell you . . . |
toopers |
Jul-18-06 09:23 PM |
#17 |
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"be bothered" |
LeftyMom |
Jul-18-06 09:28 PM |
#18 |
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Good argument . . . |
toopers |
Jul-18-06 09:29 PM |
#19 |
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Is that the only choice? |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 03:00 PM |
#164 |
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My mom paid child support. |
superconnected |
Jul-19-06 04:34 PM |
#88 |
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AGREED! |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 03:01 PM |
#165 |
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"It's not a horrible conspiracy against fathers. " |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jul-19-06 12:15 AM |
#29 |
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My children's mother didn't. |
Llewlladdwr |
Jul-21-06 10:49 PM |
#202 |
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Please |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jul-19-06 08:27 AM |
#37 |
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Well that's the pro-lifer argument |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 12:56 AM |
#126 |
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women have to take responsibilty too |
fishwax |
Jul-20-06 01:15 AM |
#131 |
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When a couple has casual sex |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 01:29 AM |
#136 |
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they ought both be aware of the potential for pregnancy |
fishwax |
Jul-20-06 01:36 AM |
#137 |
| -
what? The woman has life-long consequences! |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jul-20-06 07:57 AM |
#138 |
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I'm pro-choice |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 01:26 PM |
#155 |
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you misunderstand |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jul-20-06 08:08 AM |
#139 |
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I just don't believe that having sex |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 01:29 PM |
#156 |
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I disagree |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 03:04 PM |
#166 |
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that is exactly it. |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jul-20-06 03:13 PM |
#167 |
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Aren't women demanding |
Yupster |
Jul-21-06 01:49 PM |
#183 |
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she is making a decision that effects her body and hers alone |
fishwax |
Jul-21-06 05:52 PM |
#189 |
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do you have a link re: the sperm donor paying child support? |
L A Woman |
Jul-19-06 04:31 PM |
#87 |
| -
If evidence is provided to show that sperm donors have been made to pay... |
satireV |
Jul-20-06 12:51 PM |
#150 |
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Sitll waiting for your facts!!! |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 03:16 PM |
#169 |
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Here's an article about California |
Yupster |
Jul-21-06 07:49 PM |
#194 |
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You actually disavow your theory |
trixie |
Jul-22-06 09:38 AM |
#208 |
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These were examples of men |
Yupster |
Jul-22-06 11:36 AM |
#212 |
| -
children involved in marriage is a whole different ball of wax |
trixie |
Jul-22-06 03:30 PM |
#215 |
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I'll go with RFK |
Yupster |
Jul-22-06 09:10 PM |
#220 |
| -
simple google search |
Centered |
Jul-23-06 05:52 PM |
#244 |
| -
Oh come on. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-06 06:22 PM |
#109 |
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I agree completely |
AngryAmish |
Jul-20-06 12:39 PM |
#147 |
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Glad you put your picture on your post - I'll get sex elsewhere n/t |
Biernuts |
Jul-21-06 12:59 PM |
#182 |
| -
When cops viciously murder an innocent black man... |
Nabeshin |
Jul-24-06 07:42 AM |
#252 |
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Uh, if a man is passed out because of alcohol, chances are |
Lindacooks |
Jul-20-06 01:06 PM |
#153 |
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DING DING DING! Beam Me Up Scottie, you're our grand prize winner! |
rocknation |
Jul-18-06 11:45 PM |
#24 |
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Thanks, but according to the whiners, I'm being "sexist" for saying so. |
beam me up scottie |
Jul-19-06 05:47 AM |
#33 |
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does not appear to be implying ... |
LanternWaste |
Jul-19-06 12:56 PM |
#71 |
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don't you know anything, Beam Me Up Scottie???? |
L A Woman |
Jul-19-06 04:50 PM |
#92 |
| -
oh, I guess |
darboy |
Jul-22-06 09:59 PM |
#221 |
| -
what responsibility is it that women are foresaking? |
fishwax |
Jul-22-06 11:51 PM |
