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Fri May-26-06 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #49 |
| 55. So the obstacles that one must overcome, |
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are a major determining factor in the importance of one's accomplishment?
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| -(Schwarzenegger) would veto bill mandating inclusion of gays in textbooks |
Newsjock |
May-25-06 08:29 PM |
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Oh good, der Gropenfuehrer's approval rate's about to take another hit! |
KevinJ |
May-25-06 08:40 PM |
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I'm skeptical that vetoing this bill is a bad idea for him politically |
slackmaster |
May-26-06 10:18 AM |
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Well, I don't care what his "moderate" platform says |
Charlie Brown |
May-25-06 08:42 PM |
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We don't need |
gator_in_Ontario |
May-25-06 09:42 PM |
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shameful. |
rodeodance |
May-25-06 09:44 PM |
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so how many Californians are going to contact Ahnuld over this |
dwickham |
May-25-06 10:19 PM |
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Another View |
DiscussTheTruth |
May-25-06 11:06 PM |
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Sexual orientation is equal to religion? |
Bridget Burke |
May-26-06 07:59 AM |
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This is a weird issue |
TheFarseer |
May-26-06 09:43 AM |
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Working towards civil rights studies would be wiser. |
DiscussTheTruth |
May-26-06 04:43 PM |
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If their being gay is an issue to their contribution, include it |
marshall |
May-27-06 01:06 PM |
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herr boobengroper panders to the right today |
BareNakedLiberal |
May-25-06 11:23 PM |
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This probably won't be popular, but... |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 01:10 AM |
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Bingo Hughee |
sutz12 |
May-26-06 02:00 AM |
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agree |
Centered |
May-26-06 05:08 AM |
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Do you feel the same about gender or race? |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 11:21 AM |
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please expound |
shanti |
May-26-06 02:55 PM |
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Are you implying that you really believe that homosexuality is only |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 03:13 PM |
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Being a homosexual has EVERYTHING |
Centered |
May-26-06 03:45 PM |
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Your disdain is duly noted. |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 03:50 PM |
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LOL |
Centered |
May-26-06 04:02 PM |
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Wow. You just don't get it. |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 04:09 PM |
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We sort of agree |
Centered |
May-26-06 04:24 PM |
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It's a valid point |
Pigwidgeon |
May-26-06 07:18 AM |
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What about gay children? Is "gay" being a bad word ok for them too? |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 11:17 AM |
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You obviously have no clue about California's legislative process |
slackmaster |
May-26-06 10:10 AM |
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Because they were able to surmount oppression and hatred and bigotry |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 11:14 AM |
#49 |
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So the obstacles that one must overcome, |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 12:41 PM |
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The are of major importance to others who seek role models and |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 12:48 PM |
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I don't have a problems with highlighting them, |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 02:47 PM |
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A fellow (or rather bloke, since he was English) came to mind reading that |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
May-27-06 12:46 PM |
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You are joking, aren't you? |
ruggerson |
May-26-06 04:53 PM |
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Do all classroom discussion mention a person's wife? |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 05:56 PM |
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In my experience, they often do |
ruggerson |
May-26-06 06:11 PM |
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I agree about the double standard |
marshall |
May-27-06 01:19 PM |
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I'm not sure how I feel about this... |
sugapablo |
May-26-06 06:28 AM |
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In all fairness this is a dumb bill in some respects. |
Zynx |
May-26-06 06:58 AM |
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I remember learning that Alexander the Great was homosexual |
slackmaster |
May-26-06 10:17 AM |
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I don't see why it has to be brought up, though. |
Zynx |
May-26-06 10:23 AM |
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In Alexander's case I believe it was historically significant |
slackmaster |
May-26-06 10:27 AM |
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Be careful where you go with that. |
Zynx |
May-26-06 10:32 AM |
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Then the argument should lead to why his homosexuality led to what |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 10:46 AM |
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That is psychology, not history. |
Zynx |
May-26-06 10:59 AM |
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Just as there are more important issues to fight for politically... |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 11:01 AM |
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Why does the spouse of any historical figure |
ruggerson |
May-26-06 04:55 PM |
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I learned Julius Caesar was a switch-hitter |
StopThePendulum |
May-26-06 12:30 PM |
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Caligula too |
slackmaster |
May-26-06 01:20 PM |
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It's just as appropriate as studying it through a racial lense... |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 10:27 AM |
