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Thu Apr-13-06 11:58 PM
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| 32. If you believe the lacrosse players, she kept passing |
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out when she arrived to the party. She also kept falling down, according to them. They also claim there are pictures of her passed out during the party, although, obviously, those pictures have not been released. But the claim is she arrived to the party in that condition.
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| -Officer: Alleged Victim 'Passed-Out Drunk' (Duke dancer) |
seriousstan |
Apr-13-06 09:27 PM |
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Wow n/t |
Psephos |
Apr-13-06 09:34 PM |
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So what if they poured alcohol down her throat? It's been done before. nt |
cantstandbush |
Apr-15-06 09:30 PM |
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What is they gave her that date rape drug?? |
adigal |
Apr-16-06 06:55 PM |
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There is no telling why she passed out. I image if she was choked and |
IsItJustMe |
Apr-13-06 09:35 PM |
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I noticed a bit of inconsistency between the Kroger call and the cop |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 09:36 PM |
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Kroger clerk also described her as drunk/intoxicated. |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 10:10 PM |
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I disagree... |
Karmakaze |
Apr-14-06 05:02 AM |
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I disagree... |
hexola |
Apr-14-06 07:02 AM |
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You are assuming the cop... |
Karmakaze |
Apr-14-06 11:21 AM |
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See reply #3 |
kittykitty |
Apr-14-06 11:48 AM |
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Cops call came about 10 minutes later, after the Kroger's guard |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 08:48 PM |
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Rohypnol (roofies) can appear that way, too. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-13-06 09:36 PM |
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She apparently described her rape as her fighting the three men, breaking |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 10:12 PM |
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It's entirely likely that her assailants used condoms. There is no reason |
radwriter0555 |
Apr-13-06 11:45 PM |
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Condoms leave behind a residue. |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:46 PM |
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There is no such thing as a test for latex residue. |
radwriter0555 |
Apr-13-06 11:55 PM |
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Hello? |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 12:41 AM |
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"According to the Defense" - Key Words & not in a court of trial |
Pachamama |
Apr-14-06 05:05 AM |
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No, it's "...some condoms can leave behind..." This is not proof |
radwriter0555 |
Apr-14-06 06:51 AM |
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He is saying that after he got DNA results back. |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 07:08 AM |
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..it was the players loudly claiming the DNA would exonerate them |
hexola |
Apr-14-06 07:55 AM |
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When police applied for court order to get DNA |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 01:36 PM |
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Depends |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 09:35 AM |
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but on one of the talking head shows, I believe rita's they someone |
okieinpain |
Apr-14-06 12:00 PM |
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I hope they did all kinds of blood tests to keep this straight. I knew |
roguevalley |
Apr-13-06 10:35 PM |
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Alleged victim. Remember that. |
rd_kent |
Apr-13-06 11:27 PM |
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Something happened- We just do not have the full story. |
rodeodance |
Apr-14-06 03:34 AM |
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I hate that. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 09:36 AM |
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You would say alleged murder victim ... |
FiveGoodMen |
Apr-14-06 01:45 PM |
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But we have a victim here. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 02:07 PM |
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The medical professional did not say she was raped. |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 02:48 PM |
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Whatever. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 08:43 PM |
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We very well MAY have a victim here |
FiveGoodMen |
Apr-14-06 04:16 PM |
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Maybe, but... |
Umbram |
Apr-16-06 10:27 AM |
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Wouldn't roofies would have shown up during the rape kit testing? |
rinsd |
Apr-14-06 11:54 AM |
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They don't always. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 08:44 PM |
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Except that, when you've been roofied, you're usually gone for days. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-06 07:47 AM |
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I'd say the Duke alumni association has hired expert help. nt. |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-13-06 09:55 PM |
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No doubt, indeed. 'Institutions' of Duke's stature, do NOT gang rape... |
zann725 |
Apr-15-06 04:37 PM |
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Just a drunk that said she was raped... :( |
wakeme2008 |
Apr-13-06 10:06 PM |
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No shit!!! |
NVMojo |
Apr-13-06 10:15 PM |
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The report at the hospital said her injuries were consistent with rape, |
radwriter0555 |
Apr-13-06 11:46 PM |
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yes, I read of that hospital report earlier. Some violence took place. |
rodeodance |
Apr-14-06 03:36 AM |
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Yes but WHEN |
wakeme2008 |
Apr-14-06 04:34 AM |
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Much of that heals quickly. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 02:09 PM |
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Much of what heals quickly? |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 02:46 PM |
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The vulvar area. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 08:45 PM |
