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Fri Apr-14-06 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #87 |
| 89. Most likely, what you heard about was the agency |
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that hired her to dance at a party.
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| -Officer: Alleged Victim 'Passed-Out Drunk' (Duke dancer) |
seriousstan |
Apr-13-06 09:27 PM |
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Wow n/t |
Psephos |
Apr-13-06 09:34 PM |
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So what if they poured alcohol down her throat? It's been done before. nt |
cantstandbush |
Apr-15-06 09:30 PM |
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What is they gave her that date rape drug?? |
adigal |
Apr-16-06 06:55 PM |
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There is no telling why she passed out. I image if she was choked and |
IsItJustMe |
Apr-13-06 09:35 PM |
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I noticed a bit of inconsistency between the Kroger call and the cop |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 09:36 PM |
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Kroger clerk also described her as drunk/intoxicated. |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 10:10 PM |
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I disagree... |
Karmakaze |
Apr-14-06 05:02 AM |
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I disagree... |
hexola |
Apr-14-06 07:02 AM |
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You are assuming the cop... |
Karmakaze |
Apr-14-06 11:21 AM |
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See reply #3 |
kittykitty |
Apr-14-06 11:48 AM |
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Cops call came about 10 minutes later, after the Kroger's guard |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 08:48 PM |
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Rohypnol (roofies) can appear that way, too. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-13-06 09:36 PM |
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She apparently described her rape as her fighting the three men, breaking |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 10:12 PM |
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It's entirely likely that her assailants used condoms. There is no reason |
radwriter0555 |
Apr-13-06 11:45 PM |
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Condoms leave behind a residue. |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:46 PM |
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There is no such thing as a test for latex residue. |
radwriter0555 |
Apr-13-06 11:55 PM |
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Hello? |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 12:41 AM |
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"According to the Defense" - Key Words & not in a court of trial |
Pachamama |
Apr-14-06 05:05 AM |
#44 |
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No, it's "...some condoms can leave behind..." This is not proof |
radwriter0555 |
Apr-14-06 06:51 AM |
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He is saying that after he got DNA results back. |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 07:08 AM |
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..it was the players loudly claiming the DNA would exonerate them |
hexola |
Apr-14-06 07:55 AM |
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When police applied for court order to get DNA |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 01:36 PM |
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Depends |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 09:35 AM |
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but on one of the talking head shows, I believe rita's they someone |
okieinpain |
Apr-14-06 12:00 PM |
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I hope they did all kinds of blood tests to keep this straight. I knew |
roguevalley |
Apr-13-06 10:35 PM |
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Alleged victim. Remember that. |
rd_kent |
Apr-13-06 11:27 PM |
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Something happened- We just do not have the full story. |
rodeodance |
Apr-14-06 03:34 AM |
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I hate that. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 09:36 AM |
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You would say alleged murder victim ... |
FiveGoodMen |
Apr-14-06 01:45 PM |
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But we have a victim here. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 02:07 PM |
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The medical professional did not say she was raped. |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 02:48 PM |
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Whatever. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 08:43 PM |
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We very well MAY have a victim here |
FiveGoodMen |
Apr-14-06 04:16 PM |
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Maybe, but... |
Umbram |
Apr-16-06 10:27 AM |
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Wouldn't roofies would have shown up during the rape kit testing? |
rinsd |
Apr-14-06 11:54 AM |
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They don't always. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 08:44 PM |
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Except that, when you've been roofied, you're usually gone for days. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-06 07:47 AM |
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I'd say the Duke alumni association has hired expert help. nt. |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-13-06 09:55 PM |
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No doubt, indeed. 'Institutions' of Duke's stature, do NOT gang rape... |
zann725 |
Apr-15-06 04:37 PM |
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Just a drunk that said she was raped... :( |
wakeme2008 |
Apr-13-06 10:06 PM |
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No shit!!! |
NVMojo |
Apr-13-06 10:15 PM |
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The report at the hospital said her injuries were consistent with rape, |
radwriter0555 |
Apr-13-06 11:46 PM |
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yes, I read of that hospital report earlier. Some violence took place. |
rodeodance |
Apr-14-06 03:36 AM |
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Yes but WHEN |
wakeme2008 |
Apr-14-06 04:34 AM |
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Much of that heals quickly. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 02:09 PM |
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Much of what heals quickly? |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 02:46 PM |
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The vulvar area. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 08:45 PM |
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Even if it heals in just weeks, that gives more than enough time |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 08:53 PM |
