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Tue Nov-18-03 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #41 |
| 50. What the hell does that mean? |
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Taking a little dig at one of our few good senators who barely escape murder?
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| -NTSB: Wellstone crash result of pilot error |
southpaw72 |
Nov-18-03 01:07 PM |
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Pilot error brought on by pilots being drugged? |
tom_paine |
Nov-18-03 01:11 PM |
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moral of the story: Dems, stay out of small planes. period. |
truthisfreedom |
Nov-18-03 01:12 PM |
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Pilots make errors |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 01:13 PM |
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Yep, but a the second Democratic Senator being dead |
tom_paine |
Nov-18-03 01:19 PM |
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He is the only Democratic Senator who has died in a plane crash recently |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-18-03 01:26 PM |
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Huh? |
Wednesdays |
Nov-18-03 01:30 PM |
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Sure. No Democratic Senators died than. |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-18-03 01:34 PM |
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Sorry, you are wrong. Mel Carnahan died on October 16, 2000. |
Zhade |
Nov-18-03 01:42 PM |
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He was not a Senator. He was a Governor. |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-18-03 01:51 PM |
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Yes. I edited my post a few minutes before you "corrected" me. |
Zhade |
Nov-18-03 02:11 PM |
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Ashcroft was narrowly leading before that crash |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-18-03 02:38 PM |
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Oh, but they got Wellstone's wife this time around |
tom_paine |
Nov-18-03 02:47 PM |
#40 |
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Both had children that use their father's last name |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-18-03 03:20 PM |
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Your logic is flawed. |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 02:47 PM |
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You're both full of it |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:27 PM |
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How did Republicans control the election process in MN? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-18-03 03:55 PM |
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"How did Republicans control the election process in MN?" |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 04:05 PM |
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There is currently a lawsuit being tried..... |
SaidFred |
Nov-18-03 06:28 PM |
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Mell Carnahan ring a bell? |
Code_Name_D |
Nov-18-03 02:16 PM |
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He was not a Senator |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-18-03 02:44 PM |
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Why bother? |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 01:38 PM |
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I had a pilot friend killed in a "pilot error" crash.... |
SaidFred |
Nov-18-03 06:35 PM |
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I have had at least 4 pilot friends die by their own errors in 40 years. |
karlschneider |
Nov-18-03 09:36 PM |
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I lost as friend as well |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 10:08 PM |
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BULLSHIT! |
liberalhistorian |
Nov-18-03 01:11 PM |
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You'll never believe it? |
Character Assassin |
Nov-18-03 01:57 PM |
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You mean you don't trust authority? |
info being |
Nov-18-03 02:23 PM |
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I'm with you |
knowledgeispower |
Nov-18-03 04:21 PM |
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As I predicted. I don't -like- pilot error, being a professional pilot bu |
karlschneider |
Nov-18-03 01:12 PM |
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The report discounts ice |
pa28 |
Nov-18-03 03:35 PM |
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Another thread on this.... |
realFedUp |
Nov-18-03 01:12 PM |
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Has the NTSB |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-18-03 01:15 PM |
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Yes. Many times. n/t |
karlschneider |
Nov-18-03 01:18 PM |
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Have they ever found the sabotage to be committed by Amerikans? |
tom_paine |
Nov-18-03 01:20 PM |
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Here is one. There are several on the NTSB server |
karlschneider |
Nov-18-03 01:51 PM |
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Can't argue with that. |
tom_paine |
Nov-18-03 02:49 PM |
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BP: Reichstag Fire Caused by Oily Rags |
Scott Lee |
Nov-18-03 01:18 PM |
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LOL! |
liberalhistorian |
Nov-18-03 01:19 PM |
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Sorry |
slack |
Nov-18-03 01:49 PM |
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elucidate |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 01:50 PM |
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I think BushCo killed him |
slack |
Nov-18-03 10:25 PM |
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refresh my memory... |
GloriaSmith |
Nov-18-03 01:56 PM |
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First I've heard of missing files |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 02:04 PM |
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Don't forget Senator Kennedy was supposed to be on the plane too |
knowledgeispower |
Nov-18-03 04:24 PM |
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I'm not sure that is correct.... |
higher class |
Nov-18-03 07:58 PM |
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I don't know how precise my details are, but I know this |
dflprincess |
Nov-18-03 08:12 PM |
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Here come the conspiracy theorists.... |
Abaques |
Nov-18-03 02:14 PM |
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That's what a lot of people say about coincidence theorists, too. |
Zhade |
Nov-18-03 02:18 PM |
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The whole "coincidence theorist" crap is just like... |
Abaques |
Nov-18-03 02:31 PM |
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Good conspiracy theory is based on LOGIC. |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 02:55 PM |
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You need help.... |
Abaques |
Nov-18-03 03:11 PM |