#229 |
| -
when you say |
darboy |
Jul-23-06 12:00 AM |
#233 |
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women DO have to be responsible for their actions. Nature forces them to |
fishwax |
Jul-23-06 12:10 AM |
#235 |
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nothing to disagree with |
darboy |
Jul-23-06 12:11 AM |
#236 |
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no, I don't think a man can morally be forced to be a parent |
fishwax |
Jul-23-06 01:01 AM |
#242 |
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I have one kid |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 12:58 AM |
#127 |
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As long as you agree those are enough choices |
Yupster |
Jul-21-06 07:26 PM |
#191 |
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those are also the only choices a woman has |
fishwax |
Jul-21-06 07:50 PM |
#195 |
| -
No but abortion prevents parenthood |
Yupster |
Jul-21-06 08:05 PM |
#196 |
| -
but the simple fact of parenthood doesn't effect men |
fishwax |
Jul-21-06 11:26 PM |
#204 |
| -
Self-delete |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-22-06 09:00 PM |
#219 |
| -
You obviously do not understand support laws |
satireV |
Jul-20-06 12:24 PM |
#145 |
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This is when the child is born in a marriage |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 03:15 PM |
#168 |
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which states are these, that have laws saying whoever the mother says |
fishwax |
Jul-20-06 11:17 PM |
#180 |
| -
Bingo - thank you beam me up scottie! (n/t) |
Triana |
Jul-22-06 11:28 PM |
#224 |
| -
I don't think men should keep their legs shut.... |
notadmblnd |
Jul-18-06 06:53 PM |
#3 |
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Once the baby is born, men have lots of options |
wellstone dem |
Jul-18-06 06:57 PM |
#4 |
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very well said! |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-18-06 07:06 PM |
#5 |
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Abso-freakin-lutely |
LuckyTheDog |
Jul-18-06 11:07 PM |
#22 |
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But all those choices |
Yupster |
Jul-21-06 07:31 PM |
#192 |
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"Men have no such spectrum of choice" ?? |
depakid |
Jul-18-06 07:51 PM |
#10 |
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their is a female condom that can be used |
RawMaterials |
Jul-18-06 08:37 PM |
#15 |
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That's why BOTH partners should use ALWAYS birth control |
rocknation |
Jul-19-06 10:37 AM |
#47 |
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actually I have never been in danger of becoming a parent from |
dsc |
Jul-19-06 10:46 AM |
#49 |
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I meant the kind of sex that can RESULT in a pregnancy, of course! |
rocknation |
Jul-19-06 10:50 AM |
#50 |
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I know I am just being jerky |
dsc |
Jul-19-06 10:57 AM |
#52 |
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That's why homosexuals should think twice about . . . . |
satireV |
Jul-20-06 12:54 PM |
#151 |
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any child I have would end up being meticulously planned |
dsc |
Jul-20-06 01:34 PM |
#158 |
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Sorry heterosexuals have such problems with marriage, but |
wiley |
Jul-23-06 01:38 PM |
#243 |
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Condom didn't work for me |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 01:00 AM |
#128 |
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so sue the condom make not the DNA donater n/m |
RawMaterials |
Jul-23-06 09:10 PM |
#245 |
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There never was a beginning to it. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jul-18-06 07:52 PM |
#11 |
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Name removed |
Jul-18-06 08:23 PM |
#13 |
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LOL. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jul-18-06 10:23 PM |
#21 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-18-06 08:35 PM |
#14 |
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we all know women who want kids for tax breaks? |
fishwax |
Jul-19-06 12:10 AM |
#27 |
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I actually know a couple |
petersond |
Jul-19-06 10:40 PM |
#122 |
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thank heavens indeed |
fishwax |
Jul-20-06 01:08 AM |
#129 |
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"we all know women out thier who want the kids for tax brakes or ..." |
redqueen |
Jul-19-06 11:16 AM |
#57 |
| -
yeah, what an insane comment? |
fishwax |
Jul-19-06 09:02 PM |
#118 |
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You're confusing two separate issues. |
bezdomny |
Jul-19-06 12:58 AM |
#31 |
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Exactly! n/t |
redqueen |
Jul-19-06 11:17 AM |
#58 |
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So you penalize a man and reward the mother for dishonesty |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 11:24 AM |
