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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #20
47. you never heard of the hite report?
there used to be an active study of sexology and sexual politics in the 1970s, no one ever disputed that at least 50 percent of married american men cheat, i've never seen a study lower altho it's true it doesn't seem a popular area of study these days

but let's be honest w. ourselves, that's the 50 percent that admits to it, the rest conveniently forgets the occasional "slips"

the infidelity rate among american women is also quite high

don't even pretend you don't know what i'm talking abt, no one is kidding anyone, we all know what the world is

this is not the church social, we don't have to pretend that grown men and women never fool around

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  -Circumcision may stop millions of HIV deaths: study deadparrot  Jul-10-06 11:49 PM   #0 
  - How many would be infected by non-sterile operations?  LeftyMom   Jul-10-06 11:55 PM   #1 
  - but it HAS panned out, hasn't it?  pitohui   Jul-11-06 12:04 AM   #3 
  - We don't have a problem with men raping young girls as a "cure"  LeftyMom   Jul-11-06 12:14 AM   #5 
  - sorry i don't believe 1/4 kenyan men are rapists  pitohui   Jul-11-06 06:34 PM   #49 
  - It's a hygiene issue, nothing to do with the circumcision  Viva_La_Revolution   Jul-11-06 12:16 AM   #6 
  - Hygiene?  Jean Louise Finch   Jul-11-06 03:27 AM   #23 
  - It probably does  Sgent   Jul-12-06 03:51 AM   #87 
  - Bathing in Urine?  heliarc   Jul-12-06 03:10 PM   #107 
     - no need to be snippy, it's true  Viva_La_Revolution   Jul-12-06 07:14 PM   #127 
     - Who said anything  Sgent   Jul-13-06 05:27 AM   #165 
     - He didn't say to bath in URINE  LostinVA   Jul-13-06 07:14 AM   #167 
        - Wow Democrats need to lighten up  heliarc   Jul-13-06 01:20 PM   #182 
           - I am "lightened" up  LostinVA   Jul-13-06 01:42 PM   #183 
           - I find that as a group we take things very literally...  heliarc   Jul-14-06 03:51 AM   #204 
           - "Democrats need to lighten up"?  janesez   Jul-13-06 03:30 PM   #185 
              - I'm a registered democrat.  heliarc   Jul-14-06 03:56 AM   #205 
  - The foreskin is very sensitive...  joshcryer   Jul-12-06 06:42 PM   #125 
     - I love this post.  heliarc   Jul-14-06 04:00 AM   #206 
  - I have a feeling you're right.  HuckleB   Jul-12-06 02:16 PM   #103 
  - Not "nothing" to do with circumcision...  joshcryer   Jul-12-06 06:41 PM   #124 
  - WTF? Link, please?  Common Sense Party   Jul-11-06 01:31 AM   #20 
  - The rate of divorce is 50%  wicket   Jul-11-06 08:01 AM   #31 
  - I don't even believe the rate of divorce is 50%. Seems way too high.  Common Sense Party   Jul-11-06 04:24 PM   #41 
  - so you believe personal anecdote rather than statistics?  pitohui   Jul-11-06 06:33 PM   #48 
  - All of you need to do a little research apparently...  teknomanzer   Jul-11-06 06:57 PM   #57 
  - according to this site, the answer is not that clear  spooky3   Jul-12-06 08:14 AM   #91 
  - The statistic actually is in dispute.  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 04:39 AM   #158 
  - One of two marriages fail....Which means one out of two last for life  happyslug   Jul-12-06 12:53 AM   #79 
     - Very interesting, and what I suspected. Thanks for info. nt  Common Sense Party   Jul-13-06 01:34 AM   #146 
  - I think the rate of divorce is closer to 40%, much less for some  Common Sense Party   Jul-12-06 12:35 AM   #77 
  - you never heard of the hite report?  pitohui   Jul-11-06 06:29 PM   #47 
     - Sounds like bullshit to me.  Common Sense Party   Jul-11-06 07:57 PM   #61 
     - I would say it's much, much lower than 50%.  Common Sense Party   Jul-12-06 12:41 AM   #78 
     - Bullshit. All men cheat. I'm guessing 50% is way too low. nt  janesez   Jul-13-06 09:49 AM   #173 
        - Bullshit to you too  heliarc   Jul-13-06 12:22 PM   #177 
        - I am neither stupid nor bitter.  janesez   Jul-13-06 03:28 PM   #184 
           - I'm familiar with the DU rules as well  Umbram   Jul-13-06 08:06 PM   #197 
