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191. Nice to meet you, Dave ...
You are a rare one, honest ... a keeper and she's a lucky lady ... you chose to rise above your parents' problems, hold your head high, and live your life with dignity ... you chose to happen to life rather then let life happen to YOU ... good for you ...

If I live a thousand years I'll never understand why some people choose to be happy and loving ... some choose to repeat the abusive pattern ... I wish you were the rule rather then the exception to it ...

What do you think we need? ... Better teachers for children ... better parents obviously ... They say all it takes is one coach ... one teacher who really believes in a kid and that kid sees that light shining and follows it ...
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  -NYT/Reuters: Many US Women Abused by Men, Study Finds DeepModem Mom  May-17-06 02:45 PM   #0 
  - This is news?  gaspee   May-17-06 02:50 PM   #1 
  - It's not news. At least, not to anyone who pays attention.  ThomCat   May-17-06 02:52 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 02:53 PM   #10 
  - The News Is That In the Future, The Govt. Will Abuse 100% of Women  Demeter   May-18-06 05:43 AM   #101 
  - No kidding!  redqueen   May-18-06 11:19 AM   #135 
  - It's very believable. Look at the details  lumberjack_jeff   May-18-06 11:44 AM   #141 
     - Seems valid to me  Mandate My Ass   May-18-06 11:57 AM   #148 
  - I completely believe this. 100%.  Dora   May-17-06 02:50 PM   #2 
  - I hear you, Dora  bunyip   May-17-06 10:59 PM   #93 
  - It's a matter of self-esteem  wryter2000   May-18-06 10:20 AM   #126 
     - Quiet and shy..........  llmart   May-18-06 12:31 PM   #152 
        - I agree. That's where it's important for us to teach the difference.  Dora   May-18-06 01:09 PM   #157 
           - I agree wholeheartedly.........  llmart   May-18-06 07:24 PM   #195 
  - I totally agree with you...Man who don't need to help stop those that do.  Tight_rope   May-18-06 10:01 AM   #123 
  - Good point..Here's the basic research.  autorank   May-18-06 10:58 AM   #134 
  - I can't believe that researchers "were surprised at the numbers."  Fridays Child   May-17-06 02:50 PM   #3 
  - Gotta love those "alpha male" "bad boys."  Mythsaje   May-17-06 02:51 PM   #4 
  - Women Also Prefer These Types Of Men  OrangeCountyDemocrat   May-17-06 02:51 PM   #5 
  - I'm glad  gaspee   May-17-06 02:52 PM   #6 
  - Which orifice did that post emanate from?  Mandate My Ass   May-17-06 02:53 PM   #9 
  - I might have to climb into my asbestos suit here...  dionysus   May-17-06 09:54 PM   #78 
     - SOME women do,  raccoon   May-18-06 07:51 AM   #110 
     - Sadly, there seems to be a mutual attraction.  CrispyQGirl   May-18-06 03:36 PM   #170 
     - no asbestos needed  Mandate My Ass   May-18-06 10:16 AM   #124 
     - These words protect you from flameage:  redqueen   May-18-06 11:40 AM   #139 
     - That would only happen due to the abuse they saw their father heap  BrklynLiberal   May-18-06 03:15 PM   #168 
  - Pls don't generalize too much...  Triana   May-17-06 03:00 PM   #15 
  - There's the truth.  Fridays Child   May-17-06 04:22 PM   #40 
  - You can never tell by looks, occupation, or background  Triana   May-17-06 09:49 PM   #75 
  - Amen! Smart hippies can be violently abusive, too! n/t  redqueen   May-18-06 11:41 AM   #140 
  - "Mild-mannered guy" more likely to abuse, IMO  LeighAnn   May-17-06 03:02 PM   #16 
  - Leigh Ann, glad you can speak for all mild- mannered Men.  sarcasmo   May-17-06 03:24 PM   #24 
  - It's called the "Wally Cox Syndrome"  LeighAnn   May-18-06 02:03 AM   #99 
  - IME, mild-mannered men can be passive-aggressive. nt  raccoon   May-18-06 07:54 AM   #111 