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Good points, all. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-15-06 07:26 AM |
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If she had those, which I don't know at this point, again, no way |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 09:55 AM |
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I'm inclined to think that we don't know the whole story. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-15-06 05:53 PM |
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Apparently that group questioning her story |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 06:11 PM |
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There are many reasons for that. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-16-06 07:11 AM |
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That NOT what the SBI found |
wakeme2008 |
Apr-14-06 04:33 AM |
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Was her name Tawana Brawley? |
Dr.Phool |
Apr-13-06 10:36 PM |
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Just playing devils advocate here |
Maine-ah |
Apr-14-06 05:17 AM |
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Where did you hear that one? |
0007 |
Apr-14-06 05:29 AM |
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If she was slipped a Mickey or Rohypnol... |
targetpractice |
Apr-13-06 10:41 PM |
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How often do Roofies and Mickeys turn up in the wild...? |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:00 PM |
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Two points... |
targetpractice |
Apr-13-06 11:21 PM |
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A lot - I dunno - statistically significant... |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:32 PM |
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It happens a lot. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 09:40 AM |
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Why do you assume somebody gave or slipped her drugs? |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:43 PM |
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"If"...conditional, hypothetical... |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:51 PM |
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If she claimed she fought these three men to the point her nails |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:59 PM |
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...never clear if they were her real nails, or fake...(nt) |
hexola |
Apr-14-06 12:03 AM |
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Fake. And no DNA on them either. |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 12:03 AM |
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...with regard to the drugged aspect... |
hexola |
Apr-14-06 12:09 AM |
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not necessarily |
Maine-ah |
Apr-14-06 05:22 AM |
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Apparently she put nail polish on her nails while she was at the |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 07:33 PM |
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do you know how long it takes to do that? |
Maine-ah |
Apr-15-06 07:41 AM |
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I heard it the other way-that these nails would even fall off on |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 09:59 AM |
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depends on how well you take care of them I would guess |
Maine-ah |
Apr-15-06 10:25 AM |
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I don't know what kind of nails she had. But again, no DNA was |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 10:34 AM |
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oh, of course I would have expected to find some kind of dna |
Maine-ah |
Apr-15-06 10:50 AM |
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Sounds like Lee's Nail or something |
goclark |
Apr-17-06 08:06 PM |
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I do think that's the case. |
0007 |
Apr-15-06 07:38 AM |
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I do not expect a DA to go out and accuse people |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 10:22 AM |
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Yeah, what's up with this! I mean there's NO chance |
genie_weenie |
Apr-13-06 10:50 PM |
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Please tell me your joking! |
rd_kent |
Apr-13-06 11:29 PM |
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Most of the conversation was in the GD |
genie_weenie |
Apr-13-06 11:38 PM |
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There should be a law against trying rape cases in the press |
BattyDem |
Apr-13-06 11:19 PM |
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I agree, but I like the first amendment too. n/t |
gatlingforme |
Apr-14-06 03:01 PM |
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Would the police put an unconcious person in the drunk tank? |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:39 PM |
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I think she ended up in a hospital being examined for rape |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:42 PM |
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That was the initial call - |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:43 PM |
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I know that, but they obviously did not do it to her in the end. |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:44 PM |
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Right - but if the officer was dispatched to take someone to the tank... |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:53 PM |
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If you believe the lacrosse players, she kept passing |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:58 PM |
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Something terrible happened to this women by looks of the medical |
rodeodance |
Apr-14-06 03:45 AM |
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But when was she examined? |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 08:58 PM |
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Thank you for posting that.. I'm tired of DUers working for the defense.. |
progressivebydesign |
Apr-15-06 03:30 AM |
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Unless a doctor's report says she was drunk |
femmedem |
Apr-14-06 06:49 AM |
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Thank you. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 09:43 AM |
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Welcome to DU, & I hope your husband is okay now |
Hekate |
Apr-15-06 06:39 AM |
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So what?? That is no excuse for rape! |
MelliMel |
Apr-14-06 10:59 AM |
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You're making the assumption |
brentspeak |
Apr-14-06 11:28 AM |
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True. |
MelliMel |
Apr-14-06 11:34 AM |
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Yup. It's no more rape-ish to rape a drugged rather than a drunk woman |
Baconfoot |