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Are you a creationist? |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 03:17 PM |
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Slow down, slow down |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:25 PM |
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Published Evidence? |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 03:34 PM |
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Show me the photographs of the WMD's |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:37 PM |
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This has turned productive... |
Abaques |
Nov-18-03 03:27 PM |
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Another fine propaganda technique. |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 03:36 PM |
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So if you don't trust the media and you don't trust the NTSB... |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:40 PM |
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Sheez |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 03:47 PM |
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My argument follows inductive reasoning |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:55 PM |
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Another Propaganda Technique |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 04:06 PM |
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Recap - my argument |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 04:40 PM |
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Facts versus Corporate Government/Media Claims |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 04:49 PM |
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So the plane crashed because.... |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 05:02 PM |
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The NTSB is the most apolitical entity in the whole government. |
karlschneider |
Nov-18-03 04:30 PM |
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"No one will ever convince me" |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 04:42 PM |
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Yeah, I guess I am! And nobody will ever convince me the earth |
karlschneider |
Nov-18-03 06:45 PM |
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So we're left with.. |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 05:51 PM |
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he's been watching too much Hannity or whoever! |
meisje |
Nov-18-03 04:22 PM |
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By the way, it's Occam's Razor.. |
smirkymonkey |
Nov-18-03 04:03 PM |
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Very nice Occam's razor site |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 04:19 PM |
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actually it's Ockham's Razor |
foo_bar |
Nov-18-03 04:50 PM |
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Yes, it was named for William of Ockham, |
smirkymonkey |
Nov-19-03 04:18 PM |
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Hey, I agree with you here. |
Zhade |
Nov-18-03 06:48 PM |
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I am in complete agreement with you there friend.... |
Abaques |
Nov-18-03 11:03 PM |
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here we go again... |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-18-03 02:36 PM |
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Yup, that thread was indeed... |
Abaques |
Nov-18-03 03:23 PM |
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a little research yourself, if you please |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-18-03 03:27 PM |
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There's no point in re-arguing it |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:34 PM |
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I think we can agree |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-18-03 03:43 PM |
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Were you one of the many who immediately said that the |
higher class |
Nov-18-03 08:55 PM |
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Yep |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 09:13 PM |
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Yeah, flying with Wellstone and almost having Kennedy board the plane |
markus |
Nov-18-03 02:20 PM |
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No, it's not plausible |
Myra |
Nov-18-03 02:45 PM |
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Perhaps Gephardt had him killed |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-18-03 03:26 PM |
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Yes, his legacy and acts of heroism will stay with me to death... |
higher class |
Nov-18-03 09:00 PM |
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Were they going to let Kennedy drive? |
demdave |
Nov-18-03 02:48 PM |
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What the hell does that mean? |
Myra |
Nov-18-03 03:16 PM |
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What did someone sabotage the steering on his car |
demdave |
Nov-18-03 03:28 PM |
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"What did someone sabotage the steering on his car" |
Myra |
Nov-19-03 05:45 PM |
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And where was the co-pilot during all this? |
knowledgeispower |
Nov-18-03 04:29 PM |
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I can see you are not a pilot. |
karlschneider |
Nov-18-03 04:34 PM |
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One person flies at a time |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 05:07 PM |
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You're exactly right and reminded me of a long ago time, I was flying |
karlschneider |
Nov-18-03 06:59 PM |
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Meme me up, Scotty..... |
unidentifiedbassplayer |
Nov-18-03 02:35 PM |
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Face it, there was no evidence of anything other than a crash |
jobycom |
Nov-18-03 02:38 PM |
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How dare you!!!!!!!!!! |
meisje |
Nov-18-03 02:50 PM |
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FBI having control of the crash scene for 8 hours could fit your scenario. |
Zhade |
Nov-19-03 03:10 AM |
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What would you rather do if you were a "conspirator?" |
jobycom |
Nov-19-03 08:16 AM |
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Interesting thought |
dflprincess |
Nov-19-03 03:33 PM |
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Co-pilot's last words to his mother |
jobycom |
Nov-19-03 08:24 PM |
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I'll NEVER accept that verdict! |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 02:40 PM |
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I'm sorry that you are deluding yourself.... |
Abaques |
Nov-18-03 03:03 PM |
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The articles I read talked about a very hard impact and an intense fire. |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 03:11 PM |
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Hmmmm. the burglary tools were kind of a giveaway |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:21 PM |