  - You got that right -- I have some in my family  LostinVA   May-18-06 07:57 AM   #113 
  - I believe Rhett Butler took his wife against her will  wryter2000   May-18-06 10:23 AM   #128 
  - My wife would disagree with you. She likes it that I can cry at movies  Sapere aude   May-17-06 03:28 PM   #26 
  - Muscles have nothing to do with being an asshole.  tabasco   May-17-06 03:32 PM   #27 
  - Well put. thank you. eom  freeplessinseattle   May-18-06 10:45 AM   #133 
  - Not this woman  wicket   May-17-06 03:42 PM   #28 
  - pfffftttt  Maine-ah   May-17-06 03:46 PM   #29 
  - You know what?  China_cat   May-17-06 03:59 PM   #31 
  - ok, both of those generalizations are bad.  Maine-ah   May-17-06 04:40 PM   #44 
  - Live it  China_cat   May-17-06 05:18 PM   #49 
  - and don't assume some of us haven't lived it either.  Maine-ah   May-18-06 05:32 AM   #100 
  - You're right -- these generalizations are a problem here at DU  October   May-18-06 08:13 AM   #117 
  - I've known wimpy, well educated abusers. But also the reverse.  Kailassa   May-17-06 10:25 PM   #85 
  - OH.MY.GOD -- this is 2006, right?  LostinVA   May-17-06 04:09 PM   #35 
  - O.C. Democrat could talk to me if he needed educating.  bunyip   May-18-06 01:45 AM   #98 
     - And, the cops I know would say he does need educating  LostinVA   May-18-06 06:06 AM   #102 
     - How about you let them speak for themselves.  bunyip   May-18-06 11:22 PM   #209 
     - Thanks Bunyip  OrangeCountyDemocrat   May-19-06 02:27 AM   #213 
  - Oooh. Bitter much?  Book Lover   May-17-06 05:36 PM   #53 
  - Say what? I don't think so. nt  JerseygirlCT   May-17-06 07:42 PM   #61 
  - You don't speak for me  WindRavenX   May-17-06 08:04 PM   #65 
  - post deleted  Knurled99   May-17-06 08:32 PM   #67 
  - It is true in high school and college...  jerry611   May-17-06 09:39 PM   #71 
  - I wouldn't.  StellaBlue   May-17-06 09:55 PM   #79 
  - not any women i know. sheesh.  bettyellen   May-17-06 09:56 PM   #80 
  - Wrong. Emotionally insecure or immature women go for jerks  Lydia Leftcoast   May-17-06 11:29 PM   #95 
  - Women also prefer older men  treestar   May-17-06 11:39 PM   #97 
  - Not all women! I like 'em younger...and older. nt  raccoon   May-18-06 07:56 AM   #112 
  - BS  zanne   May-18-06 06:24 AM   #106 
  - Maybe some women that YOU'VE known do that.  raccoon   May-18-06 07:47 AM   #109 
  - I hate to see such a dogpile on that statement.  rucky   May-18-06 10:38 AM   #130 
  - 100% false.  redqueen   May-18-06 11:24 AM   #136 
  - Only at certain times of the month.  Tesha   May-18-06 11:31 AM   #137 
  - Guys with muscles can be nice, too!  colorado_ufo   May-18-06 11:46 AM   #142 
  - Not My Future Wife (nt)  stepnw1f   May-18-06 12:40 PM   #154 
  - Yeah, and women like to get beat up and abused and  Tansy_Gold   May-18-06 01:09 PM   #158 
  - Late to the thread, but the best post on the thread! n/t  LostinVA   May-18-06 04:16 PM   #179 
  - thanks, LostinVA! (n/t)  Tansy_Gold   May-18-06 04:50 PM   #188 
  - Excellent post,  bunyip   May-18-06 07:39 PM   #196 
  - Please don't tell us how we are. nt  Marie26   May-18-06 02:21 PM   #162 
  - women have the power to choose  darboy   May-18-06 02:27 PM   #163 
     - And abusers have the power to choose not to be shitheads  Tansy_Gold   May-18-06 03:09 PM   #166 
     - I agree with you  darboy   May-18-06 03:16 PM   #169 
        - They usually aren't helpless entering these relationships  Mandate My Ass   May-18-06 03:41 PM   #172 
        - Again, educate yourself  LostinVA   May-18-06 04:24 PM   #182 
        - I have always been told women are equal to men  darboy   May-18-06 04:35 PM   #185 
        - When I taught Domestic Violence Education  WildClarySage   May-18-06 06:45 PM   #192 
        - Well said ...  Veronica.Franco   May-18-06 06:50 PM   #193 