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Those are both issues with dramatic, tangible impacts on history. |
Zynx |
May-26-06 10:30 AM |
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Sexual orientation doesn't have the same sort of impact? |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 10:41 AM |
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Because sexual orientation does not drive history. |
Zynx |
May-26-06 10:54 AM |
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Why yes it does. Look at Stonewall, the holocaust... |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 10:59 AM |
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The Nazi extermination of homosexuals is talked about. |
Zynx |
May-26-06 11:06 AM |
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But individual contributions from homosexuals are rarely discussed... |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 11:10 AM |
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I need some help understanding your POV |
slackmaster |
May-26-06 03:28 PM |
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I can name several contributions of homosexuals that are discussed... |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 03:41 PM |
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Ever heard of Harvey Milk? |
libnnc |
May-26-06 11:08 AM |
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Well look on the bright side; you're less likely to see this in your ... |
noel adamson |
May-26-06 08:41 AM |
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Steroids |
sugapablo |
May-26-06 09:14 AM |
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I was referring to the hypocrisy of his political opportunism and ... |
noel adamson |
May-26-06 10:09 AM |
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Huh? |
sugapablo |
May-26-06 10:23 AM |
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article is misleading |
fig |
May-26-06 10:08 AM |
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Nobody here mentioned "indoctrination"... |
sugapablo |
May-26-06 10:12 AM |
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I study a lot of history, far more than most, and I can't think of any... |
Zynx |
May-26-06 10:25 AM |
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As a gay man: |
kgfnally |
May-27-06 01:55 PM |
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Excellent question, I'm glad you asked |
fig |
May-26-06 10:34 AM |
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OK! |
sugapablo |
May-26-06 10:41 AM |
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It's likely that we don't know of many because it is a subject that is not |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 10:36 AM |
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Yes, well said! |
fig |
May-26-06 11:02 AM |
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Exactly. |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 11:06 AM |
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Actually, we learned about A LOT of gay people in school... |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 11:33 AM |
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I'm not sure I follow |
fig |
May-26-06 01:06 PM |
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I have a few issues with this... |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 02:20 PM |
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"Should we also learn about the first gay person in outer space?" Yes. |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 03:16 PM |
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Wait a minute... |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 03:37 PM |
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The argument that you would have to remove material to discuss homosexuals |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 03:48 PM |
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Seriously |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 04:01 PM |
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Read post #44. I'm done here. |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 04:11 PM |
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Good for you... |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 04:27 PM |
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And that is exactly what I'm talking about. |
Misunderestimator |
May-27-06 01:19 PM |
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This apparently applies to you as well as others here: |
kgfnally |
May-27-06 02:02 PM |
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So by that reasoning |
ruggerson |
May-26-06 05:00 PM |
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Frankly, if a person's SO has nothing to contribute |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 05:25 PM |
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of course it has relevance |
ruggerson |
May-26-06 05:47 PM |
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In some cases it has relevance, in many others, it does not... |
hughee99 |
May-26-06 06:05 PM |
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well of course it's not relevant all the time |
ruggerson |
May-26-06 06:07 PM |
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See #90. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
May-27-06 12:52 PM |
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you can't compare |
shanti |
May-26-06 03:01 PM |
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What does hiding it have to do with anything? Does it make our lack |
Misunderestimator |
May-26-06 03:25 PM |
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I guess you never heard of "passing."............... |
Kingshakabobo |
May-26-06 05:01 PM |
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Mr. Orgy has no moral ground to stand on. |
Rex |
May-26-06 10:32 AM |
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*laughs* |
sugapablo |
May-26-06 10:39 AM |
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I know, I just love to point out the hypocrisy. |
Rex |
May-26-06 12:31 PM |
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of course , he only poses for gay magazines |
zreosumgame |
May-26-06 10:32 AM |
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Name removed |
May-26-06 10:38 AM |
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I'm all in favor of keeping gays out of textbooks! |
JackDragna |
May-26-06 03:44 PM |
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My, this thread is full of examples of the fine art... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
May-27-06 01:30 PM |
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That would include, for example, Michelangelo, Alexander the great, |
fshrink |
May-27-06 02:24 PM |
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although if you are teaching oscar wilde or tchaikovsky |
cap |
May-28-06 07:39 AM |
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Yep. One word actually defines the US at this time: |
fshrink |
May-28-06 08:56 AM |
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