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| -NYT/Reuters: Many US Women Abused by Men, Study Finds |
DeepModem Mom |
May-17-06 02:45 PM |
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This is news? |
gaspee |
May-17-06 02:50 PM |
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It's not news. At least, not to anyone who pays attention. |
ThomCat |
May-17-06 02:52 PM |
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May-17-06 02:53 PM |
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The News Is That In the Future, The Govt. Will Abuse 100% of Women |
Demeter |
May-18-06 05:43 AM |
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No kidding! |
redqueen |
May-18-06 11:19 AM |
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It's very believable. Look at the details |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-18-06 11:44 AM |
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Seems valid to me |
Mandate My Ass |
May-18-06 11:57 AM |
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I completely believe this. 100%. |
Dora |
May-17-06 02:50 PM |
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I hear you, Dora |
bunyip |
May-17-06 10:59 PM |
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It's a matter of self-esteem |
wryter2000 |
May-18-06 10:20 AM |
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Quiet and shy.......... |
llmart |
May-18-06 12:31 PM |
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I agree. That's where it's important for us to teach the difference. |
Dora |
May-18-06 01:09 PM |
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I agree wholeheartedly......... |
llmart |
May-18-06 07:24 PM |
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I totally agree with you...Man who don't need to help stop those that do. |
Tight_rope |
May-18-06 10:01 AM |
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Good point..Here's the basic research. |
autorank |
May-18-06 10:58 AM |
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I can't believe that researchers "were surprised at the numbers." |
Fridays Child |
May-17-06 02:50 PM |
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Gotta love those "alpha male" "bad boys." |
Mythsaje |
May-17-06 02:51 PM |
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Women Also Prefer These Types Of Men |
OrangeCountyDemocrat |
May-17-06 02:51 PM |
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I'm glad |
gaspee |
May-17-06 02:52 PM |
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Which orifice did that post emanate from? |
Mandate My Ass |
May-17-06 02:53 PM |
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I might have to climb into my asbestos suit here... |
dionysus |
May-17-06 09:54 PM |
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SOME women do, |
raccoon |
May-18-06 07:51 AM |
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Sadly, there seems to be a mutual attraction. |
CrispyQGirl |
May-18-06 03:36 PM |
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no asbestos needed |
Mandate My Ass |
May-18-06 10:16 AM |
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These words protect you from flameage: |
redqueen |
May-18-06 11:40 AM |
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That would only happen due to the abuse they saw their father heap |
BrklynLiberal |
May-18-06 03:15 PM |
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Pls don't generalize too much... |
Triana |
May-17-06 03:00 PM |
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There's the truth. |
Fridays Child |
May-17-06 04:22 PM |
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You can never tell by looks, occupation, or background |
Triana |
May-17-06 09:49 PM |
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Amen! Smart hippies can be violently abusive, too! n/t |
redqueen |
May-18-06 11:41 AM |
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"Mild-mannered guy" more likely to abuse, IMO |
LeighAnn |
May-17-06 03:02 PM |
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Leigh Ann, glad you can speak for all mild- mannered Men. |
sarcasmo |
May-17-06 03:24 PM |
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It's called the "Wally Cox Syndrome" |
LeighAnn |
May-18-06 02:03 AM |
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IME, mild-mannered men can be passive-aggressive. nt |
raccoon |
May-18-06 07:54 AM |
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You got that right -- I have some in my family |
LostinVA |
May-18-06 07:57 AM |
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I believe Rhett Butler took his wife against her will |
wryter2000 |
May-18-06 10:23 AM |
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My wife would disagree with you. She likes it that I can cry at movies |
Sapere aude |
May-17-06 03:28 PM |
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Muscles have nothing to do with being an asshole. |
tabasco |
May-17-06 03:32 PM |
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Well put. thank you. eom |
freeplessinseattle |
May-18-06 10:45 AM |
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Not this woman |
wicket |
May-17-06 03:42 PM |
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pfffftttt |
Maine-ah |