        - I hope too, that you will teach your sons  WildClarySage   May-18-06 06:53 PM   #194 
     - Seriously, and I do not mean this nasty at all  LostinVA   May-18-06 04:21 PM   #181 
        - there's a difference between being "nice" in general  darboy   May-18-06 04:26 PM   #183 
           - It's not a matter of "not giving a shit"  Tansy_Gold   May-18-06 05:28 PM   #190 
  - And the earth is not flat and the sky is blue, too. Good God, is there  beingthere   May-17-06 02:52 PM   #8 
  - I'm not at all shocked  Ohio Joe   May-17-06 02:53 PM   #11 
  - Well DUH...  Triana   May-17-06 02:54 PM   #12 
  - From what I know, we already have laws against this. Either they are not  Sapere aude   May-17-06 03:25 PM   #25 
     - the laws are definitely not enforced....  Triana   May-17-06 04:16 PM   #37 
     - yep, I used to work at a police department handling the domestic  superconnected   May-17-06 04:37 PM   #43 
     - That tactic actually works to some extent  gorbal   May-17-06 06:39 PM   #57 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 09:48 PM   #74 
        - Sounds like the laws have improved then...  Triana   May-17-06 10:36 PM   #88 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 10:45 PM   #91 
           - I think I'm glad I didn't see that message before it was deleted...  LostinVA   May-18-06 06:07 AM   #103 
              - Consider yourself lucky...  Triana   May-18-06 10:19 AM   #125 
     - Good post, but the problem goes further than,  raccoon   May-18-06 08:00 AM   #114 
  - Let the latest D/U Man bashing thread begin.  sarcasmo   May-17-06 02:55 PM   #13 
  - Yes this will be really good, it will probably be a couple of hundred  Sapere aude   May-17-06 03:17 PM   #19 
  - Sapre, you watch it will probably get to two hundred replies and have the  sarcasmo   May-17-06 03:22 PM   #21 
  - I'm repeating myself, but....  blondeatlast   May-17-06 06:21 PM   #56 
  - The HUGE majority of women on this board do not feel this way  LostinVA   May-17-06 04:12 PM   #36 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 10:20 PM   #84 
  - Who's lumping you in with whom?  redqueen   May-18-06 11:46 AM   #144 
  - I thought this was an abuser-bashing thread myself  Mandate My Ass   May-17-06 03:23 PM   #23 
  - Bait much? I'm well aware that most men DON'T do this stuff.  blondeatlast   May-17-06 06:19 PM   #55 
  - You're surrounded by good people & you probably don't take  autorank   May-18-06 10:36 AM   #129 
  - Please stop implying that all men bash women.  Kailassa   May-17-06 10:11 PM   #83 
  - why do you equate abusers with all men? no woman here said that  bettyellen   May-17-06 10:40 PM   #90 
  - Excuse me?  redqueen   May-18-06 11:46 AM   #143 
  - How do they define "psychological abuse?"  patcox2   May-17-06 02:56 PM   #14 
  - Psychological abuse is very well defined.  Betsy Ross   May-17-06 03:12 PM   #18 
  - I was with one of those too  Mandate My Ass   May-17-06 03:17 PM   #20 
  - The one I was married to  China_cat   May-17-06 04:07 PM   #34 
     - I'm so sorry  Mandate My Ass   May-18-06 10:21 AM   #127 
     - Dear God, I am so sorry for your suffering.  colorado_ufo   May-18-06 11:49 AM   #145 
        - The ones to be sorry for are the ones  China_cat   May-18-06 12:00 PM   #149 
           - That's right...we should still feel sorry for them...  Tight_rope   May-18-06 04:10 PM   #176 
              - My abusive ex is dead.  China_cat   May-18-06 04:15 PM   #178 
  - Did the pollsters go over all those factors with the respondents?  patcox2   May-17-06 03:56 PM   #30 
  - "Name calling"?  Tyrone Slothrop   May-17-06 04:24 PM   #41 
  - No, it's constant and  China_cat   May-17-06 05:23 PM   #50 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 09:52 PM   #76 
