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Wed Apr-26-06 06:25 PM
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Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 06:27 PM by haele
You amongst all the other pretty poor on afdc or other such programs who managed to find one of the few magic easter-eggs available. It wasn't just hard work; you obviously managed to impress the right person.
I know this because even as my current position is not as good as I want it to be, over the years, as well as working hard, I've managed to impress the right people (by not having a social life and dedicating my life to work early on) along the way and have finally been very, very lucky to be employed at one of the few companies that actually gives almost half a shit about employees and one of the even fewer mid-upper level managers in my field who actually wants to be a mentor instead of just doing and/or keeping his job.
Too many of my co-workers - equally hard working, equally motivated, equally personable - are still stuck in the almost middle class blue collar arena, destined pretty much to end their lives living only on SSI and whatever military pension might be left when it's time to retire. I was lucky, and managed to maneuver, manipulate, and otherwise claw my way into a couple of the very few positions along the way that let me seem to rise above the others. Any miss-step, if I pissed anyone off, if I didn't "hide the bodies" sufficiently, and I would be back on the docks amongst the many other workers-bees who are expendable to companies and corporations, attempting to get ahead while working and taking care of my family at the same time.
After my work injury three years ago - for a while, it was very touch or go whether or not I'd have to make plans to move my family in with one set of our folks and struggle to start out on a new career path. One that, chances are, would not have included health care due to a disabled spouse. And if I were lucky enough to get a job that makes 70K a year, that still would not have been able to cover our medical costs if we would have been able to get our own insurance.
Save part of your salary - or invest as wisely as you can. Don't fritter away what you're making now with lots of toys, fun and luxuries "just because you can". Take it from me; not too far off in the future, chances are that something will come up and you'll need all your salary and savings, your "investment" just to keep going.
Haele
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| -America's rags-to-riches dream an illusion: study |
deadparrot |
Apr-26-06 05:29 PM |
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Republicans really buy into "if you work hard, you'll make it" stuff. |
MookieWilson |
Apr-26-06 05:31 PM |
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Having a wealthy family or having wealthy friends - |
haele |
Apr-26-06 05:44 PM |
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So very true |
dmr |
Apr-26-06 09:08 PM |
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My friend the tax attorney always says. "there but for the grace |
barb162 |
Apr-26-06 09:52 PM |
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'Aint THAT the Truth! n/t |
Megahurtz |
Apr-27-06 12:26 PM |
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Current White House occupant is a prime example. Dude has not |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Apr-28-06 10:22 AM |
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and they believed "Bonanza" was real |
BareNakedLiberal |
Apr-26-06 05:47 PM |
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if you work hard, you'll make it |
saigon68 |
Apr-27-06 11:51 AM |
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REPUBLICANS? Try "Americans". |
Zhade |
Apr-28-06 12:41 AM |
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Amen. |
redqueen |
Apr-28-06 03:31 PM |
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I would, but I JUST brushed my teeth. |
Zhade |
Apr-28-06 05:37 PM |
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hahahah |
redqueen |
Apr-28-06 05:53 PM |
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It also has come true for some, like my grandpa |
noonwitch |
Apr-28-06 10:27 AM |
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"so many" = 1% |
redqueen |
Apr-28-06 03:31 PM |
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But that's reaching the top 1 % |
Yupster |
May-03-06 01:48 PM |
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Yep... |
Waya |
Apr-26-06 05:31 PM |
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And once we get rid of the "Death Tax", further gut student loans, |
TexasLawyer |
Apr-26-06 05:33 PM |
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Malcolm Forbes was once asked |
Jim Warren |
Apr-28-06 10:28 AM |
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Holy cow! Does that mean that |
dotcosm |
Apr-26-06 05:33 PM |
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it means they become middle class |
pitohui |
Apr-26-06 05:38 PM |
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not even 99 out of 100 in Gates' case. he'd literally be one in 7billion. |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Apr-26-06 05:45 PM |
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Gates' dad the patent attorney helped him out immensely with |
barb162 |
Apr-26-06 09:54 PM |
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Mr. Gates Senior was also an entrepreneur with his own company |
Julius Civitatus |
Apr-27-06 09:11 AM |
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No, it means he'll stay the same |
Warpy |
Apr-26-06 05:47 PM |
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actually financial advisors sometimes steal |
pitohui |
Apr-26-06 08:21 PM |
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Yeah, one made 1/3 of an uncle's estate disappear, too. |
Warpy |
Apr-26-06 10:05 PM |
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No, because the article focuses on extremes, and |
igil |
Apr-26-06 06:44 PM |
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The problem with inheritances is |
Yupster |
May-03-06 01:50 PM |
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yes it does....and many do squander their money... |
bleedingheart |
May-03-06 02:06 PM |
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This is the fantasy the repugs sell, part of the propaganda, |
cassiepriam |
Apr-26-06 05:34 PM |
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The American Dream is essentially "no more" |
barb162 |
Apr-26-06 09:58 PM |
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That's is the stupidity, many voted dreaming they would be rich |
cassiepriam |
Apr-27-06 05:27 AM |
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Oh, but don't you know there's always the LOTTERY! |
raccoon |
Apr-27-06 11:26 AM |
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yeah, the lottery is a sucker's game |
Blue_Tires |
Apr-27-06 09:31 PM |
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When was there ever a real American Dream? |
Zhade |
Apr-28-06 12:42 AM |
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Women got the vote nationally in the early 1920s. |