           - You began this with cursing... so don't harp on the rules.  heliarc   Jul-14-06 03:47 AM   #203 
        - define 'cheat'  maxsolomon   Jul-13-06 05:46 PM   #190 
     - On the contrary  heliarc   Jul-12-06 03:15 PM   #108 
  - European, Australian and Asian men are uncut  varun   Jul-11-06 06:09 AM   #24 
     - Don't mention that-- Makes too much sense!  cprise   Jul-11-06 08:02 AM   #32 
     - Asia's HIV numbers are skyrocketting  NickB79   Jul-11-06 02:07 PM   #37 
     - ok i have heard that theory of the CCR5 gene as well  pitohui   Jul-11-06 06:36 PM   #50 
     - Asians in US have the lowest HIV rates  varun   Jul-11-06 08:07 PM   #63 
     - I specified Asians, not Asian-Americans  NickB79   Jul-11-06 08:20 PM   #65 
     - A very weak-to-nonexistant case  cprise   Jul-11-06 10:19 PM   #75 
        - So do people with big dicks enjoy sex more than people with small ones?  merwin   Jul-12-06 07:48 PM   #133 
           - quite the opposite  varun   Jul-13-06 08:14 AM   #171 
     - But most new case of HIV in the US are Drug related (Dirty Needles).  happyslug   Jul-12-06 07:04 AM   #89 
        - absolutely  pitohui   Jul-12-06 03:40 PM   #110 
     - Do we have data comparing  varun   Jul-11-06 08:45 PM   #70 
     - European and Australian men have access to clean water.  joshcryer   Jul-12-06 06:38 PM   #123 
        - Monogamy is highly-regarded in Asia?  redqueen   Jul-13-06 04:55 PM   #188 
           - The vast majority of the Chinese population lives no where near...  joshcryer   Jul-13-06 08:00 PM   #196 
              - I was thinking more of Japan. n/t  redqueen   Jul-14-06 09:35 AM   #207 
  - Hmmm  Scairp   Jul-13-06 02:21 AM   #151 
  - anything that helps is a good idea. it's hard for the far-right to attack  truthisfreedom   Jul-11-06 12:02 AM   #2 
  - I wouldn't put it past them n/t  varkam   Jul-11-06 12:14 AM   #4 
  - Frankly  laptoprepairguy   Jul-11-06 10:42 PM   #76 
  - It's a truly disgusting "study", and questionable at that  silverojo   Jul-11-06 12:19 AM   #7 
  - oh goodness  qazplm   Jul-11-06 12:25 AM   #8 
  - Male mutilation was started to stop the use of foreskin for mastubation  joefree1   Jul-11-06 07:28 AM   #28 
  - as the mother of 3 circumcised boys, yes it is mutilation  Viva_La_Revolution   Jul-12-06 02:30 AM   #84 
     - LOL! n/t  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 05:11 AM   #162 
        - just turned 20  Viva_La_Revolution   Jul-13-06 07:24 AM   #170 
           - That's wonderful.  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 12:48 PM   #178 
  - This is from the World Health Organization  NickB79   Jul-11-06 12:27 AM   #9 
  - There seems to be an endless number of people who look at these  merwin   Jul-11-06 12:38 AM   #13 
  - that's what i thought as well  pitohui   Jul-11-06 06:37 PM   #51 
  - Will Google pass this search info along to Agent Smith?  Nutmegger   Jul-11-06 12:36 AM   #11 
  - Your definition of propaganda: I don't like your conclusions  robcon   Jul-11-06 06:49 AM   #26 
  - you are fighting a losing battle with these circ supporters.  fleabert   Jul-12-06 10:42 PM   #144 
  - Parents do a lot of things to children without their consent.  merwin   Jul-13-06 03:23 AM   #152 
     - i think we have gone round and round on this before.  fleabert   Jul-13-06 04:08 PM   #186 
        - Nice selective caring :-)  merwin   Jul-13-06 05:54 PM   #191 
           - did you click on the link?  fleabert   Jul-14-06 12:12 AM   #202 
  - This is a new, long term, very large scale, controlled study,  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 04:51 AM   #159 
  - "Dry Sex" compounds the problem...  Bigmack   Jul-11-06 12:34 AM   #10 
  - dry sex  shanti   Jul-11-06 12:51 AM   #16 
  - I don't see how it could be enjoyable by any stretch  B3Nut   Jul-11-06 02:04 PM   #36 
  - I had no idea!  Viva_La_Revolution   Jul-12-06 02:52 AM   #85 
  - Some Info  queerart   Jul-11-06 12:38 AM   #12 
  - Very "Fair and balanced" website.  merwin   Jul-11-06 12:41 AM   #14 
  - I'm Guessing Something Is Only Fair And Balanced.......  queerart   Jul-11-06 12:46 AM   #15 