     - Perhaps you're being psychologically abused  Lydia Leftcoast   May-17-06 11:36 PM   #96 
  - I believe that it does  alarimer   May-18-06 07:21 AM   #108 
  - If someone I was dating EVER called me a bitch?  LostinVA   May-18-06 08:00 AM   #115 
  - You and me both, sister.  raccoon   May-18-06 08:12 AM   #116 
  - re: namecalling  DVJNU   May-18-06 12:07 PM   #150 
  - This is THE description of PARTNER ABUSE--take a look, it's great!  autorank   May-18-06 10:41 AM   #131 
     - Thank you Autorank, for shedding more light and less heat on the topic  Hekate   May-18-06 10:16 PM   #206 
        - Thanks, both of you.  bunyip   May-18-06 11:18 PM   #208 
           - Thanks bunyip and WELCOME TO DU!!!  autorank   May-19-06 02:35 AM   #214 
           - You are most welcome. And welcome to DU.  Hekate   May-19-06 03:19 AM   #215 
  - Probably like the shit my ex-wife used to do to me.  BiggJawn   May-17-06 08:34 PM   #68 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 09:53 PM   #77 
     - Damn! Musta been nasty if someboedy else busted a cap on it! n/t  BiggJawn   May-18-06 06:20 AM   #105 
     - Yep! That's it *exactly*  redqueen   May-18-06 11:54 AM   #146 
        - Yeah...  BiggJawn   May-18-06 12:27 PM   #151 
           - that is so sad...  redqueen   May-18-06 01:15 PM   #159 
              - No, what's sad is...  BiggJawn   May-18-06 03:12 PM   #167 
                 - That, too... divide and conquer, right?  redqueen   May-18-06 03:44 PM   #173 
                 - It's a problem for ALL of us.  BiggJawn   May-18-06 03:49 PM   #174 
                    - Exactly!  redqueen   May-18-06 04:21 PM   #180 
                    - Great post!  AllieB   May-18-06 08:15 PM   #198 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-06 04:31 PM   #184 
                    - You're not a man-hater.  bunyip   May-18-06 08:10 PM   #197 
                    - I'm one of those "snots".  BiggJawn   May-18-06 09:27 PM   #205 
  - I'd have to say that it is as common as white bread  notadmblnd   May-17-06 03:02 PM   #17 
  - Keep in mind that doesn't mean 40 percent of men abuse  warrens   May-17-06 03:22 PM   #22 
  - what a terrible story  northzax   May-17-06 04:03 PM   #32 
  - The death of Dominique Dunne, the actress  LostinVA   May-17-06 04:20 PM   #38 
  - Restraining orders are a very bad joke.  ThomCat   May-17-06 04:40 PM   #45 
  - Oh, they probably asked for it  LostinVA   May-17-06 04:06 PM   #33 
  - And dont forget, what really killed them was probably  Kailassa   May-17-06 10:36 PM   #89 
     - Oh yes, I agree  LostinVA   May-18-06 06:08 AM   #104 
  - from CNN April 7, 2006  upwidems   May-17-06 04:20 PM   #39 
  - Uh huh, since 4 in 10 women are abused, and 1 in 10 men are-  WildClarySage   May-17-06 05:10 PM   #47 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 07:37 PM   #58 
  - well said  WindRavenX   May-17-06 08:07 PM   #66 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-17-06 10:03 PM   #81 
  - And there are some cats that chase dogs.  raccoon   May-18-06 08:14 AM   #118 
     - heh... neat way to put it... n/t  redqueen   May-18-06 11:57 AM   #147 
  - It's a loaded question since now a days people get married later  superconnected   May-17-06 04:26 PM   #42 
  - Most of the time, domestic abuse occurs in private.  raccoon   May-18-06 08:21 AM   #120 
  - LIke the study that proves eating more calories than you expend  musiclawyer   May-17-06 04:52 PM   #46 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 10:35 PM   #87 
  - How about men abused by women?  TrogL   May-17-06 05:15 PM   #48 
  - Yes, if the tables could only be reversed and men were getting abused and  superconnected   May-17-06 05:29 PM   #52 
  - And most physically violent males are black. How about a little racism  Walt Disney   May-17-06 07:50 PM   #63 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 09:38 PM   #70 