#61 |
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your issues are quite separate from the case in the OP |
fishwax |
Jul-19-06 09:15 PM |
#119 |
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No it's also a financial problem. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-19-06 04:12 PM |
#77 |
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Bullshit, this ruling was the only correct and just one...... |
DCCyclone |
Jul-19-06 09:06 AM |
#39 |
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My sister has done both combat support and pregnancy.... |
politicat |
Jul-21-06 03:07 PM |
#187 |
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I agree 100%, Slippery. |
closeupready |
Jul-19-06 09:17 AM |
#40 |
| -
Good for the judge... It is laughable. |
CornField |
Jul-18-06 11:47 PM |
#25 |
| -
Moral of the story; fraud is good! |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jul-19-06 12:06 AM |
#26 |
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Once more, with feeling... |
jberryhill |
Jul-19-06 06:52 AM |
#34 |
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Actually its not about rights of the children or the adults involved |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 11:04 AM |
#54 |
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No sympathy for you from this support-paying father |
jberryhill |
Jul-19-06 12:00 PM |
#63 |
| -
The law wasn't wrongly applied in this case |
dsc |
Jul-19-06 12:24 PM |
#65 |
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First off: |
jberryhill |
Jul-19-06 12:38 PM |
#68 |
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The contract thing he is referring to is sperm donation (I think) |
dsc |
Jul-19-06 01:07 PM |
#72 |
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Some states may have exception for this... |
jberryhill |
Jul-19-06 05:58 PM |
#104 |
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I am not saying end child support |
dsc |
Jul-19-06 06:19 PM |
#108 |
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What makes you believe.... |
jberryhill |
Jul-19-06 07:13 PM |
#112 |
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and before the test is money collected or not? |
dsc |
Jul-19-06 07:27 PM |
#115 |
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You know... you can look this stuff up on the internets... |
jberryhill |
Jul-19-06 07:44 PM |
#116 |
| -
that isn't what I asked |
dsc |
Jul-19-06 08:48 PM |
#117 |
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Actually I was a victim of fraud and extortion |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 02:35 PM |
#75 |
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I'm sorry |
greccogirl |
Jul-19-06 04:23 PM |
#80 |
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There was a show on tv similar to your case |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 01:09 AM |
#130 |
| -
maybe missed something |
blueatheart |
Jul-22-06 12:57 AM |
#205 |
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And the current law is wrong. |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 02:20 PM |
#73 |
| -
Thank God |
greccogirl |
Jul-19-06 04:24 PM |
#81 |
| -
Those sorts of details are matters of state law... |
jberryhill |
Jul-19-06 05:33 PM |
#99 |
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I do not support opting out after the fact |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 06:15 PM |
#107 |
| -
Have you done a 50-state survey of laws on this? |
jberryhill |
Jul-19-06 07:18 PM |
#113 |
| -
John... what are the consequences for not providing a DNA sample |
satireV |
Jul-20-06 01:03 PM |
#152 |
| -
Why would they need a sample from her? |
dsc |
Jul-20-06 01:35 PM |
#159 |
| -
ahhhh the avoidance response |
satireV |
Jul-20-06 02:19 PM |
#161 |
| -
no she doesn't |
dsc |
Jul-20-06 02:34 PM |
#162 |
| -
Let's make this 100% clear |
satireV |
Jul-20-06 04:31 PM |
#175 |
| -
I admit to not being a molecular biologist |
dsc |
Jul-20-06 04:36 PM |
#177 |
| -
I'd be more interested |
jberryhill |
Jul-20-06 08:12 PM |
#178 |
| -
Exactly. |
greccogirl |
Jul-19-06 04:21 PM |
#79 |
| -
see my response to your post |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 03:26 PM |
#170 |
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Child support is for the benefit of the child. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-19-06 07:49 AM |
#35 |
| -
Courts override such agreements with regularity |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 11:05 AM |
#55 |
| -
What agreements? |
jberryhill |
Jul-19-06 12:41 PM |
#69 |
| -
both men and women have a choice |
fishwax |
Jul-19-06 08:38 AM |
#38 |
| -
The woman now has control over a huge part |
Threedifferentones |
Jul-19-06 05:04 PM |
#95 |
| -
he controls his own life if he controls his zipper |
fishwax |
Jul-19-06 06:31 PM |
#110 |
| -
My suggestion to make the system more fair |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 01:16 AM |
#132 |
| -
This is where you are sooo wrong |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 03:34 PM |
#171 |
| -
Ummm |
Threedifferentones |
Jul-20-06 04:27 PM |
#174 |
| -
It's not fair to the child, though. |