  - An informational website should be either non-biased, or clearly state  merwin   Jul-11-06 01:01 AM   #17 
     - it IS non-biased -. there is NO good reason for Circumcision  anotherdrew   Jul-11-06 06:58 PM   #58 
        - Good reason: circumcision reduces HIV exposure  NickB79   Jul-11-06 08:09 PM   #64 
        - Agreed!  Megahurtz   Jul-11-06 08:24 PM   #66 
        - Actually, the medical reason for it is that in places where people do not  merwin   Jul-12-06 02:12 AM   #83 
           - I can clean under my foreskin with a simple procedure not requiring water  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-12-06 01:37 PM   #101 
              - Lots of men won't use condoms  AngryAmish   Jul-12-06 02:19 PM   #105 
              - So your argument is cut them up so they don't have to remember condoms?  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-12-06 04:23 PM   #114 
                 - If you must know  AngryAmish   Jul-13-06 08:21 AM   #172 
              - you dont even need spit  varun   Jul-12-06 03:05 PM   #106 
              - Hahaha I know about that too, but didn't mention it  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-12-06 04:20 PM   #113 
              - Like most sensation, it is 90% mental, 10% physical.  merwin   Jul-12-06 07:33 PM   #128 
              - Have you gone a month without bathing in clean running water?  joshcryer   Jul-12-06 07:57 PM   #135 
              - No, but I can spit every day of the month  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-12-06 08:11 PM   #139 
                 - You say you "can" but in practice you don't.  joshcryer   Jul-12-06 10:39 PM   #142 
                    - You don't have to believe me when I tell you my dick is always clean  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-13-06 01:57 AM   #147 
                       - I didn't say you didn't.  joshcryer   Jul-13-06 07:53 PM   #193 
              - Saliva isn't even close to being sterile  LostinVA   Jul-13-06 07:15 AM   #168 
              - They are NOT promoting circ OVER condoms. They're promoting BOTH  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 12:54 PM   #180 
        - This research shows that condoms PLUS circumcisions is MORE effective  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 12:56 PM   #181 
  - Hahaha you must work for Fox News, right?  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-12-06 01:29 PM   #100 
  - The info on that site is outdated and doesn't take into account  pnwmom   Jul-11-06 01:12 AM   #18 
  - The stats are interesting...  MrPrax   Jul-11-06 01:17 AM   #19 
  - Let's see the RW take on that!  applegrove   Jul-11-06 02:36 AM   #21 
  - Oh they would love it!  Megahurtz   Jul-11-06 08:29 PM   #67 
     - If it is healthy..it is healthy. I'm wondering what the take on it being  applegrove   Jul-12-06 06:56 PM   #126 
  - Oh, Not this Lie again! I heard that back in the 1950-60's...  Up2Late   Jul-11-06 02:45 AM   #22 
  - Ask the World Health Organization....  Bridget Burke   Jul-11-06 06:27 AM   #25 
  - The resistance to science is amazing on this thread.  robcon   Jul-11-06 06:52 AM   #27 
  - It's the standard reaction to data favoring circumcision  DavidD   Jul-11-06 07:45 AM   #29 
  - I feel like I'm reading a Freeper thread about global warming  Tyrone Slothrop   Jul-11-06 01:44 PM   #35 
  - I'm with you, Tyrone  stanwyck   Jul-12-06 12:27 PM   #98 
  - Nail meet head....  rinsd   Jul-12-06 05:56 PM   #118 
  - Good point, Tyrone. The two major studies currently being conducted  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 12:50 PM   #179 
  - True or not a condom will work even better.  FreeState   Jul-11-06 06:57 PM   #56 
  - What does female circumcision have to do with male circumcision?  NickB79   Jul-11-06 08:05 PM   #62 
  - I'm sure that cutting off the penis (the equiv. of female circ) would stop  merwin   Jul-12-06 07:36 PM   #129 
  - The research shows that circumcision adds protection that goes beyond  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 05:14 AM   #163 
  - so what if the study is true? Who cares, Africa is not about to start this  anotherdrew   Jul-11-06 07:02 PM   #59 