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I saw the plane too. |
Must_B_Free |
Nov-19-03 04:26 AM |
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I saw the plane too. |
Must_B_Free |
Nov-19-03 04:26 AM |
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It wasn't even necessary to read your post |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:08 PM |
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Now that I've read it |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:16 PM |
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Republican Operative or Goofy Liberal? |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 03:23 PM |
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Oh, now that's interesting. |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:31 PM |
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ooh, can I answer that? |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-18-03 03:33 PM |
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Who? |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:34 PM |
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You're a card-carrying Canadian Liberal |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-18-03 03:39 PM |
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Yep, we've probably got a few wackos |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:43 PM |
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true, but you'll note |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-18-03 03:46 PM |
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Oops, didn't see that |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:52 PM |
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Republican operatives mess with liberals' minds. Goofy liberals' |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 03:40 PM |
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"Goofy liberal"? "aren't playing with a full deck"? |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 04:16 PM |
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I see you're employing more strategies from your cheatsheet. |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 04:31 PM |
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This is getting recursive |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 04:58 PM |
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You aren't aware of corporate corruption? |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 08:43 PM |
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Corporations have always had a relationship with government |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 09:22 PM |
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If you don't think your opponents are capable of murder, |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-18-03 03:20 PM |
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AMEN! |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 03:31 PM |
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You're changing the topic |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:36 PM |
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I'M changing the topic? |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 03:42 PM |
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The original topic was... |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:51 PM |
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I see. |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 03:54 PM |
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You have to follow the thread of conversation |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:56 PM |
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Whatever your original point was, |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 04:02 PM |
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OK, identify them |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 05:10 PM |
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Who was the guy from Alaska? |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 08:46 PM |
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What amazes me is the ferocity with which people who claim to be |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 08:54 PM |
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This is your attempt at rational discourse? |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 10:02 PM |
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Humor him Jail... |
smirkymonkey |
Nov-19-03 04:38 PM |
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The Alaska thing |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 09:30 PM |
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I'm sorry, but that is just Chimpshit! |
smirkymonkey |
Nov-18-03 03:56 PM |
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Some have argued that the extraordinary similarity between the |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 04:13 PM |
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The freepers are getting in on the act |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 03:59 PM |
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The Logical Fallacies cheatsheet |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 04:17 PM |
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Thanks for sharing your cheatsheet with us. |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 04:21 PM |
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what logic? |
foo_bar |
Nov-18-03 05:10 PM |
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Extremely well put foo_bar! |
Abaques |
Nov-18-03 05:13 PM |
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Bravo |
TrogL |
Nov-18-03 05:24 PM |
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Huh? |
JailBush |
Nov-18-03 08:36 PM |
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circular arguments never die |
foo_bar |
Nov-18-03 10:49 PM |
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What I think |
jiacinto |
Nov-18-03 06:53 PM |
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The amount of skepticism this report was greeted with |
dflprincess |
Nov-18-03 06:56 PM |
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Yeah there were witnesses for a day |
DemonFighterLives |
Nov-18-03 10:44 PM |
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NTSB = COVER UP ARTISTS! |
CaptainMidnight |
Nov-18-03 11:10 PM |
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The NTSB is untainted by partisan politics. It is my sad duty to inform |
karlschneider |
Nov-18-03 11:22 PM |
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it's "moron" |
CaptainMidnight |
Nov-19-03 12:03 AM |
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I recall Carl Sagan on " Cosmos" discussing the clouds on Venus. |
tlb |
Nov-19-03 03:12 AM |
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This is a Jessica Lynch story |
Must_B_Free |
Nov-19-03 04:32 AM |
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Scientific method at its best |
TrogL |
Nov-19-03 09:16 AM |
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Good thread remains at Salon Table Talk |
Romberry |
Nov-19-03 04:40 AM |
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Where's Stick Dog? |
crissy71 |
Nov-19-03 04:18 PM |
#154 |