Pithlet |
Jul-21-06 08:17 PM |
#198 |
| -
I believe the child has a right to suport, but |
Yupster |
Jul-21-06 08:56 PM |
#200 |
| -
Some kids get more than others, whether their parents are together |
Pithlet |
Jul-21-06 09:06 PM |
#201 |
| -
Oh just read it again |
trixie |
Jul-22-06 11:04 AM |
#211 |
| -
iirc, Tom (Domino's) Monaghan and his Thomas More Law Center funded this |
Bozita |
Jul-19-06 09:37 AM |
#42 |
| -
Reverse sexism is not a solution. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-19-06 09:54 AM |
#43 |
| -
I can't believe how sexist the women on this site are. It's not always the |
MJDuncan1982 |
Jul-19-06 10:09 AM |
#44 |
| -
Come on yourself |
Lilith Velkor |
Jul-19-06 12:34 PM |
#67 |
| -
bwahaha! |
fishwax |
Jul-19-06 09:34 PM |
#120 |
| -
Hey |
greccogirl |
Jul-19-06 04:26 PM |
#83 |
| -
You can't believe it and you have |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 01:18 AM |
#133 |
| -
While I don't have much sypmapthy for this particular man |
dsc |
Jul-19-06 10:15 AM |
#45 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-19-06 10:28 AM |
#46 |
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Being careful about who to screw and always using birth control |
rocknation |
Jul-19-06 10:46 AM |
#48 |
| -
Woen too, but |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 01:31 PM |
#157 |
| -
Most women know they have to be careful. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-19-06 10:50 AM |
#51 |
| -
Then you should be careful not to have a child |
KingFlorez |
Jul-19-06 10:59 AM |
#53 |
| -
Sometime they come after you even if you did not have a thing to |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 11:29 AM |
#62 |
| -
So which paper ran your story? |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 03:37 PM |
#172 |
| -
DNA testing before a child support jugment? Sure. |
redqueen |
Jul-19-06 11:19 AM |
#59 |
| -
It would be a start |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-19-06 03:53 PM |
#76 |
| -
I guess it depends on the state |
union_maid |
Jul-19-06 05:54 PM |
#103 |
| -
Interesting....Just read about Pro-Lifers buying up Abortion Clinics! |
Tight_rope |
Jul-19-06 11:21 AM |
#60 |
| -
Actually they already are |
MessiahRp |
Jul-19-06 04:52 PM |
#93 |
| -
How does paternity law compare with Europe's? |
closeupready |
Jul-19-06 12:12 PM |
#64 |
| -
A Very Simple Solution To This Problem |
Yavin4 |
Jul-19-06 12:27 PM |
#66 |
| -
Or god for bid wear a condom. |
superconnected |
Jul-19-06 04:25 PM |
#82 |
| -
I'm not trying to lob a bomb but... |
MessiahRp |
Jul-19-06 04:59 PM |
#94 |
| -
how is it that women are pushing all the responsibility onto a man? |
fishwax |
Jul-19-06 09:40 PM |
#121 |
| -
no offense but.... |
trixie |
Jul-22-06 03:35 PM |
#217 |
| -
Condom is good advice |
Yupster |
Jul-20-06 01:21 AM |
#134 |
| -
Problem Solved? |
greccogirl |
Jul-19-06 04:28 PM |
#85 |
| -
Yeah!!! LOL.. |
PansophicOne |
Jul-19-06 06:39 PM |
#111 |
| -
What?!? Prostitutes can't get pregnant? |
Llewlladdwr |
Jul-21-06 11:23 PM |
#203 |
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I'm female and I say that men sometimes do get the short end of the |
NotGivingUp |
Jul-19-06 04:42 PM |
#90 |
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Is it really that bad for the men? |
treestar |
Jul-19-06 04:47 PM |
#91 |
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Women are the primary parents...like it or not...here's the solution: |
L A Woman |
Jul-19-06 05:09 PM |
#96 |
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The problem is that a child needs looking after |
Francine Frensky |
Jul-19-06 05:30 PM |
#98 |
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Except when she isn't. |
vogonjiltz |
Jul-19-06 05:36 PM |
#101 |
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I don't agree. If a man has sex and it results in a pregnancy, he is |
Sapere aude |
Jul-19-06 05:38 PM |
#102 |
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Err, I don't disagree. |
vogonjiltz |
Jul-19-06 06:05 PM |
#105 |
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I have seen some pretty crappy mothers.... |
jerry611 |
Jul-19-06 11:24 PM |
#123 |
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Now that is something I can get on board with |
trixie |
Jul-20-06 03:42 PM |
#173 |
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I think the issue is of true control |
MissMillie |
Jul-20-06 08:15 AM |
#140 |
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Yep |
atomicdawg38 |
Jul-19-06 11:33 PM |
#124 |
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if you don't want to father a kid |
dwickham |
Jul-20-06 04:33 PM |
#176 |
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And if a woman doesn't want to have a kid |
Yupster |
Jul-21-06 01:51 PM |
#184 |
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go back and read the original post |
dwickham |
Jul-22-06 03:18 PM |
#214 |
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it doesn't |
darboy |
Jul-22-06 10:22 PM |
#222 |
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A child shouldn't have to be forced to give up |
Pithlet |
Jul-22-06 11:17 PM |
#223 |
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well |
darboy |
Jul-22-06 11:32 PM |
#225 |
