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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:15 AM
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179. It's not just Darfur in Sudan
Up until very recently Sudan was waging a brutal campaign against the mostly non-Muslim south until the rebel groups in the region forced them to a peace treaty forcing them out, and has been backing brutal insurgent groups in neighboring countries. The true numbers therefore are impossible to calculate, but could very well be over a million.

As for North Korea, more than 3 million have died in famine recently, which could've easily been prevented had the nation not continued to spend almost its entire budget on its giant military complex rather than any sort of humanitarian infrastructure. This may not classify as genocide, but it's certainly worse than the cutting of social programs which above someone argued to me was equivalent to the Holocaust. And actually, using that definition, the more precise one, Iraq is not genocide either, as it's not the systematic killing of Iraqis. All the cabal care about is setting up a government in there that let them get cheap oil and keep military bases, they don't care how many Iraqis are killed, regardless of how high or low it is. Note that you typically don't hear of the German invasion of the Soviet Union referred to as genocide, despite it killing more people than the Holocaust. While I opposed the invasion from day one, it's also important for us to not like the Freepers fall into the semantics trap such as when they argued Saddam's actions were "terrorism" (They were't, horrific as it was, under the true definition of terrorism.)

And despite all that, this is moving the goal posts quite a bit. There is a far cry from the most genocidal person alive today not brought to responsiblity for their actions, and the single most genocidal person in the history of the world, and Chavez said the latter. He'd have a much more valid point had he said the former, but he did not, and that's why his comments were ridiculous and are not helping his cause any.
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