May-17-06 03:46 PM |
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You know what? |
China_cat |
May-17-06 03:59 PM |
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ok, both of those generalizations are bad. |
Maine-ah |
May-17-06 04:40 PM |
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Live it |
China_cat |
May-17-06 05:18 PM |
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and don't assume some of us haven't lived it either. |
Maine-ah |
May-18-06 05:32 AM |
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You're right -- these generalizations are a problem here at DU |
October |
May-18-06 08:13 AM |
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I've known wimpy, well educated abusers. But also the reverse. |
Kailassa |
May-17-06 10:25 PM |
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OH.MY.GOD -- this is 2006, right? |
LostinVA |
May-17-06 04:09 PM |
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O.C. Democrat could talk to me if he needed educating. |
bunyip |
May-18-06 01:45 AM |
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And, the cops I know would say he does need educating |
LostinVA |
May-18-06 06:06 AM |
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How about you let them speak for themselves. |
bunyip |
May-18-06 11:22 PM |
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Thanks Bunyip |
OrangeCountyDemocrat |
May-19-06 02:27 AM |
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Oooh. Bitter much? |
Book Lover |
May-17-06 05:36 PM |
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Say what? I don't think so. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
May-17-06 07:42 PM |
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You don't speak for me |
WindRavenX |
May-17-06 08:04 PM |
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post deleted |
Knurled99 |
May-17-06 08:32 PM |
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It is true in high school and college... |
jerry611 |
May-17-06 09:39 PM |
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I wouldn't. |
StellaBlue |
May-17-06 09:55 PM |
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not any women i know. sheesh. |
bettyellen |
May-17-06 09:56 PM |
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Wrong. Emotionally insecure or immature women go for jerks |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-17-06 11:29 PM |
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Women also prefer older men |
treestar |
May-17-06 11:39 PM |
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Not all women! I like 'em younger...and older. nt |
raccoon |
May-18-06 07:56 AM |
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BS |
zanne |
May-18-06 06:24 AM |
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Maybe some women that YOU'VE known do that. |
raccoon |
May-18-06 07:47 AM |
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I hate to see such a dogpile on that statement. |
rucky |
May-18-06 10:38 AM |
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100% false. |
redqueen |
May-18-06 11:24 AM |
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Only at certain times of the month. |
Tesha |
May-18-06 11:31 AM |
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Guys with muscles can be nice, too! |
colorado_ufo |
May-18-06 11:46 AM |
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Not My Future Wife (nt) |
stepnw1f |
May-18-06 12:40 PM |
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Yeah, and women like to get beat up and abused and |
Tansy_Gold |
May-18-06 01:09 PM |
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Late to the thread, but the best post on the thread! n/t |
LostinVA |
May-18-06 04:16 PM |
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thanks, LostinVA! (n/t) |
Tansy_Gold |
May-18-06 04:50 PM |
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Excellent post, |
bunyip |
May-18-06 07:39 PM |
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Please don't tell us how we are. nt |
Marie26 |
May-18-06 02:21 PM |
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women have the power to choose |
darboy |
May-18-06 02:27 PM |
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And abusers have the power to choose not to be shitheads |
Tansy_Gold |
May-18-06 03:09 PM |
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I agree with you |
darboy |
May-18-06 03:16 PM |
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They usually aren't helpless entering these relationships |
Mandate My Ass |
May-18-06 03:41 PM |
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Again, educate yourself |
LostinVA |
May-18-06 04:24 PM |
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I have always been told women are equal to men |
darboy |
May-18-06 04:35 PM |
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When I taught Domestic Violence Education |
WildClarySage |
May-18-06 06:45 PM |
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Well said ... |
Veronica.Franco |
May-18-06 06:50 PM |
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I hope too, that you will teach your sons |
WildClarySage |
May-18-06 06:53 PM |
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Seriously, and I do not mean this nasty at all |