  - It already is catching on in Africa.  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 05:00 AM   #160 
  - The Resistance to Science is Amazing  RobinA   Jul-12-06 02:11 PM   #102 
  - This study is bogus  cprise   Jul-11-06 08:00 AM   #30 
  - Gee, the science says otherwise.  robcon   Jul-11-06 12:12 PM   #34 
  - Just because science shows this does not mean its the answer  FreeState   Jul-11-06 07:03 PM   #60 
  - These studies don't sample men who live with circumcision normally  cprise   Jul-11-06 09:49 PM   #71 
     - What is paternalistic about this? The impetus is coming from  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 05:17 AM   #164 
  - Africans don't have the mutant CCR5 gene, perhaps?  NickB79   Jul-11-06 02:10 PM   #39 
  - Other studies have compared men who were circumcised at  pnwmom   Jul-13-06 05:08 AM   #161 
  - I do not like circumcision, but I believe this is probably true.  David__77   Jul-11-06 10:48 AM   #33 
  - if * would get serious and spend our $$$ to fight aids  unda cova brutha   Jul-12-06 03:42 PM   #111 
  - Hmmm... The Mutilation Solution. I though tatooing HIV+ers was bad enough.  RCinBrooklyn   Jul-11-06 02:09 PM   #38 
  - Medicine & money would prevent AIDS deaths in Africa too  downstairsparts   Jul-11-06 04:22 PM   #40 
  - I don't see what the medicine and money will achieve.  robcon   Jul-11-06 04:28 PM   #42 
  - Has Europe had waves of mass circumcisions that I didn't read about?  Toucano   Jul-11-06 05:23 PM   #44 
  - Don't show them STATISTICS  cprise   Jul-11-06 09:54 PM   #72 
  - see my most post below, robcon  pitohui   Jul-11-06 06:49 PM   #54 
  - The rich have no trouble extracting the wealth and resources from Africa  downstairsparts   Jul-12-06 01:53 AM   #81 
  - The old white Pope in his red dress and slippers would agree with you  downstairsparts   Jul-12-06 01:57 AM   #82 
  - the problem with medicine  pitohui   Jul-11-06 06:46 PM   #52 
  - Getting medicine and money to the poor is somehow impossible, yet  downstairsparts   Jul-12-06 03:16 AM   #86 
     - The scalpel only has to get there one time.  drm604   Jul-12-06 09:00 AM   #92 
     - I argue against imposing male circumsion on part of the world's population  downstairsparts   Jul-12-06 12:16 PM   #97 
        - It's not a matter of whether or not I like the way you argue.  drm604   Jul-12-06 12:46 PM   #99 
           - While fighting back the maniacs armed with scalpels in this thread  downstairsparts   Jul-13-06 05:30 AM   #166 
     - have you ever been to kenya or to any part of africa?  pitohui   Jul-12-06 03:34 PM   #109 
        - thank you, pitohui  Tansy_Gold   Jul-12-06 05:09 PM   #117 
        - i agree  pitohui   Jul-13-06 09:39 PM   #199 
        - No I have not been to Kenya, but yes to other parts of Africa  downstairsparts   Jul-13-06 03:59 AM   #156 
           - how is it butchery?  pitohui   Jul-13-06 09:46 PM   #200 
  - A bit of clean water would probably be even more effective...  joshcryer   Jul-12-06 06:35 PM   #122 
     - Of course it would be more effective  downstairsparts   Jul-13-06 04:05 AM   #157 
  - Total mastectomies prevent breast cancer.  Toucano   Jul-11-06 04:53 PM   #43 
  - Yeah, seriously this is a Crap Theory.  Megahurtz   Jul-11-06 08:39 PM   #69 
  - Mastectomies and circumcision aren't the same things  LostinVA   Jul-12-06 09:41 AM   #95 
  - Is it because circumcised men are socially different? More religious  w4rma   Jul-11-06 05:34 PM   #45 
  - These are well controlled studies  AngryAmish   Jul-12-06 09:14 AM   #93 
     - Actually...  HuckleB   Jul-12-06 02:19 PM   #104 
        - What are these factors you speak of?  merwin   Jul-12-06 07:39 PM   #130 
  - The overlooked word in this article is AFRICA -  lynne   Jul-11-06 06:28 PM   #46 
  - If it didn't take cultural & religious practices into account, it's flawed  politicat   Jul-11-06 06:47 PM   #53 
  - ok who want to wade into africa and start croping foreskins?  anotherdrew   Jul-11-06 06:53 PM   #55 
  - The BlackMarket Body-Parts Dealers will jump  Megahurtz   Jul-11-06 08:36 PM   #68 
     - Yet so true:  cprise   Jul-11-06 10:10 PM   #73 