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Even if it heals in just weeks, that gives more than enough time |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 08:53 PM |
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Good points, all. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-15-06 07:26 AM |
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If she had those, which I don't know at this point, again, no way |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 09:55 AM |
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I'm inclined to think that we don't know the whole story. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-15-06 05:53 PM |
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Apparently that group questioning her story |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 06:11 PM |
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There are many reasons for that. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-16-06 07:11 AM |
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That NOT what the SBI found |
wakeme2008 |
Apr-14-06 04:33 AM |
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Was her name Tawana Brawley? |
Dr.Phool |
Apr-13-06 10:36 PM |
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Just playing devils advocate here |
Maine-ah |
Apr-14-06 05:17 AM |
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Where did you hear that one? |
0007 |
Apr-14-06 05:29 AM |
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If she was slipped a Mickey or Rohypnol... |
targetpractice |
Apr-13-06 10:41 PM |
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How often do Roofies and Mickeys turn up in the wild...? |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:00 PM |
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Two points... |
targetpractice |
Apr-13-06 11:21 PM |
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A lot - I dunno - statistically significant... |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:32 PM |
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It happens a lot. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 09:40 AM |
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Why do you assume somebody gave or slipped her drugs? |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:43 PM |
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"If"...conditional, hypothetical... |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:51 PM |
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If she claimed she fought these three men to the point her nails |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:59 PM |
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...never clear if they were her real nails, or fake...(nt) |
hexola |
Apr-14-06 12:03 AM |
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Fake. And no DNA on them either. |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 12:03 AM |
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...with regard to the drugged aspect... |
hexola |
Apr-14-06 12:09 AM |
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not necessarily |
Maine-ah |
Apr-14-06 05:22 AM |
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Apparently she put nail polish on her nails while she was at the |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 07:33 PM |
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do you know how long it takes to do that? |
Maine-ah |
Apr-15-06 07:41 AM |
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I heard it the other way-that these nails would even fall off on |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 09:59 AM |
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depends on how well you take care of them I would guess |
Maine-ah |
Apr-15-06 10:25 AM |
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I don't know what kind of nails she had. But again, no DNA was |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 10:34 AM |
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oh, of course I would have expected to find some kind of dna |
Maine-ah |
Apr-15-06 10:50 AM |
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Sounds like Lee's Nail or something |
goclark |
Apr-17-06 08:06 PM |
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I do think that's the case. |
0007 |
Apr-15-06 07:38 AM |
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I do not expect a DA to go out and accuse people |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 10:22 AM |
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Yeah, what's up with this! I mean there's NO chance |
genie_weenie |
Apr-13-06 10:50 PM |
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Please tell me your joking! |
rd_kent |
Apr-13-06 11:29 PM |
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Most of the conversation was in the GD |
genie_weenie |
Apr-13-06 11:38 PM |
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There should be a law against trying rape cases in the press |
BattyDem |
Apr-13-06 11:19 PM |
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I agree, but I like the first amendment too. n/t |
gatlingforme |
Apr-14-06 03:01 PM |
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Would the police put an unconcious person in the drunk tank? |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:39 PM |
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I think she ended up in a hospital being examined for rape |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:42 PM |
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That was the initial call - |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:43 PM |
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I know that, but they obviously did not do it to her in the end. |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:44 PM |
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Right - but if the officer was dispatched to take someone to the tank... |
hexola |
Apr-13-06 11:53 PM |
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If you believe the lacrosse players, she kept passing |
lizzy |
Apr-13-06 11:58 PM |
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Something terrible happened to this women by looks of the medical |
rodeodance |
Apr-14-06 03:45 AM |
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But when was she examined? |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 08:58 PM |
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Thank you for posting that.. I'm tired of DUers working for the defense.. |
progressivebydesign |
Apr-15-06 03:30 AM |
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Unless a doctor's report says she was drunk |
femmedem |
Apr-14-06 06:49 AM |
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Thank you. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 09:43 AM |
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Welcome to DU, & I hope your husband is okay now |
Hekate |
Apr-15-06 06:39 AM |
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So what?? That is no excuse for rape! |
MelliMel |
Apr-14-06 10:59 AM |
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You're making the assumption |
brentspeak |
Apr-14-06 11:28 AM |
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True. |
MelliMel |
Apr-14-06 11:34 AM |