LostinVA |
May-18-06 04:21 PM |
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there's a difference between being "nice" in general |
darboy |
May-18-06 04:26 PM |
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It's not a matter of "not giving a shit" |
Tansy_Gold |
May-18-06 05:28 PM |
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And the earth is not flat and the sky is blue, too. Good God, is there |
beingthere |
May-17-06 02:52 PM |
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I'm not at all shocked |
Ohio Joe |
May-17-06 02:53 PM |
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Well DUH... |
Triana |
May-17-06 02:54 PM |
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From what I know, we already have laws against this. Either they are not |
Sapere aude |
May-17-06 03:25 PM |
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the laws are definitely not enforced.... |
Triana |
May-17-06 04:16 PM |
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yep, I used to work at a police department handling the domestic |
superconnected |
May-17-06 04:37 PM |
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That tactic actually works to some extent |
gorbal |
May-17-06 06:39 PM |
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May-17-06 09:48 PM |
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Sounds like the laws have improved then... |
Triana |
May-17-06 10:36 PM |
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May-17-06 10:45 PM |
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I think I'm glad I didn't see that message before it was deleted... |
LostinVA |
May-18-06 06:07 AM |
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Consider yourself lucky... |
Triana |
May-18-06 10:19 AM |
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Good post, but the problem goes further than, |
raccoon |
May-18-06 08:00 AM |
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Let the latest D/U Man bashing thread begin. |
sarcasmo |
May-17-06 02:55 PM |
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Yes this will be really good, it will probably be a couple of hundred |
Sapere aude |
May-17-06 03:17 PM |
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Sapre, you watch it will probably get to two hundred replies and have the |
sarcasmo |
May-17-06 03:22 PM |
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I'm repeating myself, but.... |
blondeatlast |
May-17-06 06:21 PM |
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The HUGE majority of women on this board do not feel this way |
LostinVA |
May-17-06 04:12 PM |
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May-17-06 10:20 PM |
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Who's lumping you in with whom? |
redqueen |
May-18-06 11:46 AM |
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I thought this was an abuser-bashing thread myself |
Mandate My Ass |
May-17-06 03:23 PM |
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Bait much? I'm well aware that most men DON'T do this stuff. |
blondeatlast |
May-17-06 06:19 PM |
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You're surrounded by good people & you probably don't take |
autorank |
May-18-06 10:36 AM |
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Please stop implying that all men bash women. |
Kailassa |
May-17-06 10:11 PM |
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why do you equate abusers with all men? no woman here said that |
bettyellen |
May-17-06 10:40 PM |
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Excuse me? |
redqueen |
May-18-06 11:46 AM |
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How do they define "psychological abuse?" |
patcox2 |
May-17-06 02:56 PM |
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Psychological abuse is very well defined. |
Betsy Ross |
May-17-06 03:12 PM |
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I was with one of those too |
Mandate My Ass |
May-17-06 03:17 PM |
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The one I was married to |
China_cat |
May-17-06 04:07 PM |
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I'm so sorry |
Mandate My Ass |
May-18-06 10:21 AM |
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Dear God, I am so sorry for your suffering. |
colorado_ufo |
May-18-06 11:49 AM |
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The ones to be sorry for are the ones |
China_cat |
May-18-06 12:00 PM |
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That's right...we should still feel sorry for them... |
Tight_rope |
May-18-06 04:10 PM |
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My abusive ex is dead. |
China_cat |
May-18-06 04:15 PM |
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Did the pollsters go over all those factors with the respondents? |
patcox2 |
May-17-06 03:56 PM |
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"Name calling"? |
Tyrone Slothrop |
May-17-06 04:24 PM |
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No, it's constant and |
China_cat |
May-17-06 05:23 PM |
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May-17-06 09:52 PM |
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Perhaps you're being psychologically abused |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-17-06 11:36 PM |
