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Tue Apr-18-06 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #4 |
| 6. Only the little people have to obey laws. |
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Preznits just make 'em up as they go along.
(and Congress is apparently OK with that.)
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| -Judge overturns West Palm's clinic buffer law (abortion protestors) |
The Straight Story |
Apr-18-06 12:18 PM |
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I'll take the unpopular position and agree with the judge. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:20 PM |
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So give 'em a 'free speech zone' ... |
hippiechick |
Apr-18-06 12:21 PM |
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Free speech zones are newspeak idiocy. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:25 PM |
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But they are also enforced wherever the chimperor goes. |
HereSince1628 |
Apr-18-06 12:34 PM |
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And This is How Presidential Free Speech Zones Happened in the First Place |
Crisco |
Apr-18-06 02:32 PM |
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No, I was not being satirical. |
hippiechick |
Apr-18-06 06:51 PM |
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With you 100% - place them around the block outside the view |
rkc3 |
Apr-18-06 12:40 PM |
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Wrong for us and wrong for them. nt. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:41 PM |
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You're right - but it would be interesting to hear the nutters react to |
rkc3 |
Apr-18-06 12:44 PM |
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Conversely these decisions |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:48 PM |
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That would require a group to make the connection between the two |
rkc3 |
Apr-18-06 02:36 PM |
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This ruling is MUSIC TO THE EARS OF FRED PHELPS |
saigon68 |
Apr-18-06 12:29 PM |
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So do you think the right of the people to peacefully assemble |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:31 PM |
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abolished or protected? |
saigon68 |
Apr-18-06 12:45 PM |
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Ok so I have no clue what your position is here or why you |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:50 PM |
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My apology after arguing with the "Let's Fry Phelps in the |
saigon68 |
Apr-18-06 02:41 PM |
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That would appear to make two of us. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 02:51 PM |
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Thanks |
saigon68 |
Apr-18-06 03:14 PM |
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Whoever you're replying to is on my ignore list |
IanDB1 |
Apr-18-06 03:45 PM |
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Peacefully seems to be the apt phrase here |
CornField |
Apr-18-06 04:30 PM |
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Grabbing an arm is assault. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 04:33 PM |
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Actually, that's battery |
lastliberalintexas |
Apr-18-06 04:40 PM |
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What's wrong with a prior restraint on assault and battery? |
Zenlitened |
Apr-18-06 08:22 PM |
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Yep, and in Florida, you can SHOOT someone if they are guilty |
loudsue |
Apr-19-06 05:34 AM |
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I want him to - and get good coverage - and be called "pro-family |
BR_Parkway |
Apr-18-06 12:37 PM |
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Exactly. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:40 PM |
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He's already been to my town, actually. |
dicksteele |
Apr-18-06 03:38 PM |
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The so called freedom of their speech, is intended to PROVOKE violence |
saigon68 |
Apr-19-06 05:22 AM |
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That's my take on it, |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Apr-18-06 02:26 PM |
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I'll Agree With You, BUT |
Crisco |
Apr-18-06 02:29 PM |
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I agree and have been trying to make that distinction. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 02:53 PM |
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What the heck is going on in West Palm Beach....t hat's liberal |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-06 12:20 PM |
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well, it was a federal judge |
The Straight Story |
Apr-18-06 12:23 PM |
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A federal judge appointed by Clinton |
lastliberalintexas |
Apr-18-06 02:27 PM |
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at least I ain't alone |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 03:21 PM |
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Protecting freedom of speech is important, right? nt. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:28 PM |
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Guess that doesn't bode too well for military funerals |
depakid |
Apr-18-06 12:21 PM |
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Peaceful public protest is protected speech. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:28 PM |
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Somehow I suspect |