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You're ignoring the child. |
Pithlet |
Jul-22-06 11:43 PM |
#228 |
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but the woman would know that |
darboy |
Jul-22-06 11:57 PM |
#231 |
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So, the woman knows that |
Pithlet |
Jul-23-06 12:13 AM |
#237 |
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do you believe that people should be forced to be parents? |
darboy |
Jul-23-06 12:14 AM |
#238 |
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People aren't forced to become parents. |
Pithlet |
Jul-23-06 12:33 AM |
#239 |
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women ARE forced (by this little thing called biology) to be responsible |
fishwax |
Jul-22-06 11:59 PM |
#232 |
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that is true |
darboy |
Jul-23-06 12:03 AM |
#234 |
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I'm not sure that solution is workable, and I don't think it's ideal |
fishwax |
Jul-23-06 12:43 AM |
#240 |
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I will say that I do think it sucks |
Pithlet |
Jul-23-06 12:51 AM |
#241 |
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men aren't forced to become parents |
fishwax |
Jul-22-06 11:54 PM |
#230 |
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Hmm |
ismnotwasm |
Jul-20-06 08:31 PM |
#179 |
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Beautiful post! You nailed it. |
superconnected |
Jul-21-06 12:48 PM |
#181 |
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It is ALWAYS about... |
VelmaD |
Jul-21-06 04:20 PM |
#188 |
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Men need to learn to control themselves... |
Triana |
Jul-22-06 11:40 PM |
#227 |
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I haven't seen anyone in these 180 posts advocate |
Yupster |
Jul-21-06 07:43 PM |
#193 |
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agree and both men and women |
RawMaterials |
Jul-23-06 09:12 PM |
#246 |
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DOUBLE POST |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-24-06 07:31 AM |
#249 |
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Since when does a monthly child support payment--- |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-24-06 07:32 AM |
#250 |
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18 years of payments |
RawMaterials |
Jul-25-06 08:10 PM |
#259 |
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Guys, if you have some paranoia about a condom breaking |
geniph |
Jul-21-06 06:30 PM |
#190 |
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not true it just dops to 1-100 |
RawMaterials |
Jul-23-06 09:15 PM |
#247 |
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The headlines sucks. It should be "Deadbeat Dad lawsuit". |
Seabiscuit |
Jul-21-06 08:10 PM |
#197 |
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Insulting labels shouldn't be used |
Yupster |
Jul-21-06 08:31 PM |
#199 |
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The suit was an attack on the state child support law. |
Seabiscuit |
Jul-22-06 10:39 AM |
#209 |
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About that headline... |
LiberalHeart |
Jul-22-06 10:51 AM |
#210 |
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Maybe if we'd all stop using the insulting term |
Yupster |
Jul-22-06 11:38 AM |
#213 |
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damn activist judges... |
BlueCollar |
Jul-22-06 03:31 PM |
#216 |
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Normally I avoid wedge issues like this... or I suggest a compromise |
The Animator |
Jul-23-06 11:59 PM |
#248 |
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Please memorize this statement & repeat it to every woman you meet. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-24-06 07:38 AM |
#251 |
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I assure you every woman who ends up having sex with me |
The Animator |
Jul-24-06 07:57 AM |
#253 |
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So--after she "ends up" having sex with you... |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-24-06 08:12 AM |
#255 |
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People keep forgetting that Sex has Consequences.... |
bleedingheart |
Jul-24-06 08:08 AM |
#254 |
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When children become a trap, then it's a problem. |
The Animator |
Jul-24-06 08:45 AM |
#256 |
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No contraceptive is 100% effective. |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-24-06 02:10 PM |
#258 |
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This thread will never die, will it? nt |
Marie26 |
Jul-24-06 08:46 AM |
#257 |
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Devils advocate |
Alacrat |
Jul-25-06 10:30 PM |
#260 |
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I agree that no matter how hard you try |
Yupster |
Jul-25-06 11:17 PM |
#261 |
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"A woman's decision making power" |
Pithlet |
Jul-26-06 12:26 AM |
#262 |
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