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Yup. It's no more rape-ish to rape a drugged rather than a drunk woman |
Baconfoot |
Apr-14-06 11:36 AM |
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She said she fought her three attackers. How do you think she |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 01:22 PM |
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Just out of curiousity... |
DubyaSux |
Apr-14-06 11:29 AM |
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This is from the defense, not the DA. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 01:34 PM |
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And you must have not seen the DA claiming he is confident |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 01:37 PM |
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I hadn't seen that, no. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 02:08 PM |
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DNA evidence is coming from the report that was released by |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 02:46 PM |
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I'm not sure. |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-06 08:47 PM |
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The 2% figure is bogus... |
DubyaSux |
Apr-14-06 03:23 PM |
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Sorry, not going to accept a wikipedia article for stats. |
Lars39 |
Apr-14-06 03:25 PM |
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Are you quite sure she was a prostitute? The article doesn't say that. |
oblivious |
Apr-14-06 03:25 PM |
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She was working for an escort service from what I heard. |
seriousstan |
Apr-14-06 04:36 PM |
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Most likely, what you heard about was the agency |
femmedem |
Apr-14-06 06:06 PM |
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whoever said she was a prostitute? Your argument is very biased |
gatlingforme |
Apr-14-06 03:31 PM |
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Maybe you're conflating prostitution and stripping? |
femmedem |
Apr-14-06 05:54 PM |
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This woman did one on one parties three times a week. |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 06:15 PM |
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No, that wouldn't be dancing. |
femmedem |
Apr-14-06 06:17 PM |
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So, what goes on? What kind of dancing goes on during "one on one" |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 06:26 PM |
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My computer wouldn't open the link, |
femmedem |
Apr-14-06 06:51 PM |
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Escort services are only thinly veiled prostitute services. |
seriousstan |
Apr-15-06 03:20 PM |
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That would be my guess too. |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 03:50 PM |
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Many years ago, I had a roommate who would get drunk, |
louis-t |
Apr-14-06 11:38 AM |
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Sub Judice anyone? |
Chomp |
Apr-14-06 11:41 AM |
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So what?! |
goodhue |
Apr-14-06 03:20 PM |
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It does, however, bring into question her ability to remember facts. |
seriousstan |
Apr-14-06 04:35 PM |
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Regardless, evidence ought to've been collected from her body immediately |
Hekate |
Apr-15-06 06:48 AM |
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They collected DNA evidence. And DNA evidence showed no |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 10:10 AM |
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If she was unconscious and the incident occurred, it's rape. |
ContraBass Black |
Apr-14-06 09:04 PM |
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Oh jesus christ. What she alleges is that three men drugged her |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 09:27 PM |
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There's no translation. |
ContraBass Black |
Apr-14-06 09:38 PM |
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And if aliens abducted her, that would be an alien abduction? |
lizzy |
Apr-14-06 09:57 PM |
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Yes, that would be an alien abduction. |
ContraBass Black |
Apr-14-06 10:07 PM |
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The rape that was done to her when she was unconscious |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 12:10 AM |
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Amazing how fast people on DU turn on her because of DEFENSE stories.. |
progressivebydesign |
Apr-15-06 03:25 AM |
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I am surprised-so many D.U.threads where posters believe Corporate Media |
Fun Doom Mentalist |
Apr-15-06 03:47 AM |
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You know what, no one here knows what happened. It is not useful to |
yellowcanine |
Apr-15-06 04:10 AM |
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sheeple are "people" who can be herded like "sheep" |
Fun Doom Mentalist |
Apr-15-06 04:40 AM |
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I find it funny |
robcon |
Apr-15-06 07:08 AM |
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LOL! |
Fun Doom Mentalist |
Apr-16-06 01:51 AM |
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Actually I am not sure we KNOW what either the examining doctor |
yellowcanine |
Apr-15-06 04:18 AM |
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Yes, we do know what at least the cop said |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 09:52 AM |
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The 911 tape was released via FOI request by the media. n/t |
Kingshakabobo |
Apr-15-06 11:00 AM |
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Well, obviously. |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 03:51 PM |
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How could she be attacked for nearly an hour? |
lizzy |
Apr-15-06 10:04 AM |
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if these guys are innocent |
bedpanartist |
Apr-16-06 07:37 AM |
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I disagree. No apology needed. |
robcon |
Apr-16-06 05:45 PM |
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I bet you would be singing a different tune if you were the accused. |
lizzy |
Apr-16-06 07:01 PM |
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yup, their season was cancelled, and they must travel incognito |
bedpanartist |
Apr-16-06 07:09 PM |
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Add to that, there are photos taken during the party. |
lizzy |
Apr-16-06 07:19 PM |
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You mean I would say the DA shouldn't investigate? |
robcon |
Apr-17-06 07:20 PM |
#147 |
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I don't trust any of the news coming out at this point. |
superconnected |
Apr-17-06 08:27 PM |
#149 |
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