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I believe that it does |
alarimer |
May-18-06 07:21 AM |
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If someone I was dating EVER called me a bitch? |
LostinVA |
May-18-06 08:00 AM |
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You and me both, sister. |
raccoon |
May-18-06 08:12 AM |
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re: namecalling |
DVJNU |
May-18-06 12:07 PM |
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This is THE description of PARTNER ABUSE--take a look, it's great! |
autorank |
May-18-06 10:41 AM |
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Thank you Autorank, for shedding more light and less heat on the topic |
Hekate |
May-18-06 10:16 PM |
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Thanks, both of you. |
bunyip |
May-18-06 11:18 PM |
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Thanks bunyip and WELCOME TO DU!!! |
autorank |
May-19-06 02:35 AM |
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You are most welcome. And welcome to DU. |
Hekate |
May-19-06 03:19 AM |
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Probably like the shit my ex-wife used to do to me. |
BiggJawn |
May-17-06 08:34 PM |
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May-17-06 09:53 PM |
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Damn! Musta been nasty if someboedy else busted a cap on it! n/t |
BiggJawn |
May-18-06 06:20 AM |
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Yep! That's it *exactly* |
redqueen |
May-18-06 11:54 AM |
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Yeah... |
BiggJawn |
May-18-06 12:27 PM |
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that is so sad... |
redqueen |
May-18-06 01:15 PM |
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No, what's sad is... |
BiggJawn |
May-18-06 03:12 PM |
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That, too... divide and conquer, right? |
redqueen |
May-18-06 03:44 PM |
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It's a problem for ALL of us. |
BiggJawn |
May-18-06 03:49 PM |
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Exactly! |
redqueen |
May-18-06 04:21 PM |
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Great post! |
AllieB |
May-18-06 08:15 PM |
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May-18-06 04:31 PM |
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You're not a man-hater. |
bunyip |
May-18-06 08:10 PM |
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I'm one of those "snots". |
BiggJawn |
May-18-06 09:27 PM |
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I'd have to say that it is as common as white bread |
notadmblnd |
May-17-06 03:02 PM |
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Keep in mind that doesn't mean 40 percent of men abuse |
warrens |
May-17-06 03:22 PM |
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what a terrible story |
northzax |
May-17-06 04:03 PM |
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The death of Dominique Dunne, the actress |
LostinVA |
May-17-06 04:20 PM |
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Restraining orders are a very bad joke. |
ThomCat |
May-17-06 04:40 PM |
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Oh, they probably asked for it |
LostinVA |
May-17-06 04:06 PM |
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And dont forget, what really killed them was probably |
Kailassa |
May-17-06 10:36 PM |
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Oh yes, I agree |
LostinVA |
May-18-06 06:08 AM |
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from CNN April 7, 2006 |
upwidems |
May-17-06 04:20 PM |
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Uh huh, since 4 in 10 women are abused, and 1 in 10 men are- |
WildClarySage |
May-17-06 05:10 PM |
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May-17-06 07:37 PM |
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well said |
WindRavenX |
May-17-06 08:07 PM |
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May-17-06 10:03 PM |
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And there are some cats that chase dogs. |
raccoon |
May-18-06 08:14 AM |
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heh... neat way to put it... n/t |
redqueen |
May-18-06 11:57 AM |
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It's a loaded question since now a days people get married later |
superconnected |
May-17-06 04:26 PM |
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Most of the time, domestic abuse occurs in private. |
raccoon |
May-18-06 08:21 AM |
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LIke the study that proves eating more calories than you expend |
musiclawyer |
May-17-06 04:52 PM |
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May-17-06 10:35 PM |
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How about men abused by women? |
TrogL |
May-17-06 05:15 PM |
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Yes, if the tables could only be reversed and men were getting abused and |
superconnected |
May-17-06 05:29 PM |
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And most physically violent males are black. How about a little racism |