Apr-14-06 11:36 AM |
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She said she fought her three attackers. How do you think she |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 01:22 PM |
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Just out of curiousity... |
DubyaSux |
Apr-14-06 11:29 AM |
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This is from the defense, not the DA. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 01:34 PM |
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And you must have not seen the DA claiming he is confident |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 01:37 PM |
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I hadn't seen that, no. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 02:08 PM |
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DNA evidence is coming from the report that was released by |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 02:46 PM |
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I'm not sure. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 08:47 PM |
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The 2% figure is bogus... |
DubyaSux |
Apr-14-06 03:23 PM |
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Sorry, not going to accept a wikipedia article for stats. |
Lars39 |
Apr-14-06 03:25 PM |
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Are you quite sure she was a prostitute? The article doesn't say that. |
oblivious |
Apr-14-06 03:25 PM |
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She was working for an escort service from what I heard. |
seriousstan |
Apr-14-06 04:36 PM |
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Most likely, what you heard about was the agency |
femmedem |
Apr-14-06 06:06 PM |
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whoever said she was a prostitute? Your argument is very biased |
gatlingforme |
Apr-14-06 03:31 PM |
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Maybe you're conflating prostitution and stripping? |
femmedem |
Apr-14-06 05:54 PM |
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This woman did one on one parties three times a week. |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 06:15 PM |
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No, that wouldn't be dancing. |
femmedem |
Apr-14-06 06:17 PM |
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So, what goes on? What kind of dancing goes on during "one on one" |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 06:26 PM |
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My computer wouldn't open the link, |
femmedem |
Apr-14-06 06:51 PM |
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Escort services are only thinly veiled prostitute services. |
seriousstan |
Apr-15-06 03:20 PM |
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That would be my guess too. |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 03:50 PM |
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Many years ago, I had a roommate who would get drunk, |
louis-t |
Apr-14-06 11:38 AM |
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Sub Judice anyone? |
Chomp |
Apr-14-06 11:41 AM |
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So what?! |
goodhue |
Apr-14-06 03:20 PM |
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It does, however, bring into question her ability to remember facts. |
seriousstan |
Apr-14-06 04:35 PM |
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Regardless, evidence ought to've been collected from her body immediately |
Hekate |
Apr-15-06 06:48 AM |
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They collected DNA evidence. And DNA evidence showed no |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 10:10 AM |
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If she was unconscious and the incident occurred, it's rape. |
ContraBass Black |
Apr-14-06 09:04 PM |
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Oh jesus christ. What she alleges is that three men drugged her |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 09:27 PM |
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There's no translation. |
ContraBass Black |
Apr-14-06 09:38 PM |
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And if aliens abducted her, that would be an alien abduction? |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 09:57 PM |
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Yes, that would be an alien abduction. |
ContraBass Black |
Apr-14-06 10:07 PM |
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The rape that was done to her when she was unconscious |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 12:10 AM |
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Amazing how fast people on DU turn on her because of DEFENSE stories.. |
progressivebydesign |
Apr-15-06 03:25 AM |
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I am surprised-so many D.U.threads where posters believe Corporate Media |
Fun Doom Mentalist |
Apr-15-06 03:47 AM |
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You know what, no one here knows what happened. It is not useful to |
yellowcanine |
Apr-15-06 04:10 AM |
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sheeple are "people" who can be herded like "sheep" |
Fun Doom Mentalist |
Apr-15-06 04:40 AM |
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I find it funny |
robcon |
Apr-15-06 07:08 AM |
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LOL! |
Fun Doom Mentalist |
Apr-16-06 01:51 AM |
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Actually I am not sure we KNOW what either the examining doctor |
yellowcanine |
Apr-15-06 04:18 AM |
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Yes, we do know what at least the cop said |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 09:52 AM |
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The 911 tape was released via FOI request by the media. n/t |
Kingshakabobo |
Apr-15-06 11:00 AM |
#129 |
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Well, obviously. |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 03:51 PM |
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How could she be attacked for nearly an hour? |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 10:04 AM |
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if these guys are innocent |
bedpanartist |
Apr-16-06 07:37 AM |
#139 |
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I disagree. No apology needed. |
robcon |
Apr-16-06 05:45 PM |
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I bet you would be singing a different tune if you were the accused. |
lizzy |
Apr-16-06 07:01 PM |
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yup, their season was cancelled, and they must travel incognito |
bedpanartist |
Apr-16-06 07:09 PM |
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Add to that, there are photos taken during the party. |
lizzy |
Apr-16-06 07:19 PM |
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You mean I would say the DA shouldn't investigate? |
robcon |
Apr-17-06 07:20 PM |
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I don't trust any of the news coming out at this point. |
superconnected |
Apr-17-06 08:27 PM |
#149 |
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