     - right, let's not look at stats because it'll offend people!  bettyellen   May-17-06 10:45 PM   #92 
     - And most same-sex domestic violence perpetrators are women.  bunyip   May-18-06 08:15 AM   #119 
     - women are more often abused no matter the relationship? surprised?  bettyellen   May-18-06 09:50 AM   #121 
        - No, I'm not surprised at all.  bunyip   May-18-06 08:16 PM   #199 
           - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-18-06 09:18 PM   #204 
     - I've looked at stats for this in detail. Race is NOT the factor. =>CLASSI  autorank   May-18-06 10:45 AM   #132 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-06 04:15 PM   #177 
  - And yet another one!  LostinVA   May-17-06 07:38 PM   #59 
  - Because nobody cares about those pussies.  BiggJawn   May-17-06 08:36 PM   #69 
  - I would argue that almost any relationship involves psychological abuse...  JVS   May-17-06 05:26 PM   #51 
  - "Getting guff" isn't the same as being mentally tortured, raped, beaten  LostinVA   May-17-06 07:40 PM   #60 
     - Well then the question is, how much of an asshole is one allowed to be...  JVS   May-17-06 07:48 PM   #62 
        - Again, being an asshole isn't being a sociopath  LostinVA   May-17-06 08:00 PM   #64 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 09:40 PM   #72 
           - Thanks for the answer.  JVS   May-17-06 10:05 PM   #82 
  - The Screwfly Solution  bain_sidhe   May-17-06 05:59 PM   #54 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-06 09:42 PM   #73 
  - Dog Bites Man! Duh!  TankLV   May-17-06 10:32 PM   #86 
  - Breaking: NYT stuck in mid-1960s.  BlueIris   May-17-06 11:16 PM   #94 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-18-06 07:19 AM   #107 
  - And the shrinking economy, and jobs for mid-America INCREASES such abuse  zann725   May-18-06 09:51 AM   #122 
  - This is news to anyone?  sinkingfeeling   May-18-06 11:36 AM   #138 
  - It's very disappointing to see so much misogyny on this thread  AllieB   May-18-06 12:39 PM   #153 
  - Democratic forums all across this country are haunted by neo-cons  Veronica.Franco   May-18-06 12:42 PM   #155 
     - Yes They Are  stepnw1f   May-18-06 12:49 PM   #156 
     - Astro turf  AllieB   May-18-06 02:18 PM   #161 
     - Thank you ...  Veronica.Franco   May-18-06 02:47 PM   #164 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-18-06 01:21 PM   #160 
  - I think substance abuse  FooFootheSnoo   May-18-06 02:48 PM   #165 
  - Alcohol doesn't make someone into an abuser  LostinVA   May-18-06 04:36 PM   #186 
     - there is no excuse for abuse  dave29   May-18-06 04:53 PM   #189 
  - live long enough, the men will be in wheel chairs and then all bets  roguevalley   May-18-06 03:39 PM   #171 
  - The Disappearing Y ....  Veronica.Franco   May-18-06 03:59 PM   #175 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-18-06 08:38 PM   #201 
  - I hate threads like this.  dave29   May-18-06 04:44 PM   #187 
  - Nice to meet you, Dave ...  Veronica.Franco   May-18-06 05:55 PM   #191 
     - ultimately you just have to find a way to believe in yourself  dave29   May-18-06 10:48 PM   #207 
        - nicely stated ...  Veronica.Franco   May-19-06 12:07 AM   #210 
        - Please...  Triana   May-19-06 12:15 AM   #211 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-06 08:33 PM   #200 
  - Gentlemen!  bunyip   May-18-06 08:43 PM   #202 
  - Obviously you haven't read the thread thoroughly  AllieB   May-18-06 08:54 PM   #203 
     - Maybe some of the women should just LISTEN to the men on this thread,  bling bling   May-19-06 02:02 AM   #212 
  - Time for a lock  Moderator   May-19-06 03:52 AM   #216 
 

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