Walt Disney |
May-17-06 07:50 PM |
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May-17-06 09:38 PM |
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right, let's not look at stats because it'll offend people! |
bettyellen |
May-17-06 10:45 PM |
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And most same-sex domestic violence perpetrators are women. |
bunyip |
May-18-06 08:15 AM |
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women are more often abused no matter the relationship? surprised? |
bettyellen |
May-18-06 09:50 AM |
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No, I'm not surprised at all. |
bunyip |
May-18-06 08:16 PM |
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May-18-06 09:18 PM |
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I've looked at stats for this in detail. Race is NOT the factor. =>CLASSI |
autorank |
May-18-06 10:45 AM |
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May-18-06 04:15 PM |
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And yet another one! |
LostinVA |
May-17-06 07:38 PM |
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Because nobody cares about those pussies. |
BiggJawn |
May-17-06 08:36 PM |
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I would argue that almost any relationship involves psychological abuse... |
JVS |
May-17-06 05:26 PM |
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"Getting guff" isn't the same as being mentally tortured, raped, beaten |
LostinVA |
May-17-06 07:40 PM |
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Well then the question is, how much of an asshole is one allowed to be... |
JVS |
May-17-06 07:48 PM |
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Again, being an asshole isn't being a sociopath |
LostinVA |
May-17-06 08:00 PM |
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May-17-06 09:40 PM |
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Thanks for the answer. |
JVS |
May-17-06 10:05 PM |
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The Screwfly Solution |
bain_sidhe |
May-17-06 05:59 PM |
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May-17-06 09:42 PM |
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Dog Bites Man! Duh! |
TankLV |
May-17-06 10:32 PM |
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Breaking: NYT stuck in mid-1960s. |
BlueIris |
May-17-06 11:16 PM |
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May-18-06 07:19 AM |
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And the shrinking economy, and jobs for mid-America INCREASES such abuse |
zann725 |
May-18-06 09:51 AM |
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This is news to anyone? |
sinkingfeeling |
May-18-06 11:36 AM |
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It's very disappointing to see so much misogyny on this thread |
AllieB |
May-18-06 12:39 PM |
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Democratic forums all across this country are haunted by neo-cons |
Veronica.Franco |
May-18-06 12:42 PM |
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Yes They Are |
stepnw1f |
May-18-06 12:49 PM |
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Astro turf |
AllieB |
May-18-06 02:18 PM |
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Thank you ... |
Veronica.Franco |
May-18-06 02:47 PM |
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May-18-06 01:21 PM |
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I think substance abuse |
FooFootheSnoo |
May-18-06 02:48 PM |
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Alcohol doesn't make someone into an abuser |
LostinVA |
May-18-06 04:36 PM |
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there is no excuse for abuse |
dave29 |
May-18-06 04:53 PM |
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live long enough, the men will be in wheel chairs and then all bets |
roguevalley |
May-18-06 03:39 PM |
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The Disappearing Y .... |
Veronica.Franco |
May-18-06 03:59 PM |
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May-18-06 08:38 PM |
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I hate threads like this. |
dave29 |
May-18-06 04:44 PM |
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Nice to meet you, Dave ... |
Veronica.Franco |
May-18-06 05:55 PM |
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ultimately you just have to find a way to believe in yourself |
dave29 |
May-18-06 10:48 PM |
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nicely stated ... |
Veronica.Franco |
May-19-06 12:07 AM |
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Please... |
Triana |
May-19-06 12:15 AM |
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May-18-06 08:33 PM |
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Gentlemen! |
bunyip |
May-18-06 08:43 PM |
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Obviously you haven't read the thread thoroughly |
AllieB |
May-18-06 08:54 PM |
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Maybe some of the women should just LISTEN to the men on this thread, |
bling bling |
May-19-06 02:02 AM |
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Time for a lock |
Moderator |
May-19-06 03:52 AM |
#216 |