depakid |
Apr-18-06 12:40 PM |
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Then the judge would have been wrong. nt. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:41 PM |
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That was the implication.... |
depakid |
Apr-18-06 12:45 PM |
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I see no evidence that he is anti choice. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 03:20 PM |
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I wonder how this Judge feels about Bush's free speech zones? |
William769 |
Apr-18-06 12:21 PM |
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Only the little people have to obey laws. |
bunkerbuster1 |
Apr-18-06 12:24 PM |
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Don't know about this particular judge but... |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:27 PM |
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Thanks for the link. |
William769 |
Apr-18-06 12:35 PM |
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People who have abortions are the new witches for the religionists |
VegasWolf |
Apr-18-06 12:30 PM |
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Does the first amendment have no meaning to you? |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:32 PM |
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My feelings regarding organized religion have taken a nose dive these |
VegasWolf |
Apr-18-06 12:42 PM |
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I'm fine with that. I hate them too. eom. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:47 PM |
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I Can't Stand Them Either. |
Megahurtz |
Apr-18-06 04:52 PM |
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These protestors were kept away because THEY were |
Lindacooks |
Apr-18-06 12:32 PM |
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They have a right to protest peacefully on public property. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:36 PM |
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I think the key word in your statement is "peacefully." |
Zenlitened |
Apr-18-06 04:23 PM |
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Uh, quite frankly that is nonsense. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 04:33 PM |
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Well, you use the word "nonsense" rather freely... |
Zenlitened |
Apr-18-06 04:45 PM |
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The protests are NOT peaceful. Have you ever been around one? |
Lindacooks |
Apr-18-06 07:12 PM |
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Free speech versus practical, common sense |
no_hypocrisy |
Apr-18-06 12:32 PM |
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Sorry but free speech wins. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:37 PM |
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Let me put it another way: The Supreme Court has held restrictions of |
no_hypocrisy |
Apr-18-06 12:48 PM |
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Very narrow restrictions where there is an established danger. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:51 PM |
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There are also "time, place and manner" restrictions |
CTyankee |
Apr-18-06 03:33 PM |
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Weren't these the protesters who were accosting patients entering clinics? |
Rose Siding |
Apr-18-06 12:33 PM |
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Right - that's assault. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:38 PM |
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Wonder how this'll mesh with FL's self-defense law? |
MountainLaurel |
Apr-18-06 12:42 PM |
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Fine with me. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:58 PM |
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That would almost be funny! |
lastliberalintexas |
Apr-18-06 02:34 PM |
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These laws were put in for a reason |
RadFemFL |
Apr-18-06 12:43 PM |
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"It has to do with keeping entrances clear and safe " |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:54 PM |
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Have you ever been to a women's clinic? |
RadFemFL |
Apr-18-06 01:06 PM |
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When in doubt play the sexism card. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 01:47 PM |
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Well, what about the right of white racists in the south |
CTyankee |
Apr-18-06 03:44 PM |
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Sorry Dude. |
Megahurtz |
Apr-18-06 04:11 PM |
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uh, RadFemFL, I'm male and I HAVE been such an escort... |
DarkmoonIkonoklast |
Apr-21-06 05:42 AM |
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Agreed RadFemFL!!! n/t |
Megahurtz |
Apr-18-06 04:07 PM |
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a little late addendum... |
DarkmoonIkonoklast |
Apr-21-06 05:38 AM |
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Women going to a clinic to receive medical care should not have to deal... |
Beaverhausen |
Apr-18-06 12:51 PM |
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Freedom of speech is a constitutional right. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 12:57 PM |
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The purpose of the anti-women protesters is not to express their |
Dhalgren |
Apr-18-06 01:17 PM |
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EXACTLY - it's harrassment |
Mad_Dem_X |
Apr-18-06 01:22 PM |
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It could even be argued that the way they act |
arikara |
