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Sun Jul-16-06 09:24 PM
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| 21. That saying has more to it than is usually thought about |
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http://www.flick.com/~liralen/faith/cheek.html Let's add a little history. In Jesus' time, the left hand was unclean, used for things that toilet paper is used for today, it wasn't used for much of anything else, if it could be helped. Therefore, in order for someone to have gotten hit on the right cheek by someone facing them, the striker would have had to have used the back of the hand.
A back of the hand blow was a blow that signified the punishment of a child, a woman, or a slave, all of which, in that era and time, were second class citizens. Lower than the lowest man of that time. To be hit that way implied an insult, a degradation.
To turn the other cheek, then, was an implied demand for acknowlegement of equalness. To get hit on the left cheek with the right hand required, first, that the striker acknowledge the striken as something that wasn't of a lower class, wasn't dirt beneath his heels but a real man. Second, it does imply that one shouldn't return bad for bad, violence for violence.
In many ways, it's a lesson of assertiveness versus agressiveness. It is not a lesson that advocates passivity in the face of abuse. Protect your own rights and priviledges without destroying anothers. It's a good balance, too many people can be badly agressive, destroying other people's peace, property or rights in the pursuit of their own. That's wrong. Assertiveness is the protection of your own without hurting anyone else.
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| -Iran’s Supreme Leader says Israel is “satanic and cancerous” |
democratic |
Jul-16-06 08:22 PM |
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resolution 1559 |
still_one |
Jul-16-06 08:25 PM |
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Let's do UN Resolution 242 first! |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-16-06 09:38 PM |
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LOL |
saigon68 |
Jul-16-06 09:56 PM |
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interesting since the thread was about Iran and Hezbolah comments |
still_one |
Jul-16-06 11:16 PM |
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bad translation.... he meant Cheney |
hlthe2b |
Jul-16-06 08:26 PM |
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That boy really knows how to "smooth the waters". I wish to hell |
ladjf |
Jul-16-06 08:26 PM |
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The Ayatollah does not speak for all Muslims |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 08:30 PM |
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even the Sunni or the Shia do not agree |
still_one |
Jul-16-06 08:31 PM |
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not to mention the Sufi |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 08:34 PM |
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I prefer Rodney Kings philosophy: |
still_one |
Jul-16-06 08:39 PM |
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Don't Forget The Kharmathians, Or Kharijites |
wellst0nev0ter |
Jul-17-06 03:04 AM |
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Jul-16-06 08:35 PM |
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and Christians are told to turn the other check |
still_one |
Jul-16-06 08:42 PM |
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That saying has more to it than is usually thought about |
CatholicEdHead |
Jul-16-06 09:24 PM |
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It has to do with NON-VIOLENT resistence |
still_one |
Jul-16-06 11:35 PM |
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Thank you for sharing that. |
PsychoDad |
Jul-17-06 05:27 AM |
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Not by Sufi definition |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 08:44 PM |
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No. |
PsychoDad |
Jul-17-06 05:22 AM |
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. |
democratic |
Jul-16-06 08:38 PM |
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Call him a non-Muslim, or apostate. |
igil |
Jul-16-06 09:15 PM |
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Interesting that you would say Muslims proselytize |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-17-06 06:28 AM |
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This is the continuing blowback from our overthrow of Mossadegh's |
struggle4progress |
Jul-16-06 08:47 PM |
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Those who don't learn from history |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-06 08:48 PM |
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This is the terrorism Bush/Cheney have always wished for. Now that |
goforit |
Jul-16-06 09:01 PM |
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Jul-16-06 08:57 PM |
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You have not read ANY of the reasoned posts in this |
AnOhioan |
Jul-16-06 09:00 PM |
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I don't think it's over until |
Mr Friendly |
Jul-16-06 09:15 PM |
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Wow, I thought that was the goal of the Religious Right in *our* country. |
missb |
Jul-16-06 09:16 PM |
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Nobody wins in this situation |
AnOhioan |
Jul-16-06 09:19 PM |
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So how DO we defeat it? |
Nevernose |
Jul-16-06 09:35 PM |
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Trouble is, war has worked for some people |
daleo |
Jul-16-06 09:44 PM |
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Are you suggesting a healthy dose of anarcho-socialism? |
Nevernose |
Jul-16-06 09:50 PM |
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I don't really think anarchism is workable |
daleo |
Jul-16-06 09:59 PM |
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Okay, maybe in this case I AM suggesting anarcho-socialism |
Nevernose |
Jul-16-06 11:50 PM |
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Israel has not given back the Golan! |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-16-06 10:05 PM |
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Check your internal bias meter. |
Nevernose |
Jul-16-06 11:32 PM |
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Well, for starters..... |
AnOhioan |
Jul-16-06 10:11 PM |
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Minds with religion at the forefront |
MoseyWalker |
Jul-16-06 10:49 PM |
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Great observation |
Patchuli |
Jul-17-06 01:20 AM |
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The operative words in your quote were "in THIS dealing of the cards." |
Nevernose |
Jul-16-06 11:16 PM |
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Let me say first off... |
AnOhioan |
Jul-16-06 11:56 PM |
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Actually, there is a lot of evidence that poverty does not cause |
madeline_con |
Jul-17-06 03:20 AM |
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Bin Laden is just a cowardly prick though... |
afrosia |
Jul-17-06 03:40 AM |
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A prick with access to a lot of cash, nonetheless. n/t |
madeline_con |
Jul-18-06 02:51 PM |
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People have to be pragmatic and bewilling to deal, compromise |
barb162 |
Jul-16-06 11:05 PM |
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They also eat children. |
MrRobotsHolyOrders |
Jul-17-06 03:53 AM |
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Khamenei is a blowhard who is an infectious tumour |
barb162 |
Jul-17-06 12:05 AM |
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The real infectious tumor in the Islamic world: |
JackNewtown |
Jul-17-06 12:13 AM |
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gotta agree with you there, friend |
barb162 |
Jul-17-06 12:24 AM |
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and welcome to DU |
barb162 |
Jul-17-06 12:25 AM |
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Both Jewish and Muslim extremists are equally bad and unfortunately |
leesa |
Jul-17-06 08:33 AM |
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