amandabeech |
Apr-29-06 10:03 AM |
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I guess everyone has their own definition |
Yupster |
May-03-06 01:57 PM |
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wow what was their first clue |
pitohui |
Apr-26-06 05:35 PM |
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no shit |
leftchick |
Apr-26-06 05:38 PM |
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wealth as a result of hard work is a great bit of americana. |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Apr-26-06 05:52 PM |
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You'll never read this in corporate media, but here is absolute proof... |
newswolf56 |
Apr-26-06 05:44 PM |
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There was a study about a year ago comparing countries |
DBoon |
Apr-26-06 05:44 PM |
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As the income disparity gap increases |
Fenris |
Apr-26-06 06:00 PM |
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from what I recall... |
DBoon |
Apr-27-06 08:59 AM |
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curious what CA stands for |
toymachines |
Apr-26-06 08:37 PM |
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Canada (nm) |
Book Lover |
Apr-26-06 09:51 PM |
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Canada is my guess n/t |
AZDemDist6 |
Apr-26-06 09:52 PM |
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yes! |
DBoon |
Apr-26-06 10:33 PM |
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I think we're between Brazil and Mexico |
MisterP |
Apr-27-06 09:16 PM |
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it is still possible |
frankenforpres |
Apr-26-06 05:46 PM |
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Luck. |
haele |
Apr-26-06 06:25 PM |
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Good post by haele... |
Iowa |
Apr-26-06 10:51 PM |
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Don't I know it |
shrike |
Apr-27-06 08:53 AM |
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Great post. As you've pointed out, just being |
raccoon |
May-03-06 12:33 PM |
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What we have is the haves and the have nots |
lovuian |
Apr-26-06 05:56 PM |
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well, duh |
orangepeel68 |
Apr-26-06 06:03 PM |
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It used to be more than other countries |
AllieB |
Apr-28-06 09:13 AM |
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Hence the lotteries, |
Snow |
Apr-26-06 06:06 PM |
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That's about right. |
Jamison |
Apr-26-06 08:35 PM |
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perhaps reading financial books will show you that |
superconnected |
Apr-28-06 10:11 AM |
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"But all those Yew-ropeen countries are fuckin' COMMIES!" |
baldguy |
Apr-26-06 06:16 PM |
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It is not an illusion..many succeed... |
Finder |
Apr-26-06 06:19 PM |
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I am glad you do. |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Apr-26-06 06:41 PM |
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Agree, I would be more interested to know |
antfarm |
Apr-27-06 02:33 PM |
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That's a good point. |
Zhade |
Apr-28-06 12:43 AM |
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Believe it or not...... |
llmart |
Apr-26-06 07:20 PM |
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priced health care lately? |
pitohui |
Apr-26-06 08:14 PM |
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Nowadays, there's fewer and fewer Americans who have enough |
raccoon |
Apr-27-06 11:58 AM |
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USA's number one indicator of future wealth and success is Dad's job. |
ReadTomPaine |
Apr-26-06 08:27 PM |
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I think this is a perfectl;y good indicator because if dad's money |
barb162 |
Apr-26-06 10:02 PM |
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They have it made even if they do screw-up. |
ReadTomPaine |
Apr-26-06 10:16 PM |
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You know, I was thinking of HIM the entire time I wrote that post! |
barb162 |
Apr-26-06 10:42 PM |
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If he'd come from that sort of background, he'd be lucky not to be |
raccoon |
Apr-27-06 11:58 AM |
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DADs job? |
H3Dakota |
Apr-28-06 10:16 AM |
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Yes, the father's job is the primary indicator. |
ReadTomPaine |
Apr-28-06 11:32 AM |
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Having a dad at all |
Yupster |
May-03-06 01:54 PM |
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Well, DUH. |
leesa |
Apr-26-06 09:46 PM |
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NOW THEY TELL ME |
Blue_Tires |
Apr-26-06 10:01 PM |
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Of course, 20 out of 20 Freepers with money claim they came from |
bullwinkle428 |
Apr-26-06 10:32 PM |
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And every person in the US needs to subtract from their income |
Bitter Cup |
Apr-27-06 11:53 AM |
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It's about the opportunity |
komuckway |
Apr-26-06 11:50 PM |
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welcome to the site! |
Blue_Tires |
Apr-27-06 09:00 PM |
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Agree... |
Finder |
Apr-28-06 08:56 AM |
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It's also about the luck |
shrike |
Apr-28-06 06:53 PM |
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OH! Now they tell me! |
Up2Late |
Apr-26-06 11:58 PM |
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Welcome to Bush´s America: good for the already rich and privileged... |
Julius Civitatus |
Apr-27-06 09:02 AM |
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time for new work philosophy |
kineneb |
Apr-27-06 11:35 AM |
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Amen, brother |
Julius Civitatus |
Apr-27-06 11:57 AM |
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Figures. |
Neoma |
Apr-28-06 12:53 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-28-06 09:55 AM |
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NSS |
Solly Mack |
Apr-28-06 04:12 PM |
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I've always said that the true American Dream is to be in "DEBT"! |
Tight_rope |
Apr-28-06 04:59 PM |
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Note how the AP article goes out of its way |
depakid |
May-03-06 02:07 PM |
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And Horatio Algier |
RedStateShame |
May-03-06 02:27 PM |
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Another piece of Repug propaganda found to be false. |
cassiepriam |
May-03-06 02:45 PM |
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