Apr-18-06 02:01 PM |
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Speech you do not approve of does not become not speech |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 02:13 PM |
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So would you support similar restrictions on military recruitment |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 01:49 PM |
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Medical offices aren't the same as military recruitment offices |
Beaverhausen |
Apr-18-06 01:54 PM |
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Nobody's personal business is anybody else's. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 02:05 PM |
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If protesters at a recruiting office were as verbally violent to the |
Dhalgren |
Apr-18-06 02:04 PM |
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Ah so now the argument is verbal violence. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 02:10 PM |
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Why doesn't anyone talk about privacy here? |
shochet |
Apr-18-06 01:20 PM |
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Good point! n/t |
Mad_Dem_X |
Apr-18-06 01:23 PM |
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I agree. see my Post #40 |
Beaverhausen |
Apr-18-06 01:26 PM |
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You have no privacy on a public sidewalk. nt. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 01:50 PM |
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This is Bullshit, Dude! |
Megahurtz |
Apr-18-06 04:20 PM |
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Yep. And these 'protestors' have taken pictures of the women |
Lindacooks |
Apr-18-06 07:19 PM |
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I find it astounding that someone would argue that is is ok to harass |
ToeBot |
Apr-18-06 02:15 PM |
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Restraining orders? |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 02:24 PM |
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Abortion Protests are NOT Peaceful Protests. n/t |
Megahurtz |
Apr-18-06 04:23 PM |
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Really? |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 04:27 PM |
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Yup. That Simple. n/t |
Megahurtz |
Apr-18-06 04:56 PM |
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Hey buddy, go to one and find out for yourself! |
CTyankee |
Apr-19-06 06:44 PM |
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Solution: MORE FREE SPEECH |
warrens |
Apr-18-06 03:23 PM |
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Works for me. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 03:26 PM |
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There you go, a restriction on "free speech" is it not? |
CTyankee |
Apr-18-06 03:49 PM |
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You can measure noise and have a content free standard. |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 04:23 PM |
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What is "content free"? Also,you didn't respond to my post about |
CTyankee |
Apr-18-06 06:56 PM |
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Content free means |
endarkenment |
Apr-19-06 07:37 AM |
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Well, my analogy holds |
CTyankee |
Apr-19-06 04:36 PM |
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Generally, I would agree with you but |
CTyankee |
Apr-18-06 03:58 PM |
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Well, then I guess that dooms the law against protesting at funerals? n/t |
IanDB1 |
Apr-18-06 03:43 PM |
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I think the "free speech" argument collapses when burly escorts are needed |
Zenlitened |
Apr-18-06 04:11 PM |
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And once again |
endarkenment |
Apr-18-06 04:26 PM |
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Sorry, Woman's Right to Privacy Rules. |
Megahurtz |
Apr-18-06 04:36 PM |
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Here's the thing: I'd rather not become the victim of a crime. |
Zenlitened |
Apr-18-06 04:36 PM |
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Dear heart, please visit now and again, one of those |
CTyankee |
Apr-18-06 07:19 PM |
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So...we can picket their churches, burn bibles (or piss on them) on the |
Justitia |
Apr-18-06 04:38 PM |
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Actually, you can |
lastliberalintexas |
Apr-18-06 04:44 PM |
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Great news, I have all kinds of ideas for nice big posters outside church |
Justitia |
Apr-18-06 04:55 PM |
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Hahahaha!!! |
Megahurtz |
Apr-18-06 04:58 PM |
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yep, let's give them the same damn treatment n/t |
anotherdrew |
Apr-19-06 07:20 PM |
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The judge's rationale makes no sense at all |
brentspeak |
Apr-18-06 07:28 PM |
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It's still a crime for them to block access, right? |
noonwitch |
Apr-19-06 12:17 PM |
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I would think there is a general law on blocking access to any building |
The Straight Story |
Apr-19-06 12:25 PM |
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So jostling, shoving things in your face, yelling prayers & obscenities... |
Hekate |
Apr-19-06 06:53 PM |
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so I can setup protests outside their church and hassle them on sunday? |
anotherdrew |
Apr-19-06 07:19 PM |
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Another analogy |
CTyankee |
Apr-21-06 07:46 AM |
#123 |