  - is that what is called a "false-positive"?  judaspriestess   Jul-11-06 10:17 PM   #74 
  - Circumcision is just stupid.  Clarkie1   Jul-12-06 01:16 AM   #80 
  - Unless one is African and want to stop HIV  AngryAmish   Jul-12-06 09:15 AM   #94 
     - No, it's still stupid.  Clarkie1   Jul-13-06 05:29 PM   #189 
  - Castration is even more effective  kamtsa   Jul-12-06 06:32 AM   #88 
  - No it can not, no evidence that Castration stops someone from having sex  happyslug   Jul-12-06 07:13 AM   #90 
  - Forget education! Forget condoms! Just chop your wee-wee!  mainegreen   Jul-12-06 10:57 AM   #96 
  - Thanks for getting it. This is a moral issue, not a clinical one.  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-13-06 02:03 AM   #150 
  - Any time I start thinking that progressives are inherently smarter  depakid   Jul-12-06 04:07 PM   #112 
  - I agree, you did drop the collective intelligence of the thread a bit  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-12-06 04:28 PM   #115 
     - Perhaps you should run some pub med searchs  depakid   Jul-12-06 04:50 PM   #116 
     - There's a science of mutilation?  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-12-06 08:08 PM   #137 
        - Emotionally loaded language  depakid   Jul-12-06 11:21 PM   #145 
        - I'm an HIV educator. What's your qualification?  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-13-06 01:58 AM   #148 
        - When the culture itself is against #2, #3, and #4, what are you left with?  merwin   Jul-13-06 03:28 AM   #153 
     - Nice use of strawmen.  joshcryer   Jul-12-06 06:25 PM   #120 
     - Thanks. I pride myself on them  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-12-06 07:56 PM   #134 
     - Uh, how is circumcision comparable to having your nose removed?  merwin   Jul-12-06 07:43 PM   #131 
        - The entire foreskin is cut off  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-12-06 07:58 PM   #136 
           - Really? I always thought it was a part of the penis, not a body part in  merwin   Jul-13-06 03:29 AM   #154 
           - It's not a full blown body part at all  LostinVA   Jul-13-06 07:22 AM   #169 
  - To end all the bickering here, it's all about HYGINE.  joshcryer   Jul-12-06 06:23 PM   #119 
  - Somehow, I don't think that will end bickering here :-)  merwin   Jul-13-06 03:30 AM   #155 
     - Hey, everyone went fairly quiet.  joshcryer   Jul-13-06 07:57 PM   #195 
  - Too many (for my taste) want to dismiss the science  robcon   Jul-12-06 06:31 PM   #121 
  - What does 10 studies all concluding the same thing prove?  merwin   Jul-12-06 07:45 PM   #132 
  - Now that's a strawman that puts my own to shame  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-12-06 08:10 PM   #138 
  - Circumcision is an easy target for the sexually dysfunctional...  Bridget Burke   Jul-13-06 10:04 AM   #174 
  - Somehow I just don't see the patriarchy joining together and deciding  superconnected   Jul-12-06 08:21 PM   #140 
  - Aren't Judaism & Islam generally considered "Patriarchal"?  Bridget Burke   Jul-13-06 10:08 AM   #175 
     - ...  superconnected   Jul-13-06 12:11 PM   #176 
  - A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL CIRCUMCISER'S WILL BE NEEDED  saigon68   Jul-12-06 08:28 PM   #141 
  - How about teaching them? Several primitive societies do it.  joshcryer   Jul-12-06 10:40 PM   #143 
     - Yeah, and maybe if we can teach them that, we can teach them to wash...  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-13-06 02:01 AM   #149 
        - With what? Some mythical fresh running water?  joshcryer   Jul-13-06 07:54 PM   #194 
           - You must already be surgically altered  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-13-06 08:10 PM   #198 
  - education and healthcare will stop millions more  IronLionZion   Jul-13-06 04:43 PM   #187 
  - This study is part of the Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy!  regnaD kciN   Jul-13-06 07:50 PM   #192 
     - ok you made me giggle EOM  pitohui   Jul-13-06 09:49 PM   #201 
 

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